House Forrester, is this a joke?

[Metalsie]

We have here a house, whose holdings are a Tiny "Castle" and the surrounding area, that can't even raise 20 men; being involved with Cersei, Tyrion, Roose Bolton and Jon ♥♥♥♥ing Snow.

The entire game feels unrealistic and pretty much a fanservice for the players to interact in meaningless ways with these important people. I understand that he fans of the HBO show are the main audience, but come on...

Whats worse is the tryhard attempts of the game to present House Forrester as if they're some relevant or mighty house. Its motto is "Iron from Ice", capitals name is "Ironrath" hell they are supposedly so important that Rob Stark trusts them enough to place them on the Vanguard. They should have went and hired Linkin Park to compose their music.

The storyline is ridicilously frustrating, from Episode 1 to 4, I haven't seen a single armed House Forrester soldier. NOT ONE. The Whitehills on the other hand are spawning troops as it seems they have hundreds of them with nothing to justify their presence, as in, their lands are bare of Ironwood.

This "20 good men" ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ has greatly ruined the first 4 episodes for me. What do you guys think?

[Lord_William]

And called a forest/mountain "clan" by Asha. Not even a House, but I guess Asha was just saying they were one of those northern half-primitive clans.

[Meistr755]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Golin:

Forrester is just a small house, sworned and seek protection of the warden of the north, wot do you expect then?

Do does Whitehills, but apparently they can pull soldiers out of thin air and properly arm them despitethe fact that they dont have ironwood and should be much poorer house than Forresters.

[Dongald Jeffreys]

Początkowo opublikowane przez anton_mandrake:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Little Boy Blue:

Do you do anything on here besides whine and ♥♥♥♥♥ about the game?

Do you do anything but whine and ♥♥♥♥♥ about other peoples opinions when they don't agree with yours? Why don't you state your opinion instead of criticizing others for having one.

Haha, THAT'S your comeback? That's funny. I respect people's opinions on the game, but when people like you lurk around here and only proceed to ♥♥♥♥♥ about it, that's when it gets annoying. If you don't like it, don't play it. I don't go to game forums for games I don't like and ♥♥♥♥♥ about them constantly, I just don't play them. Problem solved.

[Fred]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Little Boy Blue:

Początkowo opublikowane przez anton_mandrake:

Do you do anything but whine and ♥♥♥♥♥ about other peoples opinions when they don't agree with yours? Why don't you state your opinion instead of criticizing others for having one.

Haha, THAT'S your comeback? That's funny. I respect people's opinions on the game, but when people like you lurk around here and only proceed to ♥♥♥♥♥ about it, that's when it gets annoying. If you don't like it, don't play it. I don't go to game forums for games I don't like and ♥♥♥♥♥ about them constantly, I just don't play them. Problem solved.

How is respecting someone's opinion amount to you calling them a whiner and a ♥♥♥♥♥? Others refuted my opinion with one of their own, you just made derogatory remarks about me. This is not a forum for those that have only positive views of the game. Since when do I need your permission to state my opinion on something...Get over yourself, I have a right to be here same as you.

[Dongald Jeffreys]

Początkowo opublikowane przez anton_mandrake:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Little Boy Blue:

Haha, THAT'S your comeback? That's funny. I respect people's opinions on the game, but when people like you lurk around here and only proceed to ♥♥♥♥♥ about it, that's when it gets annoying. If you don't like it, don't play it. I don't go to game forums for games I don't like and ♥♥♥♥♥ about them constantly, I just don't play them. Problem solved.

How is respecting someone's opinion amount to you calling them a whiner and a ♥♥♥♥♥? Others refuted my opinion with one of their own, you just made derogatory remarks about me. This is not a forum for those that have only positive views of the game. Since when do I need your permission to state my opinion on something...Get over yourself, I have a right to be here same as you.

Did you read what I put? I said when people like you constantly whine and ♥♥♥♥♥ about the game, it gets annoying. And using your logic, I have a right to say whatever I want to you about your opinions.

[Fred]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Little Boy Blue:

Początkowo opublikowane przez anton_mandrake:

How is respecting someone's opinion amount to you calling them a whiner and a ♥♥♥♥♥? Others refuted my opinion with one of their own, you just made derogatory remarks about me. This is not a forum for those that have only positive views of the game. Since when do I need your permission to state my opinion on something...Get over yourself, I have a right to be here same as you.

Did you read what I put? I said when people like you constantly whine and ♥♥♥♥♥ about the game, it gets annoying. And using your logic, I have a right to say whatever I want to you about your opinions.

As opposed to being a fanboy of the game? You defined the calibur of person you were the instant you insulted me and did not just dispute the statement with one of your own. You trapse around the forum defending the game on every post and then criticize me for doing the same. You are a hypocrite. There I have lowered myself to your level by name calling (after much provocation).

[tonym3701]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Asahi:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Golin:

Forrester is just a small house, sworned and seek protection of the warden of the north, wot do you expect then?

Do does Whitehills, but apparently they can pull soldiers out of thin air and properly arm them despitethe fact that they dont have ironwood and should be much poorer house than Forresters.

Except the Whitelhills are on the side of the Boltons, so it is very likely that they didn't lose any soldiers at the Red Wedding, while the Forresters lots many soldiers.

[Kozzy]

You have no idea what you are on about, House Forrester is mentioned in the books, this game is very much GOT.

[Dongald Jeffreys]

Początkowo opublikowane przez anton_mandrake:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Little Boy Blue:

Did you read what I put? I said when people like you constantly whine and ♥♥♥♥♥ about the game, it gets annoying. And using your logic, I have a right to say whatever I want to you about your opinions.

As opposed to being a fanboy of the game? You defined the calibur of person you were the instant you insulted me and did not just dispute the statement with one of your own. You trapse around the forum defending the game on every post and then criticize me for doing the same. You are a hypocrite. There I have lowered myself to your level by name calling (after much provocation).

Except I don't constantly defend the game. I've given some criticism about it on here (which is different than what you've been doing so far). You haven't even been on here that long and you're trying to make generalizations about me? Okay, kid.

[Gregatron]

i totally see the original poster point but this is the whole point of game of thrones your supposed to feel overwhelmed and helpless anyone who watches the show or reads the book would know this stuff doesnt always go how you want it to in games thrones

[Fred]

Ok little Boy... lol maybe we both need a time out.

[fakecat]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kozzy:

You have no idea what you are on about, House Forrester is mentioned in the books, this game is very much GOT.

Yeah, it was mentioned a single time along with few other meaningless houses, it doesn't make game events canon.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Metalsie:

pretty much a fanservice for the players to interact in meaningless ways with these important people.

Yeah, that's pretty much the truth,.

[tonym3701]

Początkowo opublikowane przez fakecat:

Yeah, it was mentioned a single time along with few other meaningless houses, it doesn't make game events canon.

It's canon for the show, mostly. While the Forresters are mentinoned in the books, the game is clearly set in the show canon.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Metalsie:

pretty much a fanservice for the players to interact in meaningless ways with these important people.

Yeah, that's pretty much the truth,. [/quote]

And concidering how concern you guys are on the "Canon" of the franchise, how would you make a good GoT game without making it non-canon?

This Forrester storyline is the best thing Telltale could do. The lore of ASOIAF is too detailed for them to center the game on major events without it constricting they creative abilities.

[ReallyMeanGoldfish]

Meh, its a story. If you had too large of a presence; the GOT purists would be hollering "herasy". They might even ask GRRMs opinion about it. To which, he would probably eat lemon cakes.

[Lord_William]

Początkowo opublikowane przez tonym3701:

And concidering how concern you guys are on the "Canon" of the franchise, how would you make a good GoT game without making it non-canon?

This Forrester storyline is the best thing Telltale could do. The lore of ASOIAF is too detailed for them to center the game on major events without it constricting they creative abilities.

I would set it in the Blackfyre rebellion, for example, and it's aftermath, and I would involve several houses which are completely fictional and made from the scratch, and they won't happen to enter in contact with Kings, Queens, Wardens, etc.

I liked "The Sworn Sword", I wonder how an incident like that would play in a videogame. And just as it involved absolutely minor houses, you could involve your own small minor houses and thus make irrelevant who survives or who doesn't, even allowing multiple endings (because in the 100 years from that moment on, any or both of those houses may become extinct just by, say, marrying their last female heir to a male heir of another house). This way you could explain why nobody mentioned them in GoT: Either they are simple one not important enough to have played a major role, or they don't exist anymore for whatever the reason.

But people wouldn't like intrigue, combat, machiavellism and personal relations unless those occur surrounding Maergery, Tyrion, Cersei, Bolton, Danaerys, etc.

It's a wonder Eddard hasn't been revived yet just by popular acclaim.