wtf is up with the reviews?

[Artur Ditu]

we all know this game is good. also it has a "very positive" score. What's up with all the negative reviews on thr front page?!

[Cattaneo]

Originally posted by MidBoss 2064:

It's all culture war stuff - they don't like the "politics" of the game :O

That seems like a rather close minded view of things. Saying that the reason people don't like your game is because of politics seems like a cop-out. I'm looking right at the reviews, and a solid number of them have genuine grievances about the nature of the game play and writing. You shouldn't just ignore that and claim that it's "culture war" that's just lazy. I didn't like the game because of its writing, but it has nothing to do with its politics. You'll never improve game development if you just blame bad reviews on "culture wars"

[Knuti]

Originally posted by Cattaneo:

Originally posted by MidBoss 2064:

It's all culture war stuff - they don't like the "politics" of the game :O

That seems like a rather close minded view of things. Saying that the reason people don't like your game is because of politics seems like a cop-out. I'm looking right at the reviews, and a solid number of them have genuine grievances about the nature of the game play and writing. You shouldn't just ignore that and claim that it's "culture war" that's just lazy. I didn't like the game because of its writing, but it has nothing to do with its politics. You'll never improve game development if you just blame bad reviews on "culture wars"

Saying it has "nothing" to do with politics is just plain false. Politics (i.e. the usual group on the internet that's offended by anything liberal) is one (not "the only") reason why negative reviews get marked as helpful.

Again, I'm not saying that's your reason but arguing "That's not my reason and therefore everyone else is the same" is just logically flawed.

[Cattaneo]

Originally posted by Knuti:

Originally posted by Cattaneo:

That seems like a rather close minded view of things. Saying that the reason people don't like your game is because of politics seems like a cop-out. I'm looking right at the reviews, and a solid number of them have genuine grievances about the nature of the game play and writing. You shouldn't just ignore that and claim that it's "culture war" that's just lazy. I didn't like the game because of its writing, but it has nothing to do with its politics. You'll never improve game development if you just blame bad reviews on "culture wars"

Saying it has "nothing" to do with politics is just plain false. Politics (i.e. the usual group on the internet that's offended by anything liberal) is one (not "the only") reason why negative reviews get marked as helpful.

Again, I'm not saying that's your reason but arguing "That's not my reason and therefore everyone else is the same" is just logically flawed.

I genuninely surprised anyone replied. this threads old as ♥♥♥♥. Regardless, if you look at the review page, the majority of the helpful negative reviews have nothing to do with politics. Anyway it hardley matters, this thread is long dead.

[Aquilar]

Originally posted by MidBoss 2064:

It's all culture war stuff - they don't like the "politics" of the game :O

thats putting it lightly, this not because of what happened, it because people as a whole are starting to boil and seeth, being generally fed up with the highly vocal somewhat influential minority can not seem to stop complaining about everything and destroying everything they can not control directly themselves. It might be far too late to save what is left. But in small words, there is no longer a peaceful solution anymore, it's fight or perish now.
"For thee who desires security over freedom, shall have neither."

I found the story of the game heart moving to say the atleast, I might have a soft soul, it made me cry a couple of times, it runs deep, especially Jess' backstory somethign I can relate too.

[Artur Ditu]

At this point this post is somewhat irrelevant since the reviews on the front page are all positive but there was a point when the game was on humble bundle and it god flooded with bad reviews. It still read "very positive" under the description but every review you would see at the bottom of the page was pure hate. That's why i was like wtf?!

I don't even get all the effort, i mean yo get a game from a bundle for 80% what is worth and not any bundle, one with Her Story and Cibele! So why even bother buying the bundle if those game are clearly not your cop of tea.

[Link]

I remember hearing that we weren't going to be able to review games we didn't get directly through Steam at some point. I'm sure stuff like this was a reason for that, less reviews from people who didn't want the game in the first place, and more negative reviews from people who wanted the game but ended up disliking it.

Which, y'know, would suck for me since most of my purchases are through bundles or 3rd party sites (like Humble Bundle's store or itch.io), but still.

[SonarPup]

Originally posted by Link:

I remember hearing that we weren't going to be able to review games we didn't get directly through Steam at some point. I'm sure stuff like this was a reason for that, less reviews from people who didn't want the game in the first place, and more negative reviews from people who wanted the game but ended up disliking it.

Which, y'know, would suck for me since most of my purchases are through bundles or 3rd party sites (like Humble Bundle's store or itch.io), but still.

I mean, the reviews let you sort by who got it through a key and who actually paid through Steam.

[funkydinosaurs]

It's been what, two and a half years since Gamergate exploded and then fizzled out immediately? But there's still a damn culture crusade everytime any game comes out because one group or another thinks it's offensive or disgusting or whatever. ROM is a cool game and people put off by the fact that there's so many LGBT characters and themes... probably should have noticed that the game takes place in Neo-San Fransisco...

The kinds of people who give bad reviews or mass-downvote games or whatever that they haven't actually played are the worst. I know they're mostly teenagers reveling in their histrionics but it's still eternally annoying.

[Link]

Originally posted by The Inevitable Decay of Society:

Gamergate exploded and then fizzled out

I'd say they just evolved into something else... RE: Politics RE: Let's not have this discussion though.

[Artur Ditu]

What's Gamergate?

[lunatear]

Originally posted by Artur Ditu:

What's Gamergate?

#GamerGate is an online movement ostensibly concerned with ethics in game journalism and with protecting the "gamer" identity. It revolved around Zoe Quinn, and the threats and accusations against her by fellow journalists.

[mdgeist3]

I was thinking about buying this game because it reminds me of Snatcher on Sega CD. Then I noticed how SJWie and how much it was in the identity politics and decided to pass. I think I will stick with Shadowrun Returns.

[Artur Ditu]

Originally posted by mdgeist3:

I was thinking about buying this game because it reminds me of Snatcher on Sega CD. Then I noticed how SJWie and how much it was in the identity politics and decided to pass. I think I will stick with Shadowrun Returns.

If you like Snatchers this is the game for you. It rocks. There's nothing SJW about it. Poeple are dumb.

[SonarPup]

Because it's not like Trump supporters *ever* disparage others /s.
They have views that come up in the game and gained them traction with GSM (IIRC at least one of the devs is gay and at least one is trans*) - Trump has so far done GSM folks no favors, considering his VP is "pray away the gay" Pence, not to mention some of the others he's put into power and how conservative some of his more vocal supporters are.

It makes sense for them to say something like this. Anyone who voted for Trump and is GSM is an idiot, and anyone who voted for him and isn't GSM either isn't familiar with the issues or willingly gave GSM people a big middle finger - thus they probably wouldn't enjoy this game's exploration of diverse characters anyway.

*Quick clarification: GSM stands for Gender and Sexual Minorities, just an easier thing to say than LGBTQ, which keeps getting letters added and is honestly at this point kinda excessively long and specific.

[Cattaneo]

Why are you necroing this thread?