poison blade use ?

[JOHNNY]

what is the difference with hidden blade ?

[Basan™]

Try opening your menus with "Esc", then select the "Inventory" option. And inside it should be a "Weapons" one that simply details everything that you're wanting to know about the Poison Blade (and every other game's details).

Way older games didn't had the habit to leave you stranded, so...

[LofLM🇵🇷]

The Poison Blade can be used to inject a target with poison, causing them to attack anyone within range, before dying. Due to its delayed reaction, Ezio is given much more time to escape than when using the Hidden Blade. Besides dealing a direct kill to the target, the Poison Blade could also be used as a distraction, as anyone within the immediate area would stop to watch the poisoned victim, creating an assassination opportunity if one of the spectators happened to be a target. Additionally, I guess you could poison someone as a distraction to cover an approach to a restricted area in the same manner.
I found the Poison Blade especially useful when completing assassination contracts, as in many cases targets would either be followed by guards or within a guarded area. Poison vials can be bought from any doctor, each costs 175 florins, and up to five could be initially carried at a time. The maximum number of vials can be increased after buying poison vial upgrades, purchasable from any tailor.

When you use The Hidden Blade you just kill the target and that’s all, it gives no side effect to the victim. Think of it like a regular knife, it’s nothing special but you can be sneaky with it.

[JOHNNY]

Originally posted by LofLM:

The Poison Blade can be used to inject a target with poison, causing them to attack anyone within range, before dying. Due to its delayed reaction, Ezio is given much more time to escape than when using the Hidden Blade. Besides dealing a direct kill to the target, the Poison Blade could also be used as a distraction, as anyone within the immediate area would stop to watch the poisoned victim, creating an assassination opportunity if one of the spectators happened to be a target. Additionally, I guess you could poison someone as a distraction to cover an approach to a restricted area in the same manner.
I found the Poison Blade especially useful when completing assassination contracts, as in many cases targets would either be followed by guards or within a guarded area. Poison vials can be bought from any doctor, each costs 175 florins, and up to five could be initially carried at a time. The maximum number of vials can be increased after buying poison vial upgrades, purchasable from any tailor.

When you use The Hidden Blade you just kill the target and that’s all, it gives no side effect to the victim. Think of it like a regular knife, it’s nothing special but you can be sneaky with it.

oooh . when you put it that way yeah it is useful. i only completed story missions and poison blade is useless since some mission makes me notorious by default hence the poison blade being bothersome to use. or maybe i wasn't thinking hard enough how to use it. my default is that if melee isn't working, use the GUN.

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Originally posted by JOHNNY:

oooh . when you put it that way yeah it is useful. i only completed story missions and poison blade is useless since some mission makes me notorious by default hence the poison blade being bothersome to use. or maybe i wasn't thinking hard enough how to use it. my default is that if melee isn't working, use the GUN.

I used the Hidden Gun a lot when I was on rooftops in Venice and a guard noticed me and I was in the middle of something, like searching for a feather. Was pretty helpful cuz they can actually push you down if they’re shooting at you w/ arrows and that can be pretty annoying

The Poison Blade can be versatile if you make a plan on how to execute an assassination cuz it does require some planning. Most players only use the Hidden Blade and Sword anyway. Tbh I only used the Poison Blade for assassination contracts, I don’t remember using it for main storyline missions.

[JOHNNY]

Originally posted by LofLM:

Originally posted by JOHNNY:

oooh . when you put it that way yeah it is useful. i only completed story missions and poison blade is useless since some mission makes me notorious by default hence the poison blade being bothersome to use. or maybe i wasn't thinking hard enough how to use it. my default is that if melee isn't working, use the GUN.

I used the Hidden Gun a lot when I was on rooftops in Venice and a guard noticed me and I was in the middle of something, like searching for a feather. Was pretty helpful cuz they can actually push you down if they’re shooting at you w/ arrows and that can be pretty annoying

The Poison Blade can be versatile if you make a plan on how to execute an assassination cuz it does require some planning. Most players only use the Hidden Blade and Sword anyway. Tbh I only used the Poison Blade for assassination contracts, I don’t remember using it for main storyline missions.

for rooftop guards i use throwing knives since gun takes a time to shoot.

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Originally posted by JOHNNY:

Originally posted by LofLM:

I used the Hidden Gun a lot when I was on rooftops in Venice and a guard noticed me and I was in the middle of something, like searching for a feather. Was pretty helpful cuz they can actually push you down if they’re shooting at you w/ arrows and that can be pretty annoying

The Poison Blade can be versatile if you make a plan on how to execute an assassination cuz it does require some planning. Most players only use the Hidden Blade and Sword anyway. Tbh I only used the Poison Blade for assassination contracts, I don’t remember using it for main storyline missions.

for rooftop guards i use throwing knives since gun takes a time to shoot.

That works too. Both have downsides though.
To the gun, it’s that if you don’t hit the target and shoot air the rest of the guards in the area you’re in are gonna be alerted.
As for Throwing Knives, it’s just a personal experience, but I’ve had encounters where some guards would take 2-3 hits. Gun kills instantly.

[JOHNNY]

yeah. true. throwing knives only 1 shot roof guards at florence. for venice and rogmana/forli they take more than one.

i wish i can buy an axe. i like to fight with heavy weapons. the kills animation are satisfying. then again ezio would't be a assassin.

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Originally posted by JOHNNY:

i wish i can buy an axe. i like to fight with heavy weapons. the kills animation are satisfying. then again ezio would't be a assassin.

I'm positive the axe came with AC3. Pretty sure Connor had one cuz he has way different kill animations than Altair or Ezio. But yeah I agree, the Hidden Blade is more elegant and silent than rampaging with an axe in Venice. TBF, if Ezio had had access to the axe it would've ruined the atmosphere in AC2. It just wouldn't suit the game.

[JOHNNY]

true. true.

[Basan™]

Originally posted by JOHNNY:

yeah. true. throwing knives only 1 shot roof guards at florence. for venice and rogmana/forli they take more than one.

i wish i can buy an axe. i like to fight with heavy weapons. the kills animation are satisfying. then again ezio would't be a assassin.

Although you cannot stash an "Heavy Weapon" into your weapon's holster once at your uncle's Villa you can train the usage of those sort of weapons (for 10k cash, once its unlocked) and then you can steal those from Knights by fighting them with bare fists, by countering their regular attack and then use "Axes" or "Long Swords" on them around almost like you can use those upon AC: Brotherhood.

I do it all the time around Venice, although I'm almost sure that already could do it in Forlí.

[darkfuryXL]

I did not use poison regularly, but I found it very useful for some assassination contracts. Particularly there is one that requires you to dispatch 2 groups of heavy guards (10 total) in limited time. I found poison blade was the easiest and most effective way of doing that.

[Basan™]

Originally posted by darkfuryXL:

I did not use poison regularly, but I found it very useful for some assassination contracts. Particularly there is one that requires you to dispatch 2 groups of heavy guards (10 total) in limited time. I found poison blade was the easiest and most effective way of doing that.

My simples solution was toss a Smoke Bomb and have both my Hidden Blades available for positional double kills while they get stunned by the gas. Far simpler and no fighting them drama, imho.

[ANALYST_0451]

Originally posted by JOHNNY:

what is the difference with hidden blade ?

In addition to assassination contracts, it's useful in collecting codex pages. If you tag a guard in a passing patrol, they will cause a distraction drawing the four main guards away. This is especially useful in areas without many Thieves, Mercenaries, or Courtesans around, like Florence -- or if you'd just prefer to save the cash.

Please note, you cannot get close enough to the Codex guards to hit them with the poison: you'll need to find a passing patrol or soldiers stationed nearby. Poison is cheaper than factions.

It will also work if you tag a civilian, but I only did it once and then counted my blessings that I didn't desynchronize on the spot.

[Basan™]

In most Assassin's Creed games (AC) you'll only die if you kill 3 civillians in a rather short time span (atm, my only known exception to that rule is AC: Rogue once Shay Cormac evades the Assassins because from that point since he simply doens't care about innocent civillians pretty much like a Templar would do).
And, as an alternative, you can also avoid that being deshynchronized thingy by leaving the game into the main menu and restarting your saved progress once again.

[LofLM🇵🇷]

Originally posted by Basan™:

he simply doens't care about innocent civillians pretty much like a Templar would do).

Disagreed. And I’m not even a Templar fan. What do you mean by “pretty much like a Templar would do”? The game’s literally trying to tell us that neither the Assassins nor the Templars are the good guys. But raises questions too.
If you have time, watch this video:
https://youtu.be/XDQkvDLL_BA?si=6mjuTydoWAhuN2o7
The Templars and Assassins represent a clash between benevolent authoritarianism and chaotic liberty. The dialogue in AC1 captures that extremely well with good points made on both sides. Can the people be trusted with freedom as the Assassins want? Can those in power be trusted to wield it rationally as the Templars envision?
I highly suggest listening to Haytham’s speech while fighting him in AC3. Most people discard his speech because he’s a Templar, but he was right about a lot of things. Especially about the connection between control and the people.
https://youtu.be/iLAQLRB76Y8?si=icknhcIpBIgwOaVt

So back to your “Templars don’t care about civilians” sentiment. In AC1 it’s mentioned that Abstergo Industries (the front company for the Templars) have made vast contributions to the world with technology obtained from the PoE. So Templars did, in fact, help humanity (including civilians) by bringing technological advancements to the table. Saying that Templars don’t give a ♥♥♥♥ about civilians is wrong.