kickstarter exclusive playable character

[Tíu]

Will it be possible to acquire this character later through DLC? and what would this unique character be?

I just learned about this game from steam, and I was really surprised playing the demo, so much so that I already got a copy of the game

[Bafbegagglestick]

I hope so, I hate the idea of being locked out of a character just because I didn't hear about a game early enough.

[Burdpal]

Originally posted by Bafbegagglestick:

I hope so, I hate the idea of being locked out of a character just because I didn't hear about a game early enough.

I hate the idea of anything being locked out for future players.

This is why I liked Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. The developers released the exclusive Kickstarter bonus as a $10.00 DLC item. I bought the game and all the DLC in a heartbeat because I knew I wouldn't feel left out for getting to the party late.

It might seem small, but it's pretty demoralizing to not be able to enjoy all the content of a game simply due to the fact that I did not hear about a great game via some of my friends or some random coworker banter.

[Kakaroto]

Originally posted by Burd!:

Originally posted by Bafbegagglestick:

I hope so, I hate the idea of being locked out of a character just because I didn't hear about a game early enough.

I hate the idea of anything being locked out for future players.

This is why I liked Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. The developers released the exclusive Kickstarter bonus as a $10.00 DLC item. I bought the game and all the DLC in a heartbeat because I knew I wouldn't feel left out for getting to the party late.

It might seem small, but it's pretty demoralizing to not be able to enjoy all the content of a game simply due to the fact that I did not hear about a great game via some of my friends or some random coworker banter.

+1

[Magnus]

I won't be buying this game anymore after learning this. The devs probably won't respond to this problem. Thank you for informing me.

[Rykari]

Use your head. Where's the benefit in them for making an entire class available only to kickstarters only? This gives them neither money nor new player support

They'll release it as DLC, don't worry.

They probably just mean that kickstarters get exclusive access to a DLC character ahead of schedule. Whine about it when you own & Have played the game.

[Neco the Sergal]

I'd hope that they don't release it to anyone else, it's a Kickstarter Exclusive, Exclusive is as the word means. I supported the game at the start of 2015 when no one else knew it existed. It is only thanks to the Kickstarters that the game is alive in 2019, if the Kickstarter didn't succeed then the chances that the game would be shelved is obvious.

It's the same as Warframe, and I'm happy the developers didn't bend over to the screaming babies for that game, that the Founder Exclusives remained exclusive, other developers of course bend and that's what many here seem to hope happens except for those who Paid for said exclusives. I backed it for the very reason of wanting something Exclusive to show off how I supported the game from the start. Others are just angry that they'd be jealous to the point of making unjustifiable demands that they be let in the Kickstarter club when they didn't Kickstart the game.

Demanding Exclusive Content that you didn't earn, buy, or acquire, be given to you under the guise of 'or else' is always pathetic.

Kickstarter Backers get Exclusive Gears (Alternate skins for characters), Divine Relics and, if enough was paid, the Exclusive Character.

[AuburnRDM]

Originally posted by Neco the Sergal:

Demanding Exclusive Content that you didn't earn, buy, or acquire, be given to you under the guise of 'or else' is always pathetic.

I'm sure is will cost money if they release it. Kickstarter exclusives were a nice idea back then, but they really don't work out in practice. Most developers usually find a middle ground between the backers and the new customers. It's not an issue when it's purely cosmetic, but when it's gameplay related it definitely becomes unfair to new supporters.

[Neco the Sergal]

Originally posted by AuburnRDM:

Originally posted by Neco the Sergal:

Demanding Exclusive Content that you didn't earn, buy, or acquire, be given to you under the guise of 'or else' is always pathetic.

I'm sure is will cost money if they release it. Kickstarter exclusives were a nice idea back then, but they really don't work out in practice. Most developers usually find a middle ground between the backers and the new customers. It's not an issue when it's purely cosmetic, but when it's gameplay related it definitely becomes unfair to new supporters.

Costing money isn't the point. It's about Customer Loyalty and keeping promises, a company that can't keep their promises aren't a good one. Pandering to demands, to break promises, all just to ensure a handful of people crying for something get what they want? Saying the ends justifies the means even if it's a broken promises to their original customers is flimsy and selfish.

But as it would be obvious, I disagree completely, it's not 'Unfair' and how you argue your point is still selfish. You claim it 'Unfairness of not being given everything', but you seem to not care about the Unfairness that it would create towards the Kickstarter backers, for them to lose Exclusive Content. You don't care if it's unfair to us if we lose what was promised to us, but only concern yourself with what you feel is unfair to You - and everyone in the way be damned, Eh?

What has to be understood is that of the 6 playable characters, all of them are the Bergson family members. The 7th 'Family Friend' would not exist in this game today if they never went to Kickstarter. The 7th Character being exclusive is because they shoehorned him to fit the story (Probably in vague ways) so as to entice Kickstarter sales. Canon-wise to the lore and story of the game, the 7th character probably doesn't exist, besides Gameplay/Combat and nothing else.

[AuburnRDM]

I think you missed the whole point of my post about finding a middle ground.

[Cyiel]

I agree with AuburnRDM. If it was cosmetics i would accept it but gameplay related for me it is a no. I will try the game tomorow, and i'm sure i will have fun but still i will ask for a refund. I already don't support gameboards with kickstarter exclusives and the same goes for video games.

If one day they release this character as DLC i will gladly come back.

[GiveMeCake]

Originally posted by Burd!:

Originally posted by Bafbegagglestick:

I hope so, I hate the idea of being locked out of a character just because I didn't hear about a game early enough.

I hate the idea of anything being locked out for future players.

This is why I liked Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. The developers released the exclusive Kickstarter bonus as a $10.00 DLC item. I bought the game and all the DLC in a heartbeat because I knew I wouldn't feel left out for getting to the party late.

It might seem small, but it's pretty demoralizing to not be able to enjoy all the content of a game simply due to the fact that I did not hear about a great game via some of my friends or some random coworker banter.

Some things I'm reading in this thread actually hurt my brain. You are OK with paying $10 (1/3rd) the price of the game, for 1 character?!?!?

People like you are why things are so messed up and why devs get away with pulling content out of their games and offering day 1 DLC.

[A-CRKT-0192]

Originally posted by GiveMeCake:

Originally posted by Burd!:

I hate the idea of anything being locked out for future players.

This is why I liked Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. The developers released the exclusive Kickstarter bonus as a $10.00 DLC item. I bought the game and all the DLC in a heartbeat because I knew I wouldn't feel left out for getting to the party late.

It might seem small, but it's pretty demoralizing to not be able to enjoy all the content of a game simply due to the fact that I did not hear about a great game via some of my friends or some random coworker banter.

Some things I'm reading in this thread actually hurt my brain. You are OK with paying $10 (1/3rd) the price of the game, for 1 character?!?!?

People like you are why things are so messed up and why devs get away with pulling content out of their games and offering day 1 DLC.

I think 10 dollars was arbitrary number as an example, feel like you might be wasting your energy on what was not intended as fact.

Originally posted by Neco the Sergal:

Originally posted by AuburnRDM:

I'm sure is will cost money if they release it. Kickstarter exclusives were a nice idea back then, but they really don't work out in practice. Most developers usually find a middle ground between the backers and the new customers. It's not an issue when it's purely cosmetic, but when it's gameplay related it definitely becomes unfair to new supporters.

Costing money isn't the point. It's about Customer Loyalty and keeping promises, a company that can't keep their promises aren't a good one. Pandering to demands, to break promises, all just to ensure a handful of people crying for something get what they want? Saying the ends justifies the means even if it's a broken promises to their original customers is flimsy and selfish.

But as it would be obvious, I disagree completely, it's not 'Unfair' and how you argue your point is still selfish. You claim it 'Unfairness of not being given everything', but you seem to not care about the Unfairness that it would create towards the Kickstarter backers, for them to lose Exclusive Content. You don't care if it's unfair to us if we lose what was promised to us, but only concern yourself with what you feel is unfair to You - and everyone in the way be damned, Eh?

What has to be understood is that of the 6 playable characters, all of them are the Bergson family members. The 7th 'Family Friend' would not exist in this game today if they never went to Kickstarter. The 7th Character being exclusive is because they shoehorned him to fit the story (Probably in vague ways) so as to entice Kickstarter sales. Canon-wise to the lore and story of the game, the 7th character probably doesn't exist, besides Gameplay/Combat and nothing else.

Who gives a ♥♥♥♥. Let's be real here, the only reason you all got it because you heard about it via kickstarter. The only reason you're defending a gatekeeping practice is because you feel attacked.."BUT THEY SAID EXCLUSIVE!" It still is, you don't have to put anymore money towards the game and get the content immediately. That's exclusive. You say you want to support the developers but at the same time deny them ability to create more revenue for another game because of the mentality "It's mine not yours!".

[LaeLena]

Originally posted by Neco the Sergal:

I'd hope that they don't release it to anyone else, it's a Kickstarter Exclusive, Exclusive is as the word means. I supported the game at the start of 2015 when no one else knew it existed. It is only thanks to the Kickstarters that the game is alive in 2019, if the Kickstarter didn't succeed then the chances that the game would be shelved is obvious.

It's the same as Warframe, and I'm happy the developers didn't bend over to the screaming babies for that game, that the Founder Exclusives remained exclusive, other developers of course bend and that's what many here seem to hope happens except for those who Paid for said exclusives. I backed it for the very reason of wanting something Exclusive to show off how I supported the game from the start. Others are just angry that they'd be jealous to the point of making unjustifiable demands that they be let in the Kickstarter club when they didn't Kickstart the game.

Demanding Exclusive Content that you didn't earn, buy, or acquire, be given to you under the guise of 'or else' is always pathetic.

Kickstarter Backers get Exclusive Gears (Alternate skins for characters), Divine Relics and, if enough was paid, the Exclusive Character.

I have no problem with backers getting exclusive stuff like titles, cosmetics, a free mount, head start or other things like that.. but there is something seriously wrong with locking full characters or other gameplay permanently away from non-backers. I'm ok with Warframe's exclusives, because Primes are just different version of the base weapons and frame so it isn't like new players are missing out on anything special there. I mean Excalibur Prime plays the same as my normal Excalibur.

[Darkness]

I'm not very fond of the idea, but it's safe to say the game feels 100% complete without this character.

[Averagedog]

It may be stupid of the developers to promise in the first place as a fully exclusive character, but I will defend their right to do it. Years ago Riot Games sold supposedly exclusive games that were marketed and promised to be as Exclusive. A few years later they made them much less exclusive and pretty much drew straws and forced a worker to take the blame. Before that point I had already spent like 1000 on League of Legends. After they lost the trust of the customers who bought content marketed as exclusive, their mind was likely "♥♥♥♥ the customers of before we are looking for the customers of the future."

I dislike that very much and I don't know enough about these devs for this specific game to know for sure. However, If they made this exclusive promise and stick to their guns and keep that character exclusive, My respect for t hem will be much higher than if they made that character available for everyone to acquire if it was originally marketed to be exclusive. I probably won't buy their game if they make the exclusive character available without getting majority support from the backers.