Moonchild

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And I thought my trailers were smug.
“Whether you're a retro enthusiast or just someone in the market for a good RPG, there's a good chance Moonchild will satisfy the itch”
80 – Gamezebo

“Moonchild is a substantial and intricately-developed indie roleplaying game on par with releases from more conventional studio”
80 – Jay Is Games

“Das RPG-Geruest und die Story sind solide, Grafik und Musik sehr gelungen”
80 – Splash Games
I wonder if this game could get any more pretentious.

Has anyone heard of these firms?

I sure haven't.

I'm not going to buy this, I may have had your trailer been less eager to have it's head so far up it's own bhutthole, but like, Jayisgames' review is something you're highlighting? I've never heard of them.

If it was IGN, yeah okay, fine.

Desura, sure.

Metacritic, that's okay. Everyone knows what that is.

If I'm forced to research who your sponsors are, then you've already failed and made a fool of yourself, GG.

Also three seconds of gameplay, nice... You're actually showing less gameplay than Triple-A devs do these days, how shameful.

Walking around a map isn't gameplay... and to be fair, your gameplay looks ♥♥♥♥♥ messy.
http://i.imgur.com/aGXzc3P.png
You sure showed me how well you can manage GUI's when you somehow made the baseline GUI more messy than the RTP, jesus christ.

Also your charging 5 dollars for a strategy guide, that's some quality DLC alright. I fully expect RPGmakerWebs endorses crap like this, which makes me ever more glad I'm not affiliated with them at all, because they are all about this pretentious garbage, like the game might be really good, but hell if I'm paying ten dollars to find out. I think this attitude is probably shared by most who share my position or at least are on the fence, because that trailer raises red flags like frenchies raise white ones. No one has bought your game and provided a negative review, or maybe you just delete those ones, hah. But I'm doing my best to give you credit.

4/5 from a game dev company no one has heard of. Cool, maybe when you have some nice comments from a place we've heard of, I'll take you seriously.

What would have sold me is if it was all facetious, like 4/5 from "my nextdoor neighbor called rob"

That's hilarious, but hey this is an RPGmaker hotshot we're talking about, and acting like they hold candles to even deadbeats like myself is about as sophisticated as the RPGmakerWebs crowd ever gets.

So sorry I have the mental capacity to know a smug halfwit who doesn't deserve 10 dollars when I see one. I'm almost tempted to buy the game just so I can play it and leave you a more honest review, but whats the point. You (i.e. the only person i really want to see this message) is going to catch wind of this, and if you show some humanity in your response, I will eat humble pie, but your trailers and tidbits are just... wow.

Also your trailer holds absolutely no information whatsoever except we are saving a child... this overused one liner "Time is running out" means jack all because you haven't established any bloody stakes or context. This goes for just about every text overlay in the trailer.
Last edited by Remi-Chan: Chaos Goddess; Aug 29, 2015 @ 6:22pm
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kinda shocked that you didn't include the obligatory "they used the rtp for graphics" thing that always comes with these types of posts
Originally posted by spade/horse apparently:
kinda shocked that you didn't include the obligatory "they used the rtp for graphics" thing that always comes with these types of posts
It appears I don't have to. After all, you thought of it anyway!

I'm not even trying to tell him his game is bad, because I have no personal grounds to do so, only the word of several other people who have said to me it's a thankless grind and more or less prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. I'm illustrating firsthand that the trailer is uninformative and all I see is a bunch of words and imagery, with no ensuing substance. I have no idea what the game is about, who any of the characters are, why the child is important or worth saving. It's just a bad and messy trailer. There's no two ways about it.

This is before I even talk of it's overbearing pretentiousness, there's no info, it's just a bunch of pretty tacked-together looseneck ties to nothing at all relevant because nothing is defined at all.

It's a nothing trailer, it tells me nothing about the game, the story, or the characters.

All I can make out is that the world is threatened by darkness and that there is a child you need to save and by golly you need to give me more info than that. Who am I? Their father, their mother, a mercenary aiding the child's mother, who are all these people shown?

It honestly looks like it was made by Degica and they had no idea what the game was about, rather than the developer who would or should be passionate enough about the game to tell me why I can like it too, in 2 minutes you could have introduced me to characters, highlighted gameplay features, and possibly lots of them, shown some insight into the world, instead it opts to sell people by looking nice and that doesn't work for cynical narcissists like myself, or anyone with more buyer's awareness than a customer on black friday.

You can blow me off, or learn. That choice is yours.
Last edited by Remi-Chan: Chaos Goddess; Sep 30, 2015 @ 4:59pm
davidb11 Jan 15, 2016 @ 2:24pm 
I know your post is really old, but you are literally the most obvious troll ever.
You're insulting a great game company for RPGmaker games. One of the best. Literally.

You're extremely lazy if you don't even bother to look up what this game is about.
Seriously. This is the most trolly, insulting, harassing message on a forum.
Even if the trailer doesn't have many action screenshots, you can easily look up this game via google and read/see enough of it.

I've been playing Aldorea games for a few years, they're great bits of fun.
Who cares if the assets aren't always 100% brand new.

You clearly have never seen any of their games before, you've clearly have no understanding of the basics of how these games work.

You know nothing of major websites that review things, don't even think of IGN, that's barely respectable anymore, and you think that's a valid complaint, which is absurd.
Finally, all these games on Steam are actually re-releases of games that have been out for a few years before.
The dev's official website lists a whole lot of games.

Sure, you have to be dedicated to the RPGmaker genre to enjoy games with the tile set.
But you are the most disrespectful person I've ever seen here on steam for these games, or any games.
Even That Dragon, Cancer is less full of jerks, and that had a lot of people who are literally worse than cancer.


You don't even know how to complain and give constructive critcism.
You make Hydorfloric acid look downright non-caustic, and that stuff is strong enough to etch glass.

Also, you don't know what Pretentious means, because you're far more pretentious than this game dev is. :P

Oh, and in full disclosure, the creator of this game is only on my friends list because I was honored he asked to be my friend. It also makes it easier to annoy him with questions he doesn't answer because he's too busy. :)

Seriously though, don't dismiss reviews because you odn't know the entire series of websites to games that aren't freaking Triple-AAA.
THat's a laughable complaint.

Also, if you're a cynical narcissist, you'd be nicer than you are. :)
Because even the most cynical narcissists in the world would tell you you're too mean to be one.
Last edited by davidb11; Jan 15, 2016 @ 2:34pm
Okay, assuming your claim of me being a troll is true, then you know before you responded that you'd have nothing to gain.

Thankfully, I'm actually not a troll.

"Seriously though, don't dismiss reviews because you odn't know the entire series of websites to games that aren't freaking Triple-AAA.
THat's a laughable complaint."

I'd no sooner trust triple A reviewers, but since I don't trust reviewers I've never heard of, it's essentially my own intuition I've used here.

"Sure, you have to be dedicated to the RPGmaker genre to enjoy games with the tile set.
But you are the most disrespectful person I've ever seen here on steam for these games, or any games.
Even That Dragon, Cancer is less full of jerks, and that had a lot of people who are literally worse than cancer."
Say's the guy who's responding to a four month old review. Be honest with me, were you just that bored or do you actually give enough of a ♥♥♥♥ about Aldorlea games to get so defensive about an opinion.

"You're insulting a great game company for RPGmaker games. One of the best. Literally."
This is literally the only game I've heard of by the company, and the only reason I found this was because of someone telling me how gross it was in the first place.

Maybe I'll concede it's one of the best RPGmaker game-oriented companies that produces commercially, but at that point you're basically forced to condede that it's pretentiousness is very real, and it's pretty flabberghasting a game made in RPGmaker would have the guile to be anything beyond 5 dollars.

"Also, if you're a cynical narcissist, you'd be nicer than you are. :)
Because even the most cynical narcissists in the world would tell you you're too mean to be one."
This is probably the most stupid thing I've ever heard.

"You don't even know how to complain and give constructive critcism."
You're an idiot.

That line there, that i just gave, that would not be constructive criticism...
"there's no info, it's just a bunch of pretty tacked-together looseneck ties to nothing at all relevant because nothing is defined at all."
That is very much constructive criticism, if you can't see that, then you're blind or stupid, maybe both.

Or just maybe you were actually dumb enough to buy this game and now are really mad because you deep down feel like you shouldn't have but oh no, it's too late!

10 dollars isn't much for a game, but that people charge for RPGmaker games at all is pretty mind-boggling to me, if they charge 2 dollars or something then yeah, okay.

Then you have this guy charging five times that and then the manual for five dollars as DLC, which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hilarious, and if you bought that too I gotta praise the developer because at least he did make money out of someone so obsessed with their own fidelity to a brand that they are bothering to accost someone who posted a review several months ago.

"Even if the trailer doesn't have many action screenshots, you can easily look up this game via google and read/see enough of it."
You're not exactly helping your case any by supporting the developer's laziness/lack of tact. Just fyi.

A trailer is where most will stop, if the trailer doesn't have much information, then oh man, guess what, people aren't gonna be interested enough to find it elsewhere.

In closing I'm not speaking on a solely subjective basis here, i've know several people who have bought this game and not at all been pleased with it, so I do actually know a fair bit of what I'm talking about. Also that you have to assume I'm a troll just because I have an opinion that differs from yours is incredibly juvenile.

TL;DR I have an opinion that differs to yours, get over it.
Last edited by Remi-Chan: Chaos Goddess; Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:13pm
davidb11 Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:12pm 
Our opinions differ, but your insane rudeness makes anything you say completely null and void.
You have no right to be so rude.

So, I dismiss all your claims as trolling, because if you are not trolling, you are evil.
I mean that in the most politest way possible, but no one acts like you do. No one. Not even the worst trolls.

I'm sorry, but I love the games by this company, and i know what bad games are like. This game is Triple A grade compared to many games on Steam.
Also, you never trust reviewers you never heard of? Are you new to reviewing? I don't think you've grasped how it works.

PLease just stop insulting people ,and maybe I can take you seriously.

Until then, I couldn't care less what your opinion is, because you have no honor.
You don't deserve to even be allowed on Steam.

I mean, I have Asperger's, a mental disorder, and I can't fathom anyone being as evil as you.
Well, except for the really bad people in history, but they're not comparible to you, becuse they're a lot worse.
You're no Mao, I mean.
But you are by definition, evil, if you are not a troll.

OH, and by the way, any review as bad as yours should be removed from any service, and purged from recorded existence, forgotten to time.

Seriously, you are so full of hate and vileness that you are by no means capable of having logical opinions.
You can either hate this game, or despise it with fanatical anger and rage.
You're doing the latter.

Also, no one actually stops at a trailer, or even pays attention to it when judging a game.
you clearly are new to video games if you actual think anyone does that.
Especially with how Steam defaults to muting trailers, which means you have to turn them on to have it speak.

THe majority of people in the world are lazy.

Also, again, these games, while they do not appeal to everyone, are not terrible/bad, and have a good following of humans. :)
I apologize for not lumping you into the same catagory as ♥♥♥♥ Sapiens, but you haven't proven you belong yet. :)
Last edited by davidb11; Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:19pm
Originally posted by davidb11:
Our opinions differ, but your insane rudeness makes anything you say completely null and void.
You have no right to be so rude.
I am allowed to do whatever I want.

If you find my lack of manners to be uncalled for, it may mean that I am a scoundrel, but it certainly does not make my criticisms null in merit.

Originally posted by davidb11:
So, I dismiss all your claims as trolling, because if you are not trolling, you are evil.
I mean that in the most politest way possible, but no one acts like you do. No one. Not even the worst trolls.
Is that really what you have to tell yourself?

Pathetic.

Originally posted by davidb11:
I'm sorry, but I love the games by this company, and i know what bad games are like.
PLease just stop insulting people ,and maybe I can take you seriously.
Well it's a bit late now isn't it? You do realize you've called me now "troll", "evil", "sophoric acid" and others, you're no better than me, dear. =)

Originally posted by davidb11:
Until then, I couldn't care less what your opinion is, because you have no honor.
If that was true you wouldn't have responded in the first place.

Originally posted by davidb11:
You don't deserve to even be allowed on Steam.
Be at ease, at least I'm not on RPGmakerWeb, right?

Originally posted by davidb11:
I mean, I have Asperger's, a mental disorder, and I can't fathom anyone being as evil as you.
I had a brain tumor when O was five, I'm visiting a psychologist for mental help and I'm legally blind.

I could use my illnesses to justify or enforce things, too. But I don't because it's pathetic. Not to mention I have much more valid reasons for being here.
Originally posted by davidb11:
Well, except for the really bad people in history, but they're not comparible to you, becuse they're a lot worse.
You're no Mao, I mean.
But you are by definition, evil, if you are not a troll.
Okay, let's look at the word evil.

It's a subjective way to say someone is malicious.

Yet I've been reviewing, rudely, but nonetheless, taking time out of my life to tell someone about their trailer, not even the game, the trailer. It was despite the scorn-coated overlay, designed to help.

Please do iteriate for me how helping someone in a looseleaf manner is evil. You're just enraged because I have an opinion that differs to yours, and much as I don't believe you have the will to hold your tongue because you responded in the first place, it doesn't matter what you think of my opinion because you don't develop or work on the game, so should you cease response with me, I could care little.

Also if Aldorlea games had any problem with it they could remove / lock this topic, but they haven't done that, whether it's because they see some merit underlying what I say or because they are mature enough not to get butthurt over criticism, it's pretty showing of you to show up like a White Knight nobody even needs.

Originally posted by davidb11:
OH, and by the way, any review as bad as yours should be removed from any service, and purged from recorded existence, forgotten to time.
Oh yes, how dare I be allowed to voice an opinion. You know what freedom of speech is, don't you?

It's more than "You can say what you want", you have to realize that anyone can say what they want in the form of an opinion.

Feel free to sign a petition that takes away your human right to object while you're making such one-sided demands.

Fact is, this thread could actually be deleted if it was warranted, I know because some of the less civil topics I've made on the RPGmaker webs group have been deleted or purged.

So basically, you're the only one here with a problem. I don't have a problem with the game in itself and it's the devs choice to use or make a new trailer, much as I may not like it, but that's his right to decide on.

The fact you keep having to delude yourself into thinking I'm a troll is just showing off how butthurt you are, even though that was pretty much obvious from your first line.

Aldorlea games is a big boy, it doesn't need defending. Pottymouthed reviewers like me aren't going to reduce them to tears and they care even less about you.
davidb11 Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:42pm 
Aldorea Games doesn't moderate their forums here that well, so if the Dev does finally see this one, he will probably lock it to prevent WW3 starting. :)

All things considered, I'm sorry about your brain tumor. I apologize for my defensive words.
THat's my fault, and it is indeed part of my Asperger's, I'm not actually a bad guy.
I just think you're rude. And it set me off, Asperger's focus does that, when someone is challenged on something that they love, they freak the hell out.
It's a real thing. It's really stupid that it's real thing in my brain. But it is.


I apologize for what I have done and said.
I apologize for what I've said, but I still stand by the fact I do not believe you are unbiased in your reviewing.
I mean no offense. I just personally believe you are not unbiased.

Again, I really really am sorry for goign completely off the walls ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane.
I will delete my posts if you wish.



Originally posted by davidb11:
Seriously, you are so full of hate and vileness that you are by no means capable of having logical opinions.
Sorry, couldn't hear you demonize me there as your butthurt is now approaching some sort of singularity.
Originally posted by davidb11:
You can either hate this game, or despise it with fanatical anger and rage.
You're doing the latter.
I see you are ignorant, too. I didn't ever say I personally had a problem with the game.
"I'm not even trying to tell him his game is bad, because I have no personal grounds to do so, only the word of several other people who have said to me it's a thankless grind and more or less prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. I'm illustrating firsthand that the trailer is uninformative and all I see is a bunch of words and imagery, with no ensuing substance."

Originally posted by davidb11:
Also, no one actually stops at a trailer, or even pays attention to it when judging a game.
you clearly are new to video games if you actual think anyone does that.
I have over a hundred and fifty games on steam alone and I've played plenty of RPGmaker ones, too. I've been playing games since I was 6 and I'm 27 now, so no. I'm pretty sure I have been around video games most of my life.

And most do, most will stop at a trailer.

Originally posted by davidb11:
Especially with how Steam defaults to muting trailers, which means you have to turn them on to have it speak.
This might surprise you but i didn't find this game on steam first. I saw the trailer on youtube a couple years back, thought 'meh', never looked at it again until i started hearing more about it, mostly that the game isn't that great or was disappointing.

Originally posted by davidb11:
THe majority of people in the world are lazy.
My point exactly. If you don't deliver on a trailer you don't deliver, because as you helped point out, people are lazy, they aren't going to actively search for info after a trailer fails to grab them.

Originally posted by davidb11:
Also, again, these games, while they do not appeal to everyone, are not terrible/bad, and have a good following of humans. :)
I apologize for not lumping you into the same catagory as ♥♥♥♥ Sapiens, but you haven't proven you belong yet. :)
It's okay, I don't identify as human anyway.

I'm a monkey, couldn'ja tell?

Also, while your trying oh so desperately to offend and continually failing, why don't you read some of my responses after you've cooled down and realize I'm actually paying you some respectful insight.

Or at least piece together I've said from the beginning i don't have any personal means to judge the game, and my point from the start was to capitalize what's awry with the trailer.
davidb11 Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:46pm 
My post right above yours here contains my apologies in full.
But please forgive me, I went overboard, beacuse I do have an issue.
I'm sorry.

I know I can't fix this situation, but I will respectfully bow out. Please do understand, I am not the greatest idiot to live.

Also, I would have guessed angry wolverine to be honest. Not monkey. :)
Last edited by davidb11; Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:47pm
Originally posted by davidb11:
Aldorea Games doesn't moderate their forums here that well, so if the Dev does finally see this one, he will probably lock it to prevent WW3 starting. :)
Lol I don't think that's going to happen. The WW3 thing.

It'd mean the whole world would need to give a ♥♥♥♥ about my opinion, only you seem to.

Originally posted by davidb11:
All things considered, I'm sorry about your brain tumor. I apologize for my defensive words.
THat's my fault, and it is indeed part of my Asperger's, I'm not actually a bad guy.
I just think you're rude. And it set me off, Asperger's focus does that, when someone is challenged on something that they love, they freak the hell out.
It's a real thing. It's really stupid that it's real thing in my brain. But it is.
Ahahaha, it's okay. Also don't worry about the brain tumor and that crap, I was just asking that you don't use illnesses in an attempt to justify things, more for your sake than mine.

Originally posted by davidb11:
I apologize for what I have done and said.
I apologize for what I've said, but I still stand by the fact I do not believe you are unbiased in your reviewing.
I mean no offense. I just personally believe you are not unbiased.
That's cool, and hey, it was mature of you to get over it. Also I may have been biased, though i don't recall claiming that wasn't the case.

Originally posted by davidb11:
Again, I really really am sorry for goign completely off the walls ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ insane.
I will delete my posts if you wish.
Nah nah, I need to show my friends. Lmao

Opponents like you are rare.

Not because you were incredibly tactful, but because after all was said and done you had the balls to be the bigger man and maturely admit you went overboard.

That's super hard to do and I can respect that.

I'm sorry too, even if I was essentially only defending myself. (and probably having way too much fun doing it since so many of your arguments were broken.)
Last edited by Remi-Chan: Chaos Goddess; Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:54pm
davidb11 Jan 15, 2016 @ 6:50pm 
THank you. I really do need to work on my issues. I'm much better than I was 14 years ago. So, I'm slowly getting better.
I do take medication.

I'm 33, and I act like I'm 12 sometimes.
Really though, thank you for being understanding and not holding an eternal grudge.
Originally posted by davidb11:
THank you. I really do need to work on my issues. I'm much better than I was 14 years ago. So, I'm slowly getting better.
I do take medication.

I'm 33, and I act like I'm 12 sometimes.
Really though, thank you for being understanding and not holding an eternal grudge.
Lol, all good buddy. It ain't in my nature to hold grudges.
TheSkrin Apr 18, 2016 @ 10:34am 
You put too much effort into hating this game.
davidb11 Apr 18, 2016 @ 12:32pm 
I doubt he really hates the game. :)
Lol I don't have merit enough to hate it. I didn't buy it, I guess I just wanted to tell the dev his trailer was really stupid. :D
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