VEGAS Movie Studio 13 Platinum - Steam Powered

VEGAS Movie Studio 13 Platinum - Steam Powered

rebus_forever Feb 27, 2017 @ 10:01am
trying to make a 2k 60 fps template but recieving an invalid argument error when rendering?
for context 5820k system with decent ram and gpu, win 10

the settings i am using or rather trying to use are


Video format: AVC
Fame Size, custon: 2560 x 1440
Profile: high
Entropy: CABAC
Frame rate: Double NTSC 59.940
Field Order: none
Pxel Aspect: 1,0000
Bitrate: 25,999,360
Slices:1
encode using cpu only
enabled prog dl enabled


Im sure this is user error but any suggestions would be very helpful.
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wakeme Feb 27, 2017 @ 12:09pm 
good question ,
i had to test it out .
Read below for the answer .

i use CPU only , for
quality rendering and stabiltiy .

MS13P
recommend using "Avanced Edit mode" .
big icon near upper left .


summary :
4 render options :

.mp4 ( the codec is still h.264 )
Main Concept AVC\AAC ,...internet HD 1080p
can render out as 1920 x 1080 at 60 fps Progressive Scan .

.mp4 ( the codec is still h.264 )
Main Concept AVC\AAC ,...internet HD 1080p
can render out as 4k 3840 x 2160 at 60 fps Progressive Scan .

.m2ts ( the codec is still h.264 )
Sony AVC\MVC AVCHD ( AVCHD gives the .m2ts file name suffix )
can render out as 1920 x 1080 , at 59.94 fps Progressive Scan

.mp4 ( the codec is still h.264 )
Sony XAVC-S
can render out as 3840 x 2160 , at 59.94 fps Progressive Scan



menu "Project" ( upper left )
Project-->Properties then Video Tab

Full Resolution Rendering Quality choose "Best"

Deinterlace method choose "None" , when source footage is Progressive Scan
Deinterlace method choose "Blend" , when source footage is Interlaced

MS13P
you can force MS13P to "Match Media"
it will set the Project-->Properties of
Frame Rate , interlace method , and pixel aspect ratio
to be the same as your source footage , into the Project-->Properties Video Tab .
You will still need to manually set "Best" , and ( "None" or "Blend" )
as described above .

to render 1920 x 1080 60 fps Progressive scan :
the big "Make Movie" icon is located just above the time line
click "Make Movie" icon
click "save it to my hard drive" text string
click "Advanced Options" button
click on the Left Pane "Main Concept AVC\AAC"
click on the Right Pane "Internet HD 1080p"
click on the now highlighted , "Customize Template" button
manually type into the Frame Rate box ,... 60
choose 2 pass rendering .
MAX bit rate 20 Mbps , or what ever you want
Avg bit rate 16 Mbps , or what ever you want
Be sure to name your .mp4 file
Be sure to set the hard drive path to where the file gets written to .
click "Render" button , to start Rendering .
the audio is AAC 2 channel stereo , 16 bit 48 khz .

Windows and MS13P
both confirm the .mp4 video that is renderd with Main Concept's codec ,
as shown above , really is 60 fps Progressive Scan video .

If the Sony AVC\MVC codec is used ,
it will render out at 59.94 fps Progressive Scan , as .m2ts
there is No option to type 60 , into the Frame Rate digit box .


to render 4k 3840 x 2160 ,
you can use
Sony XAVC-S codec 59.94 fps Progressive Scan .m2ts ,
or you can use
Main Concept AVC\AAC internet HD 1080p codec 60 fps Progressive Scan .mp4 .
( choose Custom and type in 3840 x 2160 ) into the two resolution boxes .


by default , the Entire Time Line will get rendered .
you can make a Time Line selection , and then render "just the selected portion"


Note :
60i NTSC is another name for 29.97 fps interlaced
and , 59.94 is Double 29.97
the same interpretation , applies to 50i PAL .


If you want 2.0 Dolby or 5.1 Dolby audio with your rendering , then use the Sony codecs.
XAVC-S is stereo only .
Last edited by wakeme; Feb 27, 2017 @ 1:24pm
wakeme Feb 27, 2017 @ 12:13pm 
quick note :

With the Sony AVC\MVC render Template , choose AVCHD .
when you choose AVCHD , the file name extension becomes .m2ts .

you don't want .avc
Last edited by wakeme; Feb 27, 2017 @ 12:15pm
Nowinskit Feb 27, 2017 @ 12:41pm 
SonyAVC do not support 1440p, the limit should be 1080p i guess. For 1440p go with Mainconcept template.
wakeme Feb 27, 2017 @ 1:21pm 
Main Concept AVC\AAC internet HD 1080p codec
does render at 2560 x 1440 60 fps Progressive Scan . Six Zero fps
as .mp4
i used 2 pass at 20 Mbps Max and 16 Mbps average .

i just did it .
rebus_forever Feb 27, 2017 @ 1:22pm 
Sorry for being so new, may you explain the process for obtaining the mainconcept templat, im looking around their site not really sure about anything, sorry.
rebus_forever Feb 27, 2017 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by wakeme:
Main Concept AVC\AAC internet HD 1080p codec
does render at 2560 x 1440 60 fps Progressive Scan . Six Zero fps
as .mp4
i used 2 pass at 20 Mbps Max and 16 Mbps average .

i just did it .

I will try this now, ty.
rebus_forever Feb 27, 2017 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by wakeme:
Main Concept AVC\AAC internet HD 1080p codec
does render at 2560 x 1440 60 fps Progressive Scan . Six Zero fps
as .mp4
i used 2 pass at 20 Mbps Max and 16 Mbps average .

i just did it .


Rendering now as per your setting, if it all comes out good, ty so much.
infact thanks to everyone that has contributed, every version i tried failed
wakeme Feb 27, 2017 @ 1:38pm 
use MS13P to "look at your rendered .mp4" .
it should show as 2560 x 1440 60 fps Progressive scan , AVC

also , using Windows , Right Click-->Properties Details Tab ,
should show 2560 x 1440 with a bit rate and 60 fps .
Last edited by wakeme; Feb 27, 2017 @ 1:46pm
Grandmaster Ark Mar 20, 2017 @ 3:44am 
I wanna do the same thing, but in 1080p 60, but for whatever reason I can't open the Advanced Settings when I Make Movie. It keeps saying "An Invalid Argument was specified." when I try to open it.
rebus_forever Mar 20, 2017 @ 5:52am 
hmm, you are choosing mp4 and then advanced options right? not sure that makes a difference but just checking, have to you tried varifying the game cache to make sure you dont have any errors with your install, might be worth doing.
rebus_forever Mar 20, 2017 @ 5:54am 
To everyone else, once again ty, if its of any interest this is what you have helped make possible :D
Im still learning but as yall helped maybe you will get some gratification from this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yC2qkZCm6A
Lambda Mar 30, 2017 @ 11:28am 
Here's what i use for 1440p (2k)

Frame size: 2560x1440

Profile: Main

Frame rate: 60

no allowed source to adjust frame rate

pixel aspect ratio 1.0000

Number of reference frames: 2 no use deblocking filter

Variable bit rate: Max 24,000,000
Average 24,000,000
Number of slices 4

Encode CUDA

no progressive download.

hope this helped :D
Lambda Mar 30, 2017 @ 11:30am 
Originally posted by TheCatWithAPlan:
Here's what i use for 1440p (2k)

Frame size: 2560x1440

Profile: Main

Frame rate: 60

no allowed source to adjust frame rate

pixel aspect ratio 1.0000

Number of reference frames: 2 no use deblocking filter

Variable bit rate: Max 24,000,000
Average 24,000,000
Number of slices 4

Encode CUDA

no progressive download.

hope this helped :D

and if you need to know how to keyframe or "text motion" then i'll be happy to help :D
Skuf Sep 13, 2017 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by wakeme:
Main Concept AVC\AAC internet HD 1080p codec
does render at 2560 x 1440 60 fps Progressive Scan . Six Zero fps
as .mp4
i used 2 pass at 20 Mbps Max and 16 Mbps average .

i just did it .


I love you. I was getting so damn frustrated trying to render my video.
wakeme Sep 13, 2017 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by Skuf:
Originally posted by wakeme:
Main Concept AVC\AAC internet HD 1080p codec
does render at 2560 x 1440 60 fps Progressive Scan . Six Zero fps
as .mp4
i used 2 pass at 20 Mbps Max and 16 Mbps average .

i just did it .


I love you. I was getting so damn frustrated trying to render my video.

P.S.
i think part of the scenario is to also manually Type 60 , for fps in
Project-->Properties ..


next ,
to avoid\prevent re-sampling :

Source footage needs to be 60 fps ( and , am assuming Progressive scan source )
Project Properties needs to be set to 60 fps
Project Properties Progressive scan
Project Properties Blend , set to NONE
Render Template of mainConcept needs to be set to 60 fps .
Last edited by wakeme; Sep 13, 2017 @ 12:44pm
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