[ Theory ] Jeremy Becomes Freddy [SPOILERS]

[IceWolf]

Okay, so this does contain spoilers , and I apologize in advance for yet another 'theory' post. I'm not trying to start a revolution or anything, this is more a collection of my thoughts and suspicions. I'm going to provide as much evidence as I can, and I will plainly point out areas where my theory has holes in it (OR at least the places where there is unexplained information)

Lets commence!

The game-play in FNAF 2 revolves around winding the music box, checking the hallway and duct lights (Checking the camera areas is almost entirely optional) and using your mask and light to prevent your death. The mask is a Freddy Fazbear head. This is basically the game-play flow in a nutshell. The events of the game are where the real importance of the theory is formed.

So first off, there is a lot of speculation that FNAF 2 is actually a prequel to FNAF 1. You play as Jeremy Fitzgerald, and the game seems to conclude on 11-12-1987. The phone guy (Voiced by Scott himself) tells Jeremy the following on Night 6.

"Hello? Hello...uh...what on earth are you doing there, uh didn’t you get the memo, uh, the place is closed down, uh, at least for a while. Someone used one of the suits. We had a spare in the back, a yellow one, the one used in...now none of them are acting right. Listen j-just finish your shift it’s safer than trying to leave in the middle of the night. Uh we have one more event scheduled for tomorrow, a birthday. You’ll be on day shift wear your uniform, stay close to the animatronics, make sure they don’t hurt anyone okay, uh for now just make it through the night, uh when the place eventually opens again I’ll probably take the night shift myself. Okay, good night and good luck."

Keep this information in mind, it'll come up later.

So our game starts off with us as Freddy Fazbear looking from left to right on the stage in present day. Through the eyes of Freddy we can look at the party room, Bonnie on our right, and Chica on our left. They're looking ahead, everything is fine. After glancing about, the screen fizzles and you see an error and we get to the main menu.

You're playing as Jeremy and doing your thing, and eventually after a few nights our next cutscene plays where we are once again playing Freddy. Now the animatronics are looking at you. The cutscene ends with the same screen frazzling and "ITS ME" in the upper left hand corner.

After more of that crazy game-play, there is yet another scene where you play as Freddy, more spoopy looks from Bonnie and Chica, and yet another freakout and ending. Cool, awesome, whatever. (At least i THINK there are three times like this, Don't quote me on that.)

Now night six rolls around. Phone Guy wants to make SURE you STAY CLOSE TO THE ANIMATRONICS and MAKE SURE THEY DON'T HURT ANYONE.

Then of course you get your 7th night with all those great custom features and you see the restaurant closes down to reopen later even if it has to be smaller.

My theory seems kinda weak at this point, right? Yes a big point of the game is wearing a freddy mask to prevent yourself from dying. But through dying ... that's actually where the theory comes to life.

When you die, your game over screen is Jeremy through the perspective of Freddy, staring at Freddy. Now ... Yeah a lot of people may think "Oh you just got tossed in the back and you're now staring at another Freddy Fazbear suit. But based on the angle you're seeing that suit from, it is very easy to assume that you're actually looking at a mirror. That's not another Freddy. That is a reflection, that is you.

Now when you die, there is a chance that you get to play through one of a few mini-games. These mini-games involve Freddy doing a variety of things, like trying to catch the marionette, only to stumble on a dead body, or trying to serve cake to kids. or the Marionette 'giving life' to bodies. The background audio for these scenes is usually a medley of 'save' -something- "S-A-V-E-T-H-E-M " for example.

For the most part, You are playing Freddy. And you are trying to keep kids happy or safe somehow.

So now we're at the point where I make round up my full theory with my speculation of who Jeremy is. Jeremy Fitzgerald is a night watchman who, after his tour in Freddy's is killed by the marionette and becomes the first soul inside Freddy Fasbear. Furthermore, you are not actually playing these events. You are reliving a series of error-based flashbacks as Freddy during the FNAF 1 time period. Hence the "Its Me" on those errors. "Its Me" is referring to Freddy basically saying "That was me. I was this man once" and then erroring out back to his usual scan mode.

The death cutscenes are actually playing out more memories from the perspective of a robot, showing how Jeremy did in fact fail to keep those kids safe on his following day shift at that party.

Obviously this isn't a water tight theory, but It's pretty solid, from what information i've been able to put together so far.

UPDATE 11-12-2014
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So after following Markiplier's playthrough , I got to see the Freddy cutscene for going into the fifth night, and it's actually sparked a fair bit of thought. In this cutscene, you're looking from side to side, but the Marionette is looming right in your face, preventing you from seeming much more than its eyes and smile as it loosely tracks Freddy's head movement.

Just seeing that really gave an extra bit of weight to the thought that Jeremy is killed by the Marionette, and he winds up becoming Freddy. There's just something about a core feature of the game being avoiding death from the Marionette, only to wind up with it looming in Freddy's face. Almost like a sort of twisted "You're mine, you'll always be mine" sort of vibe.

Then there are the minigames. Seeing them all play out and being able to rewind youtube footage and really analyze has been a huge help. Even if Jeremy turns out not to be the soul in Freddy, It IS pretty clear that this Marionette has been pulling the strings and causing a majority of the events in the game.

I REALLY Hope that the next FNAF game actually lets you participate in the narritive beyond just being parked at a desk trying not to ♥♥♥♥ your pants. Actually being able to engage in conflict with the dark forces at work would make for some pretty fun gameplay.

[THE MELLO FAE]

Originally posted by IceWolf:

Originally posted by HawlSera:

That's... that's amazing!

Thank you kindly, I just have to do more research on things. But it seems pretty solid.

Genius GOOD SIR!!!
The arcade mode may be to tell the future of jeremy considereing he says in grumbled words Save them! while there is blood and corpses everywhere!

[shmumbler]

Originally posted by HawlSera:

I don't think Jeremy is the bite victim. There's litearlly nothing that hints at that.

There is some stuff. The paycheck states that it was issued in November of 1987, and there was no reference to the Bite in the game (only a reference to the Golden Freddy suit and being used by someone, which is likely referencing the kidnappings). Since we know Freddy's gets shut down almost immediately following Night 6, this means the Bite has a very narrow timespan in which it can occur. In this timespan, Jeremy gets moved to the dayshift to oversee a party with orders to stay close to the animatronics and make sure they don't hurt anybody. Now, since Phone Guy said that the Animatronics act fine around children, and Phone Guy (in FNAF1) also never stated that the bite victim was a child, it's not a big leap to conclude that the bite victim was an adult, most likely being the one closest to them at all times (Jeremy). It's not definitive or foolproof in any way, but that's my interpretation.

Also, don't get me wrong about OP's theory. I think he very well could be right. The "flaw" that I found is something that could be explained away in several ways. For instance, the Foxy minigame may not be directly connected to the other games, but rather indirectly connected via the overarching "haunting" story.

[Snew]

guys when you beat night 7 on the termination slip its someone elses name, saying "really first day on the job"? that means this theory seems right at least to me

[IceWolf]

Originally posted by silentmumbler:

I do see some flaws in your reasoning. For instance, in one of the minigames, you actually play as Foxy running from Pirate Cove to surprise the kids, only to find the five children dead with the masked man standing in Pirate Cove. This kind of hurts your idea that the minigames show us hints to Jeremy's fate, as that scene in particular doesn't relate to your theory.

That said, you have a good theory, and while I disagree with it (my opinion is that Jeremy is the Bite's victim), I think it's a really cool interpretation,especially relating the "S-A-V-E-T-H-E-M" from the Freddy games to Jeremy's roll in protecting the children during the dayshift following Night 6. That's some solid stuff.

I Didn't say that the Minigames were Jeremy's fate, though. I mean, they could easily be things he's seen, really. And it's feasible that Freddy saw Foxy do things. Any sort of memory could be a systematic glitch, given that part of my theory is that Freddy is reliving memories in general.

Thanks for pointing that out though, I honestly never GOT that scene.

[Kurf]

Originally posted by djlee02:

I don't think your looking into a mirror. The eyes are to big, theres no eyelids, and theres little things on the bottom of the eyes holding them up.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141111102133/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/1/18/FNAF2GameOverScreen.png
The noses are in perfect place to be reflected. The eyes are actually spaced back the same length as your view and the reflected images view. Also, who's to say those aren't YOUR eyes? You can see two bars holding the eyes up in a cup shaped eye holder. Maybe you have nerves connected in those bars? They look pretty spaced. Going by the Night 5 reference to Yogi's book, it's very possible Jeremy is dead but in a way re-animated via sentient life force in oxygen and metal. So maybe it's not Jeremy himself but the mind and soul of Jeremy?

[shaw42]

my guess is your right that this might be showing the dream of freddy when he was a man but the thing that make wonder is that there is a freddy before you and not talking about the toy looking one but a old freddy.

[Kurf]

Originally posted by shaw42:

my guess is your right that this might be showing the dream of freddy when he was a man but the thing that make wonder is that there is a freddy before you and not talking about the toy looking one but a old freddy.

There might be three Freddy's. Maybe Old Freddy hated being the bearer of the Fazbear name? There are no spare suits to stuff you in so the Old ones probably leave to go find one and leave you unconscious, same with the new ones. So maybe Freddy is replacing himself with you? Somebody who neglects the animatronics their respect (as mentioned in the first game)? A lesson?

[Kurppa]

I believe the connected connection to criminal database plays a big role with the bite insident. Did a tronic bite the kidnapper?

[Kurf]

Originally posted by TheFoxMaker:

I believe the connected connection to criminal database plays a big role with the bite insident. Did a tronic bite the kidnapper?

Theres no way for the database to play in to that since the killer was not convicted nor had a warrant. But you are right it is likely a tronic bit him. Notice Golden Freddy, how his left ear is missing and his eye has circuits hanging out? That looks like a bite. A human skull can take around 400-500kg of pressure and the suit will take around 10kg of pressure, this will explain why the biters jaw would suffer damage. Still pointing to Foxy at this point because if the victim was the killer in the suit, his handprints would not be on Freddy's face. While Foxy's jaw could sustain the required force on the killers skull, the suit would pass the boundaries. It is likely Foxy protected the children by biting the suit-equipped killer.

[Mr. Rev Kingbones the III, PHD]

Originally posted by Schlaufuchston:

Originally posted by djlee02:

I don't think your looking into a mirror. The eyes are to big, theres no eyelids, and theres little things on the bottom of the eyes holding them up.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141111102133/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/1/18/FNAF2GameOverScreen.png
The noses are in perfect place to be reflected. The eyes are actually spaced back the same length as your view and the reflected images view. Also, who's to say those aren't YOUR eyes? You can see two bars holding the eyes up in a cup shaped eye holder. Maybe you have nerves connected in those bars? They look pretty spaced. Going by the Night 5 reference to Yogi's book, it's very possible Jeremy is dead but in a way re-animated via sentient life force in oxygen and metal. So maybe it's not Jeremy himself but the mind and soul of Jeremy?

obviously his soul was transmuted into the fazbear suit.
(No human transmutation occured during the making of this comment)

[IceWolf]

Originally posted by HawlSera:

I don't think Jeremy is the bite victim. There's litearlly nothing that hints at that.

You are correct, Jeremy is more than likely NOT the bite victim. Although it is possible, as it is stated that the animatronics are more hostile to ADULTS during the day.

[Kurf]

Originally posted by IceWolf:

Originally posted by HawlSera:

I don't think Jeremy is the bite victim. There's litearlly nothing that hints at that.

You are correct, Jeremy is more than likely NOT the bite victim. Although it is possible, as it is stated that the animatronics are more hostile to ADULTS during the day.

The kidnapper is an adult too, you know.

[IceWolf]

Originally posted by Schlaufuchston:

Originally posted by djlee02:

I don't think your looking into a mirror. The eyes are to big, theres no eyelids, and theres little things on the bottom of the eyes holding them up.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141111102133/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/1/18/FNAF2GameOverScreen.png
The noses are in perfect place to be reflected. The eyes are actually spaced back the same length as your view and the reflected images view. Also, who's to say those aren't YOUR eyes? You can see two bars holding the eyes up in a cup shaped eye holder. Maybe you have nerves connected in those bars? They look pretty spaced. Going by the Night 5 reference to Yogi's book, it's very possible Jeremy is dead but in a way re-animated via sentient life force in oxygen and metal. So maybe it's not Jeremy himself but the mind and soul of Jeremy?

Whos know sat this point, though looking way too deep into things may very well go beyond the spectrum of the content or information the artist is trying to convey. I went off of what Scott was providing, and tried not to venture too far beyond that for the sake of respect.

[Kurf]

Originally posted by IceWolf:

Originally posted by Schlaufuchston:

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20141111102133/freddy-fazbears-pizza/images/1/18/FNAF2GameOverScreen.png
The noses are in perfect place to be reflected. The eyes are actually spaced back the same length as your view and the reflected images view. Also, who's to say those aren't YOUR eyes? You can see two bars holding the eyes up in a cup shaped eye holder. Maybe you have nerves connected in those bars? They look pretty spaced. Going by the Night 5 reference to Yogi's book, it's very possible Jeremy is dead but in a way re-animated via sentient life force in oxygen and metal. So maybe it's not Jeremy himself but the mind and soul of Jeremy?

Whos know sat this point, though looking way too deep into things may very well go beyond the spectrum of the content or information the artist is trying to convey. I went off of what Scott was providing, and tried not to venture too far beyond that for the sake of respect.

You can have a chat with Scott like many have done. A similar example of this type of community is Dark Souls. The product is not designed to convey a message nor provide itself primarily as entertainment. This game is designed for theories, for community interaction. Scott is trying to make people think and work with what they're given to collectively form theories for his game. He WANTS us to go far beyond the animatronics, far beyond the lights, far beyond the horror genre. He wants us to figure out why are there animatronics, lights, and why is it a horror?
He's promoting theories and that is why we are delving deep into the topic, because there is no message conveyed with FNAF, we have to make the message.

[IceWolf]

Originally posted by Schlaufuchston:

Originally posted by IceWolf:

Whos know sat this point, though looking way too deep into things may very well go beyond the spectrum of the content or information the artist is trying to convey. I went off of what Scott was providing, and tried not to venture too far beyond that for the sake of respect.

You can have a chat with Scott like many have done. A similar example of this type of community is Dark Souls. The product is not designed to convey a message nor provide itself primarily as entertainment. This game is designed for theories, for community interaction. Scott is trying to make people think and work with what they're given to collectively form theories for his game. He WANTS us to go far beyond the animatronics, far beyond the lights, far beyond the horror genre. He wants us to figure out why are there animatronics, lights, and why is it a horror?
He's promoting theories and that is why we are delving deep into the topic, because there is no message conveyed with FNAF, we have to make the message.

That is the sad truth, This game may very well not be intended to convey such deep messages. I've talked to scott before, and he's been a generally plesant guy to talk to. But I'm speculating that this theory i've mad at least makes use of the evidence and actions provided in the game. at nowhere in anything I have written thus far, have I been grasping at straws.

So really ... who knows? F. Scott Fitzgerald never went out and confirmed or denied any analog, symbolism, or metaphor wiht The Great Gatsby, so at this point we only have our own assumptions to go on with the extended lore of this franchise. An extended lore provided by the players who want to search deeper, just like those that have scrounged the depths of old literature in order to plague highschool students with a month work of homework only to culminate in a C- because they couldn't grasp random conjectures made by some douchebag in a class about what the green light means at the end of a pier.

I did not just channel scholastic hatred or repressed experiences at a Five Nights at Freddy's game.

I promise. >_>

Nevermind. F#$K that book. That SHT@# was STUPID.