The Traitor - WORST PIECE OF WRITING I"VE EVER SEEN!

[Bard_13]

The worst writing in any telltale game i've ever played. It's either Duncan or Royland and because it's determinant it destroys both characters. Essentially both their reasons are "waah!!. your brother didnt pick me as sentinal wahh!!!", both characters are extremely loyal to House Forrester and yet they backstab you for REASONS lmao......what a joke, this subplot nearly destroyed the entire game for me because it was so poorly written and idiotic.

[Dimebag]

Publicado originalmente por Mysti_Fogg:

So. Exactly what price do you think the Whitehills paid to these men to get them to turn? Because gold is simply not enough, or they would have turned years ago and probably never would have risen to their current positions in the first place.

Were they paid ? Were they threatened ? Hopefully series 2 will enlighten us all on what is transpiring , it could be old fashioned pragmatism ( better to be at the right hand side of the devil than before him ) , it could just be greed or it could be a threat we are unaware of right now . A lot of assumption but until given a chance to clarify in the second season we are all speculating.

[Dagger Ex]

The worst thing about the traitor was mentioned earlier, but not emphasized. I played the game two times, and yes, twice enjoyed it very much. But also Ser Royland was two times the traitor. In the first run, I refused him the sentinel title and never listened to a word he said - in my opinion he was way too aggressive for the situation the House was facing. That made sense, his position and respect within the House has fallen. Finally he has got fed up and turned into House Whitehill.

On the second run... I was a little disappointed. Sure, I made Duncan sentinel, but after this, I've listened to every piece of advise Royland has to offer me. Duncan was left unheard for the whole game, still, Royland betrayed me for the mere title that has been offered to him by a DEAD TEENAGER. The traitor decision should be settled by a percentage of times of backing up one of our two advisors, not by a stupid bracelet that wasn't even Rodrik decision to handle.

[Silent J]

Publicado originalmente por NathanD:

Publicado originalmente por Mysti_Fogg:

So. Exactly what price do you think the Whitehills paid to these men to get them to turn? Because gold is simply not enough, or they would have turned years ago and probably never would have risen to their current positions in the first place.

Were they paid ? Were they threatened ? Hopefully series 2 will enlighten us all on what is transpiring , it could be old fashioned pragmatism ( better to be at the right hand side of the devil than before him ) , it could just be greed or it could be a threat we are unaware of right now . A lot of assumption but until given a chance to clarify in the second season we are all speculating.

You can make any assumptions you want. In fact that is how TTG would prefer it. They do not need to shed any more light on nor add motivations for thier plotholes because you will just buy season 2 and love to post threads about how equally ♥♥♥♥♥ it is. The narrative is not going to make sense at anypoint and they sure are not going to justify to you why they cannot be bothered to do anything more than just rewash the Stark story arc with a new name.

[Dimebag]

Publicado originalmente por R.I.P. Red:

You can make any assumptions you want. In fact that is how TTG would prefer it. They do not need to shed any more light on nor add motivations for thier plotholes because you will just buy season 2 and love to post threads about how equally ♥♥♥♥♥ it is. The narrative is not going to make sense at anypoint and they sure are not going to justify to you why they cannot be bothered to do anything more than just rewash the Stark story arc with a new name.

Cool story . For someone who "hates" this game you seem, to love spending time whinging about it . And everything you just stated is your opinion , as I keep pointing out , you are not representive of the majority of players as they seem more than happy with the game .

Kick and scream , that's all you got .

[Mysti_Fogg]

Publicado originalmente por NathanD:

Publicado originalmente por Mysti_Fogg:

So. Exactly what price do you think the Whitehills paid to these men to get them to turn? Because gold is simply not enough, or they would have turned years ago and probably never would have risen to their current positions in the first place.

Were they paid ? Were they threatened ? Hopefully series 2 will enlighten us all on what is transpiring , it could be old fashioned pragmatism ( better to be at the right hand side of the devil than before him ) , it could just be greed or it could be a threat we are unaware of right now . A lot of assumption but until given a chance to clarify in the second season we are all speculating.

According to them, neither. According to them, they turned coat just because they don't like you and think you're doing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job, even if you actually listened to them as much or more than your sentinel.

[Silent J]

Publicado originalmente por Mysti_Fogg:

According to them, neither. According to them, they turned coat just because they don't like you and think you're doing a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ job, even if you actually listened to them as much or more than your sentinel.

Indeed. It is almost as if:

Publicado originalmente por R.I.P. Red:

You can make any assumptions you want. In fact that is how TTG would prefer it. They do not need to shed any more light on nor add motivations for thier plotholes because you will just buy season 2 and love to post threads about how equally ♥♥♥♥♥ it is. The narrative is not going to make sense at anypoint and they sure are not going to justify to you why they cannot be bothered to do anything more than just rewash the Stark story arc with a new name.

[Fred]

Totally agree with the OP...what sorry writing.

[Shacks]

Yeah have to admit its very meh, Duncan's reasoning seemed utterly unlogical during my playthrough, his council was often listened too and both Rodrik and Ethan played at (or attempted to) play the just Lord, just like The Ned would want (Gotta love the hill-tribes name for Eddard Stark :P). Whilst they both always tried to act from a position of strength they both attempted diplomacy and just mercy in everything. Especially the bit where he's like yeah I released Griff...I mean wut.... Thats effectively signing House Forester's death-note, removing their only strong bargaining chip/leverage. I was convinced from like episode 2 the Maester had sold them out, due to his insitence on trying to sell the lions share of their Ironwood share, plus it made a helluva lot more sense than either Duncan or my sentinel geezer. Ah well, beside that so far I've found the plot much less rubbish than I expected, minor gripes over Telltale's geography aside. I actually wasen't too slapped in the face by the archetypical familarity with the Stark's plot which I'm pleasently surprised about. To be honest considering it's covering the events from AFFC roughly life in the north would be bloody nasty for any former Stark loyalists. Especially ones out in the arse end of the north like those in the Wolfswood. Though I did wonder why noone ever sought to beesech their immediate overlords the Glovers for aid in the early chapters prior to Asha taking Deepwood.

[Lucius Olden]

At least in three episodes Maester Ortengryn asked us to surrender, to agree with Whitehill's demands and even to give them all iron wood to save the family. He is a calm man to be suspected by others, who visited most of lord's discussions. He isn't even Northman. I mean the whole story cries: "Traitor, traitor". But in the end... Oh, well, we have two crybabies here, who tries to save the House through the cooperation with greedy murders. Yes, Telltale, that seems legit.

[Arthur]

"your choices matter" lol yeah... telltale will always get away with stuff like this.

[Cezzarion]

Publicado originalmente por Giants With Class:

You can make any assumptions you want. In fact that is how TTG would prefer it. They do not need to shed any more light on nor add motivations for thier plotholes because you will just buy season 2 and love to post threads about how equally ♥♥♥♥♥ it is. The narrative is not going to make sense at anypoint and they sure are not going to justify to you why they cannot be bothered to do anything more than just rewash the Stark story arc with a new name.

I swear, the guy you're talking to can't take any criticism about this game, he doesn't even try to come up with solid arguments, when everything shows the laziness of the writing... As said above, I thought the most logical traitor would have been the Maester (and I'm still looking for his true purpose in this game...) :/

[Silent J]

Publicado originalmente por andrewlebarbare:

Publicado originalmente por Giants With Class:

You can make any assumptions you want. In fact that is how TTG would prefer it. They do not need to shed any more light on nor add motivations for thier plotholes because you will just buy season 2 and love to post threads about how equally ♥♥♥♥♥ it is. The narrative is not going to make sense at anypoint and they sure are not going to justify to you why they cannot be bothered to do anything more than just rewash the Stark story arc with a new name.

I swear, the guy you're talking to can't take any criticism about this game, he doesn't even try to come up with solid arguments, when everything shows the laziness of the writing... As said above, I thought the most logical traitor would have been the Maester (and I'm still looking for his true purpose in this game...) :/

Are you daft? I do nothing BUT criticise this game. I have nothing but contempt for the writers the animators and the managers who allowed the bad writing and animations make it into production. You woke up this dead as ♥♥♥♥ thread to say something about me while making no good points or arguements yourself and seeming not even to be aware of what it is about me you don't like. By all means criticise the game. Crituque it till you are blue in the face. I wont stop you or even argue with you. Kindly leave me out of your absurd ramblings in the future though.

[Regeta]

This was one of the biggest plotholes I have ever seen.

This sums up how stupid TellTale's writers are. (See 2 images below)

No lie, a teen fan-fiction writer could come up with better stuff than this on their first try, never having written anything before in their life.

DUNCAN

http://i.imgur.com/OCyIVay.jpg

ROYLAND

http://i.imgur.com/EGjJHxl.jpg



I won't even begin to mention the fact the "finale" was literally a pointless, meaningless (not to mention short) advertisement for Season 2. It was nothing but an advertisement...

♥♥♥♥ TellTale if they think we're buying Season 2. No one will, and no one should. Show them with your wallets that this horrible writing is

UNACCEPTABLE!!!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/QUaqJRizED5NC/200_s.gif

[Май нейм из Джефь]

the irony was that i chose Royland preciesly because i agreed more with Duncan and i wanted an advisor who would have a different point of view from mine to provide me with a fuller picture of decisions faced. i felt Duncan fllipping on the player was absurdly uncharacteristic to what they made out him to be. it may have been an attempt at making an intriguing plot twist, but instead it felt like a cheap cop out to make up for lack of writing imagination

[Regeta]

It is as much "an attempt atmaking an intriguing plot twist" as the final episode having all dead characters suddenly come back and say "I never died! JK! The traitor was actually reviving us through traitor-necromancy!" then immediately give you victory, rather than an entire episode that is nothing more than an advertisement for Season 2.