Where's "Kid #5?"

[tikiman572]

So I got to thinking again. We know from what the game has showed us through actual gameplay and the death mini-games that, so far, a total of six children are dead. The first child, dubbed the Crying Child, was killed at the original Fredbear's Family Diner and is presumably also the Marionette. Now, after that, at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, we have five more murders happen. From the death mini-games, we see that the Marionette gives life to four of the deceased, who go on to haunt Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy.

So where's Kid #5?

Could Kid #5 be Golden Freddy? Could he be something else altogether that we haven't seen? Or perhaps a story mix-up? I'm geuinely curious and want to know if anyone else has had this thought and what they think about the subject.

[tikiman572]

Kinda surprised no one else has thought of this, apparently...

[-⁧ ⁧jonas?]

Maybe you ARE kid #5, and these are your nightmares...

[oshmoo]

Originally posted by Jediwolf (ジェダイウルフ):

Maybe you ARE kid #5, and these are your nightmares...

[tikiman572]

That would be an interesting twist to find out that the events of the games are just the dreams of a terrified child spirit unable to cope with his death. It'd have to be done in such a way so that we wouldn't have a Mass Effect 3 Ending Fiasco though. Because, well... Mass Effect 3 Ending Fiasco. Enough said.

[tikiman572]

That's definitely a possibility, Hat, and one I'm definitely not going to dismiss. My personal belief is that Golden Freddy is the spirit of the original killer, i.e. the Purple Man, who was killed or otherwise had his spirit abducted after being taken into custody (remember, it is heavily implied that the original Dayshift guard is the killer of the five children and that he MAY also be the Purple Man) by the authorities and is now under the complete control of the Marionette, who uses Golden Freddy to otherwise keep the other spirits in line. Of course, that's my own personal theory and I could be wrong. We just don't know enough yet and can only theorize at this point.

As for my personal belief as to where the spirit of the fifth kid might be? I'd like to say I have a theory but in all honesty I don't. I genuinely have no information to go on to even draw up a conclusion I am satisfied with at the moment. Probably the closest thing to a possible answer to the 5th child's whereabouts at the moment is that he IS Golden Freddy, as you said.

[OneManPosse]

What about Balloon Boy?

[Sheriff Tickle-Tits]

I have a rather interesting idea about the 5th child, actually. The Marionette gave life to four of the children that were killed after he was...but maybe the 5th child was the child that had excluded the Marionette from their birthday party and caused him to get killed in the first place, so the Marionette decided not to give them life?

[Sheriff Tickle-Tits]

And now that I think about that, expanding upon that, Foxy is really screwed up and doesn't necessarily obey all of the Marionette's orders. Maybe the 5th child's spirit still hangs around the restaurant, but can't possess anything on its own, instead trying to convince the other animatronics that the Marionette shouldn't be in charge? If Foxy is being torn in half by the Marionette and the 5th child, it would explain his erratic behavior and ability to see through the Freddy Mask, and it might explain why Freddy is under suspicion in the post-night cutscenes...the 5th child might be trying to wrest control of Freddy next.

[tikiman572]

Now that you mention it, U, you got me to think that perhaps the Mangle is another one of Scott's hidden messages about stuff that is happening in the game. Recall that the Mangle has two heads; could this be a hidden message pointing that Foxy has not one but two spirits inhabiting him? It'd explain where Kid #5 is as well as explain Foxy's erratic and crazed behavior; he's got two children in the pilot's seat! Two scared, confused, hurt children. That's a recipe for madness right there.

[tloyc2017]

A fifth child shows up for about two frames before the Golden Freddy jumpscare at the end of the GIVE LIFE minigame.

So.. yeah.

[tikiman572]

I honestly didn't see a fifth child during that particular mini-game. I'll have to double check it myself but if that is the case, that definitely gives some credence towards the fifth child being Golden Freddy theory. Of course, if that is the case, why is the fifth child Golden Freddy of all things? Why would they possess (or otherwise take on the form) of the exact image that killed them? Is the fifth child, supposing they are Golden Freddy, something special screwed up? So many questions...

[The Bees]

And Golden Freddy appears less animated than the others because its skeleton was removed. So it's just a haunted suit.

Although one thing I'm confused about. If there are only 5 ghosts, then why does everything attack you? Is the marionette controlling some of them?

Also I'm not 100% on Golden Freddy being one of them. I really think the marionette was the first kid and that he put the remaining 4 in the original characters.

[CorvusNoise]

Would it be out of place to tell u all a easter egg I found?
I was playing Custom night when I look under my desk and there is a face starring back at me :O It looked like the BB but I thought it was just a joke of a beanie that the creator put in (I won all the beanies by beating those challenges such as the cupcake challenge and that stuff) I check my camera and turn it off, HE WAS GONE :O I sware this is true, I was just playing it now, I was doing Custom Night all animatronics off exept Golden Freddy who was on Twenty,
please check out my discussion on the game please for more info :)

[tikiman572]

From what I can tell about the other Animatronics attacking you even though they aren't haunted, Zanuka, is that prior to the actual hauntings, the Animatronics were suffering from severe malfunctions, likely caused by the Marionette tampering with them. My guess is that it was trying to get them to turn against adults (remember, the Animatronics had no problem with children whatsoever) but being that they were machines, they could be fooled by adults into not harming them (i.e. the Freddy mask). The Marionette giving life to the deceased children in the form of the Animatronics could thus be seen as a blessing in disguise, then, and not as an outright act of kindness, because with the Animatronics now showing signs of sentience, the Freddy Mask would be useless.

Of course, one has to wonder, if the hauntings began partway into FNaF 2, why didn't the Freddy Mask become useless partway through if the old Animatronics were now being haunted? My only guess is that it took time for the child spirits to "wake up" if you will from the shock of being killed. In fiction, it is a common trope for the spirits of the recently deceased to not be fully aware of their current situation and that, during that time, they'd be confused, sluggish, or otherwise inactive. Once "awake" though? Well, now we got ourselves a genuine haunting.

One more thing, could I get a link to that Reddit about FNaF 2, specifically about the fifth child and Golden Freddy? Thank you.

[The Bees]

Well said, although I believe the hauntings began before the start of the game and that there was never actually any legitimate mechanical malfunction. I do agree that the consciousness of the angry spirits is probably limited, though, or they wouldn't wander around aimlessly the way they usually do.

One thing I'm wondering about is if all of the characters really do move around all at once, or if it's limited to 5 at a time (ignoring Custom Night which is a sandbox mode), because that would explain a lot (ie that the marionette shuffles the spiritual energy of the ghosts around).