Entitled whiny moment

[Nightbringer]

After seeing Sims 2 on Steam I was excited. My childhood defining game is back! However, then I saw reviews are mixed and I thought that EA had screwed up something. However, in reviews I saw nothing wrong with this game. People are complaining that they got an old game. That EA just fixed bugs, made it work on modern systems and that is it.

Isn't that the whole point of supporting original games? You don't want anything to be changed in them. You just want them to run. It is job for remasters, remakes or reboots. This clearly isn't either one of those things. It is just like GoG, they made sure that an old game can be launched on new systems, ensuring that legacy game works fine without a retro system. This to me represents such a fine example of gamers being stereotypically whiny and entitled. Constantly unhappy and expecting free stuff being handed over to them. Being the stereotypes and representing toxic side of the gaming community.

Sure, it could be better or cheaper. However, this game is likely going to be at 75% discount soon regardless and you have to specifically complain about pricing being too high, but complaints as is are focused about not getting more stuff. About this being a mere re-release and not a remaster. I don't think that there is anything bad with fixing up old classics and releasing them as is on Steam. I'm for one are happy with EA that they finally had bothered to release this old classic on Steam. I probably won't ever play it seriously, but I'm just happy to see this old gem back on Steam with all of its content.

[Romo]

Listen. I'm one of the few people that was hyped regardless of the price and instantly bought it but I extremely regret it right now. This isn't just a simple re-release. They've gone back and muddied the code to the point where things that were never broken before are now broken. To name a few:

1. Alien pregnancies
2. Food serving
3. Semesters
4. Changing Appearances
5. Multiple mods

I play with the Curious household every single time and the fact that my first experience with this "re-release" was vidcund walking away while being abducted and the cutscene getting bugged out is not a good sign. Most big modders have also said they don't want anything to do with this edition. Until EA fixes this, this is the inferior version.

[Janni]

Only complaint i have is that they removed some of the old soundtracks and the ikea pack (very likely due to licensing).

Otherwise though its a really fun port that fixed the issues with the old one.

[In The Shadow....]

You said it yourself, the whole point of a re-release is for the game to run properly on modern hardware. The issue? It doesn't; if you took a little peek at the discussions here, you would know. As Romo already mentioned some, I will add to that list...
The whole point of buying it, is for the sake of simplicity, you shouldn't need to tinker with the files to make it work properly (this is just my personal opinion):

- Sims are randomly disappearing from households
- Pets after coming back from work crash the game (someone already basically softlocked his savefile because of this)
- The "pink soup" issue is still present (I suspect this may be because of mods/CC)
- Neighborhoods are missing in some cases
- To expand on Alien pregnancies, this could be potentially linked to cutscenes not working correctly
-Speaking of savefiles, people are losing their progress because the game basically doesn't want to save it

[Peuloom]

They did not fix anything, in fact it's not working very well on updated setups.

I got a pretty decent PC, and Red Dead Redemption 2 on Ultra settings performs better than The Sims 2 with fast forward, a problem that I don't have on The Sims 3/4, Rimworld and some other simulation games.

I don't care to the prices, I am grateful that The Sims 1/2 finally came to Steam, as they are better than Sims 4, I feel the prices are quite fair, especially when it comes with all the DLCs.

I love the game, so I'll keep myself optimistic for patches.

-I can't hide the sadness of seeing EA not having due respect for one of the best games it has ever made, tho-

Let's pray!

[Nightbringer]

I do get very mixed messaging as some people are claiming that this is working properly then others that it is a broken mess. Neither forum or reviews it's very clear what people are complaining about. There is a lot of 'this should be free' type of stuff being stretched through pages. Then other people are claiming that everything works and directly contradict people who are complaining. So, it is a massive mess to understand why there is such an outrage.

I do think that it is buggy and doesn't work perfectly, but it can be launched and played which older version couldn't be. I'm under impression that this version has some patches and fixes applied by default. This makes game playable, but Sims 2 at this point (generally, not just on Steam) is a broken mess, so people are complaining that more wasn't done than a baseline.

[James3157]

Diposting pertama kali oleh In The Shadow....:

You said it yourself, the whole point of a re-release is for the game to run properly on modern hardware. The issue? It doesn't; if you took a little peek at the discussions here, you would know. As Romo already mentioned some, I will add to that list...
The whole point of buying it, is for the sake of simplicity, you shouldn't need to tinker with the files to make it work properly (this is just my personal opinion):

- Sims are randomly disappearing from households
- Pets after coming back from work crash the game (someone already basically softlocked his savefile because of this)
- The "pink soup" issue is still present (I suspect this may be because of mods/CC)
- Neighborhoods are missing in some cases
- To expand on Alien pregnancies, this could be potentially linked to cutscenes not working correctly
-Speaking of savefiles, people are losing their progress because the game basically doesn't want to save it

Thank you for using constructive criticism. EA needs to take some notes and spend more time fixing The SIms 2. I get that it is an old game, but it seems to me that it does not seem right for EA to re-release The SIms 2 and then abandoning it without making any fixes as if The SIms 2 were some kind of "unwanted child". If this re-release is more broken than the original Sims 2 game then that definitely could be a disappointment towards some people who want to play The SIms 2 again because of nostalgia.

[Coffee Addict]

EA fixing bugs? i'll believe that when i see it

[Nala]

I was excited too, after seeing all the problems people are having I'm a little less excited. I'm just going to wait before buying and see if and when they fix these issues..which I hope they get fixed because nostalgia will only go so far.
I have such good memories of Sims2 I created my own story book romance and eventually they had a child, I was so proud of my young self..lol sadly I lost it all, but seeing it re-released I would love to try and re create that. :)

[Sasha Mason]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Nightbringer:

Isn't that the whole point of supporting original games? You don't want anything to be changed in them. You just want them to run. It is job for remasters, remakes or reboots. This clearly isn't either one of those things. It is just like GoG, they made sure that an old game can be launched on new systems, ensuring that legacy game works fine without a retro system. This to me represents such a fine example of gamers being stereotypically whiny and entitled. Constantly unhappy and expecting free stuff being handed over to them. Being the stereotypes and representing toxic side of the gaming community.

Based on reviews, it seems some are having crashing issues and have left a negative review based on that. Hard to say if this is an issue with the game, or a fault with the user, but generally speaking, from their perspective, it does, in fact, not run.

I'm glad Sims 1 and 2 are made available again, but personally, I'm probably going to hold off on them for the time being. It's not that I don't want to spend that much money on an old game, I just don't want to waste my money on a game that potentially doesn't run well on my modern system like its supposed to.

[/aceg/ /gfg/ LoganNS]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Nightbringer:

After seeing Sims 2 on Steam I was excited. My childhood defining game is back! However, then I saw reviews are mixed and I thought that EA had screwed up something. However, in reviews I saw nothing wrong with this game. People are complaining that they got an old game. That EA just fixed bugs, made it work on modern systems and that is it.

Isn't that the whole point of supporting original games? You don't want anything to be changed in them. You just want them to run. It is job for remasters, remakes or reboots. This clearly isn't either one of those things. It is just like GoG, they made sure that an old game can be launched on new systems, ensuring that legacy game works fine without a retro system. This to me represents such a fine example of gamers being stereotypically whiny and entitled. Constantly unhappy and expecting free stuff being handed over to them. Being the stereotypes and representing toxic side of the gaming community.

Sure, it could be better or cheaper. However, this game is likely going to be at 75% discount soon regardless and you have to specifically complain about pricing being too high, but complaints as is are focused about not getting more stuff. About this being a mere re-release and not a remaster. I don't think that there is anything bad with fixing up old classics and releasing them as is on Steam. I'm for one are happy with EA that they finally had bothered to release this old classic on Steam. I probably won't ever play it seriously, but I'm just happy to see this old gem back on Steam with all of its content.

1. All the people working on the original games have moved on from Maxis/EA and will not see a single cent from this game, the EA execs and investors will.
2. The game is broken on modern systems, fixes they did apply to the game are stolen community patches that were not credited, game worked fine on "retro" win XP/7 Linux systems as it was.
3. EA only bothered with it on 25th anniversary because people would kick and scream if all they got was post on twitter, pulling an exe from a server and making a steam page for it was fast and convenient.
4. We judge products based on how they are presented to a customer, EA has took the game they gave out for free on origin for a limited time, and instead of giving it away for free again or bundling it with something like sims 3 that is already on the steam store, slapped a price tag on it to prey on people that don't sit 24/7 in sims communities and don't know a free version maintained by the community exists on the internet.

This has nothing to do with preservation of games, celebration of sims or anything like that, its a soulless cash grab.

[Nightbringer]

Yeah, this is the attitude I was talking about.

[jilliam]

i think people are reasonably frustrated with the poor stability and performance stuff but leave it to people to also complain about the thing they were wanting for years being exactly what they wanted

[In The Shadow....]

Diposting pertama kali oleh jilliam:

i think people are reasonably frustrated with the poor stability and performance stuff but leave it to people to also complain about the thing they were wanting for years being exactly what they wanted

Yeah you are right, that's what is odd to me as well... Me personally I am happy that they finally brought back sims 2 with no changes whatsoever, because that's what I wanted. The problem is that the issues that people are having is pushing me back to not buy it, because it seems like a hit or miss, you could be one of the few that have absolutely 0 issues or you could be flooded by them

[60]

Diposting pertama kali oleh /aceg/ LoganNS:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Nightbringer:

After seeing Sims 2 on Steam I was excited. My childhood defining game is back! However, then I saw reviews are mixed and I thought that EA had screwed up something. However, in reviews I saw nothing wrong with this game. People are complaining that they got an old game. That EA just fixed bugs, made it work on modern systems and that is it.

Isn't that the whole point of supporting original games? You don't want anything to be changed in them. You just want them to run. It is job for remasters, remakes or reboots. This clearly isn't either one of those things. It is just like GoG, they made sure that an old game can be launched on new systems, ensuring that legacy game works fine without a retro system. This to me represents such a fine example of gamers being stereotypically whiny and entitled. Constantly unhappy and expecting free stuff being handed over to them. Being the stereotypes and representing toxic side of the gaming community.

Sure, it could be better or cheaper. However, this game is likely going to be at 75% discount soon regardless and you have to specifically complain about pricing being too high, but complaints as is are focused about not getting more stuff. About this being a mere re-release and not a remaster. I don't think that there is anything bad with fixing up old classics and releasing them as is on Steam. I'm for one are happy with EA that they finally had bothered to release this old classic on Steam. I probably won't ever play it seriously, but I'm just happy to see this old gem back on Steam with all of its content.

1. All the people working on the original games have moved on from Maxis/EA and will not see a single cent from this game, the EA execs and investors will.
2. The game is broken on modern systems, fixes they did apply to the game are stolen community patches that were not credited, game worked fine on "retro" win XP/7 Linux systems as it was.
3. EA only bothered with it on 25th anniversary because people would kick and scream if all they got was post on twitter, pulling an exe from a server and making a steam page for it was fast and convenient.
4. We judge products based on how they are presented to a customer, EA has took the game they gave out for free on origin for a limited time, and instead of giving it away for free again or bundling it with something like sims 3 that is already on the steam store, slapped a price tag on it to prey on people that don't sit 24/7 in sims communities and don't know a free version maintained by the community exists on the internet.

This has nothing to do with preservation of games, celebration of sims or anything like that, its a soulless cash grab.

Every game have a free version when you include piracy

[Greebo]

So just for fun I decided to send my cats out to earn a living, now they've been promoted at work the game crashes every time they come home.