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This game is dangerous and should be banned
Especially with the increase in violence towards women by incels
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GrimLordGames 9 ABR a las 6:36 p. m. 
So this is great. We have the old fashioned social justice warrior who claims these games are harmful according to society. They make men violent and could cause rape. The state claims them wrong socially. Then we have the moral justice warrior who claims these games are immoral. They offend God and his moral statutes.

This is how the left and right wings of America work. They're both the same bird and they both want to censor the content you consume due to their own personal values.
GrimLordGames 9 ABR a las 6:36 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Life cistern:
Publicado originalmente por GrimLordGames:
Yeah and it always should be. As long as a thing is legal, it's fine. That's how it was growing up too. If someone got upset you said "free country" as a kid. They got over it. We used to say this stuff all the time. Men and women fought and died so that we could consume legal content.

You're a grade A degenerate.

You're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ right. And don't you forget it, buddy.
SlayMeRayne 9 ABR a las 6:53 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por GrimLordGames:
Publicado originalmente por SlayMeRayne:

Comparing horror games, mystery games, and cozy games to forcing your mom, aunt, and siblings to sleep with you is wild work there buddy. Lol. Idc about NSFW games. I've personally never been lonely enough to play them, but if that's your thing, cool. However, this is just straight up lame, embarrassing, and dangerous.

Like, it's getting THAT bad that you're starting to fantasize about mom? Idk big bro. A bit too much there. You'd prob get more respect just owning the depravity vs being defensive about it. PC gamers taking another L as usual

Alright, bro. So let me explain this to you since you're totally clueless. The demographic for these games is about 30/40+ and even the Japanese ones are going up to 27+ so it's mainly a lot of older guys that play these. If you don't like these games, that's fine - but adult fantasy game =/= real world relationships. Just like Jason slashing people isn't equal to real mass murder. And I have a sinking feeling that the reason why a lot of guys like the mommy dommy stuff so much is because the mommy characters are actually their own ages. Especially the AVN market. Now with hentai games that's a younger market but you get fights between the hentai people because they think the AVN models look like old ladies and the AVN people think the hentai characters look like kids. Hence why they prefer the older looking characters and those are very popular.

A lot of the guys that play these are in fact, married. Yep. I know the guys in one server go out to the bars all the time and post their pints as they talk about stuff like sports and movies, popular celebrity women, all that old men talk. Some of these guys couldn't even be bothered with the anime stuff. Want nothing to do with it. Oh and the guys who make a lot of these are married too. The wife often gives her support. I dunno anything about this dev though, but those I've met have been cool, down to earth guys and gals for the most part. It's fantasy. No man around here is walking around with like eight women in a harem. That sounds like a headache to me. I'm forty years old and I can tell you all about that haha.

Don't knock the hobby. I'm not gonna knock that new whack ass anime ya'll kids are into. Shonen ain't been good since Fist Of The North Star. But I respect what ya'll like. Ain't none of the older folks buying this are interested in throwing their old ladies around. Let's think with some sense. Just like the ladies that play the torture and drugging men games aren't going to do that in real life either. People have some pretty crazy fetishes, but we're also able to know right from wrong. I might like to browse the horror section, but I'm not about to try to be Jason.

I get it, this one's too much for a lot of people. Cool. But that doesn't mean we knock the whole genre. I mean, damn. It ain't that real.
A hobby that includes wacking off to your mom lmao. Dude is really trying to dissect this conversation to prove why it's normal. I know the feds would have a field day on your pc
GrimLordGames 9 ABR a las 6:58 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por SlayMeRayne:
Publicado originalmente por GrimLordGames:

Alright, bro. So let me explain this to you since you're totally clueless. The demographic for these games is about 30/40+ and even the Japanese ones are going up to 27+ so it's mainly a lot of older guys that play these. If you don't like these games, that's fine - but adult fantasy game =/= real world relationships. Just like Jason slashing people isn't equal to real mass murder. And I have a sinking feeling that the reason why a lot of guys like the mommy dommy stuff so much is because the mommy characters are actually their own ages. Especially the AVN market. Now with hentai games that's a younger market but you get fights between the hentai people because they think the AVN models look like old ladies and the AVN people think the hentai characters look like kids. Hence why they prefer the older looking characters and those are very popular.

A lot of the guys that play these are in fact, married. Yep. I know the guys in one server go out to the bars all the time and post their pints as they talk about stuff like sports and movies, popular celebrity women, all that old men talk. Some of these guys couldn't even be bothered with the anime stuff. Want nothing to do with it. Oh and the guys who make a lot of these are married too. The wife often gives her support. I dunno anything about this dev though, but those I've met have been cool, down to earth guys and gals for the most part. It's fantasy. No man around here is walking around with like eight women in a harem. That sounds like a headache to me. I'm forty years old and I can tell you all about that haha.

Don't knock the hobby. I'm not gonna knock that new whack ass anime ya'll kids are into. Shonen ain't been good since Fist Of The North Star. But I respect what ya'll like. Ain't none of the older folks buying this are interested in throwing their old ladies around. Let's think with some sense. Just like the ladies that play the torture and drugging men games aren't going to do that in real life either. People have some pretty crazy fetishes, but we're also able to know right from wrong. I might like to browse the horror section, but I'm not about to try to be Jason.

I get it, this one's too much for a lot of people. Cool. But that doesn't mean we knock the whole genre. I mean, damn. It ain't that real.
A hobby that includes wacking off to your mom lmao. Dude is really trying to dissect this conversation to prove why it's normal. I know the feds would have a field day on your pc

Dude, there's about five thousand of those. None of us take it seriously. Also the feds? I know several of them. They're honestly worried about real traffickers and terrorists rather than what is on someone's PC. And nope, I'm clean as far as what you'd think I have. Hell, you can check the PC yourself. After you've seen the thirty thousandth female bodybuilder, you'd be like okay, I'm done with this. How can guys even like women that muscular? 😆
Andrew R 9 ABR a las 7:02 p. m. 
My Mom always said, "Most of the girls who are in those films end up killing themselves."
GrimLordGames 9 ABR a las 7:08 p. m. 
Also, what this guy doesn't get because he's I guess some zoomer with no sense of how anything works, is that these mommy characters, they don't look like you know - my mother or your mother. My mother is seventy years of age and I'd assure you I'm not into that. Haha. But a lot of these mommy characters look like hot women in their thirties/forties. I've already said I'm forty. I just like the look of the character. The mommy stuff is as silly as anything else. And it's always "stepmother." And yep, the girls that record the voices for these ladies are cool with it and they get it's a fetish. Just like when you have girls that call a guy "daddy." That ain't creepy to you bro? Make it make sense.
Última edición por GrimLordGames; 9 ABR a las 7:08 p. m.
Andrew R 9 ABR a las 7:11 p. m. 
I just gifted a copy to a friend.
Life synopsis 9 ABR a las 7:25 p. m. 
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Publicado originalmente por Mal:
Publicado originalmente por Life cistern:

"I'm not..."
"I wouldn't..."
"I'd never..."

Anecdotal experience does not supersede reality.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6751001/#:~:text=Boys%20exposed%20to%20violent%20pornography,to%20their%20non-exposed%20counterparts.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20980228/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257931662_Pornography_and_Sexist_Attitudes_Among_Heterosexuals

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30778831/
You might want to actually read publications before shotgunning them like you're making a point.

The first revolves around teenagers (who shouldn't be consuming this content in the first place) and concludes that their research doesn't establish a causal link as shown in the limitations section.

The second looks to be straight up irrelevant. I don't have access to the full article (and I suspect that you don't either) but based on the abstract It's an analysis of the scenarios depicted in porn, it literally says nothing about the people consuming it.

The third is about a specific population of danish cishet men and is complicated by the fact that these types of studies have shown a wide range of results especially when examining populations outside of men. It's a data point, but not a conclusion. It also appears to be about porn in general, not specific types of content.

The fourth doesn't appear to be relevant either? I don't have time to read it in depth but it appears to be a study of youth sexuality that attempts to understand what if any relationship there is between their online habits and the likelihood of adverse outcomes.

If you want to push the narrative that a specific type of content will magically brainwash people into becoming rapists or that it could only ever be enjoyed by someone who is already a rapist, then you might want to actually find research that supports your position instead of hoping that no one will check the articles you're spamming.

1. Steam is packed with teenagers who are no doubt consuming pornographic content, including this game. Age is relevant. The study concludes that violent pornography is a likely risk factor for youth male on female sexual violence. Considering that the subject is unrehearsed, inconclusive information is acceptable as few alternative anchors of information exist.

2. Humans are incredibly malleable and subversive concepts spread mimetically through media consumption. Shouldn't have to explain this one.

3. The study found that increased exposure to pornography was linked to increased aggression and hostility to women, and leans heavily into sexual script and cultivation theory. Furthermore, data helps paint a complete picture and should not be disregarded.

4. Considering that minors are likely playing this game, and that an entire generation has already grown up on the internet with access to pornography, this article is relevant. Here's a snippet: "In the physical violence model, being a member of the Seekers class (those who intentionally sought out pornography and sex chatting), especially for participants who were maltreated, predicted having had more violent romantic partners one year later".

Here's the correct link. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7135936/
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GrimLordGames 9 ABR a las 7:36 p. m. 
"2. Humans are incredibly malleable and subversive concepts spread mimetically through media consumption. Shouldn't have to explain this one."

That doesn't mean I'm going to let you control me. I come from the generation of GWAR, Type O Negative, Limp Bizkit & Korn, Slipknot, Manson, Eminem, Dope (who famously released the hit of my teenage years,"Die MF Die") which was in itself a song about rebelling against the people who used their moral and social high horses to push you back. The generation that brought us South Park and Beavis and Butthead, etc. That was my generation. So I'm going to fight for this no matter how stupid this game is to me. Because as some have said, if we give you an inch, you take a mile. It won't end with this game. You'll go after others. I know your type.

And you know what? Your little piece on teenagers is just a way to get your foot in the door so you can ban all "coomer games" as you call them. You don't think anyone is going to fight back. Well, we degenerates certainly will. Because we get the difference between fantasy and reality. People can still smoke, still drink and both are harmful. Spare me your porn stats, I've heard every single one you can think of. People who smoke and drink know it's bad for them. Doesn't stop them from doing it and neither are you a god of that authority to make them stop, so please sit down.
Última edición por GrimLordGames; 9 ABR a las 7:37 p. m.
Life synopsis 9 ABR a las 7:56 p. m. 
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Publicado originalmente por GrimLordGames:
"2. Humans are incredibly malleable and subversive concepts spread mimetically through media consumption. Shouldn't have to explain this one."

That doesn't mean I'm going to let you control me. I come from the generation of GWAR, Type O Negative, Limp Bizkit & Korn, Slipknot, Manson, Eminem, Dope (who famously released the hit of my teenage years,"Die MF Die") which was in itself a song about rebelling against the people who used their moral and social high horses to push you back. The generation that brought us South Park and Beavis and Butthead, etc. That was my generation. So I'm going to fight for this no matter how stupid this game is to me. Because as some have said, if we give you an inch, you take a mile. It won't end with this game. You'll go after others. I know your type.

And you know what? Your little piece on teenagers is just a way to get your foot in the door so you can ban all "coomer games" as you call them. You don't think anyone is going to fight back. Well, we degenerates certainly will. Because we get the difference between fantasy and reality. People can still smoke, still drink and both are harmful. Spare me your porn stats, I've heard every single one you can think of. People who smoke and drink know it's bad for them. Doesn't stop them from doing it and neither are you a god of that authority to make them stop, so please sit down.

Your mind is not the steel helm you think it is, friend. Music and movies can influence a mind, but not to the degree that pornography can. Sex is a coveted, innate biological imperative. It is easily warped and exploited.

While your generation made important strides in freedom, to which we're all thankful, not all your "freedoms" are virtues. Ironically, it's your generation's moral lassitude that has created such a fragmented, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up society. The insane polarity of the left and right is a direct response to you and people like you.

But I will not box you in, nor refer to you as any particular "kind", and hope you will come to a sense of morality that is not dependent on popular bureaucratic law. I doubt you are a hapless, amoral sex-charged automaton. I have nothing else to say.

https://youtu.be/K3jXXsL0q5A?si=IlM16Qq6QvV4Jj1j
GrimLordGames 9 ABR a las 8:37 p. m. 
"While your generation made important strides in freedom, to which we're all thankful, not all your "freedoms" are virtues. Ironically, it's your generation's moral lassitude that has created such a fragmented, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up society. The insane polarity of the left and right is a direct response to you and people like you."

That's completely false. The society was always effed up. It didn't matter what the era. Stag films were crazy. The Grand Guignol was horrific. The only difference is we have the internet. And did you only pick Beneath The Remains because it is having an anniversary right now and probably comes up easily when you type metal in a Google search? 🤔 I used to work with these musicians, mate. I'm a former music journalist and former death metal vocalist. The polarization is not a response to me, it's a result of social media, directly. All these viewpoints existed before the internet and before social media. On both the left and right. Whew, listen to some old Ministry and you'll hear classic left wing takes.

I love when someone from Gen Z tells me that they understand what it was like in the nineties. There was a massive evangelical movement back then and we rebelled against that. That was your right wing "we gotta ban porn, metal and D&D because of the kids" and it was all silly. This is just an extension of that.
Última edición por GrimLordGames; 9 ABR a las 9:56 p. m.
Mal 9 ABR a las 9:06 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Life cistern:

1. Steam is packed with teenagers who are no doubt consuming pornographic content, including this game. Age is relevant. The study concludes that violent pornography is a likely risk factor for youth male on female sexual violence. Considering that the subject is unrehearsed, inconclusive information is acceptable as few alternative anchors of information exist.

2. Humans are incredibly malleable and subversive concepts spread mimetically through media consumption. Shouldn't have to explain this one.

3. The study found that increased exposure to pornography was linked to increased aggression and hostility to women, and leans heavily into sexual script and cultivation theory. Furthermore, data helps paint a complete picture and should not be disregarded.

4. Considering that minors are likely playing this game, and that an entire generation has already grown up on the internet with access to pornography, this article is relevant. Here's a snippet: "In the physical violence model, being a member of the Seekers class (those who intentionally sought out pornography and sex chatting), especially for participants who were maltreated, predicted having had more violent romantic partners one year later".

Here's the correct link. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7135936/
1. Steam is not a daycare, if parents are giving their teens access to an unrestricted account with no oversight (and in spite of Steam offering parental controls) that is a failure on *their* part, not Steam's or the developer's. We do not have an obligation to censor ourselves in 18+ spaces on the off chance that people who don't belong in that space might break in and see something they shouldn't.

2. Malleable, but capable of critical thinking and self-regulation. 'You are not immune to propaganda' does not mean the same thing as 'mere exposure will force you to accept a position or adopt a belief'.

There is also the issue that depiction is not automatically endorsement, I brought this up in a different thread but there is a qualitative difference between works that are actively looking to convince you to change your values or accept a position and works that don't. People who are engaged in taboo kinks are generally very much aware that this stuff is objectively bad IRL and should remain the domain of fiction.

3. I did not disregard it, I clarified its implications. The variability of these types of studies and especially the extent to which demographics has an impact on outcomes suggests that the results of this study are likely tied to cultural factors, specifically it supports the notion that men under patriarchal society continue to have a major problem with understanding and respecting consent.

That is not a problem inherent to the porn itself but rather an issue rooted deeply in the core of that patriarchal society, the men who show increased aggression in response to porn are very likely inherently dangerous with or without it, and need to be addressed directly, not by screwing over everyone else who can engage with it without problem.

And don't forget that censorship is a blunt instrument and that these exact kinds of dangerous men are disproportionately represented in positions of power, I certainly don't think that handing them powerful tools to control society with is going to achieve the outcome you expect. You think you're going to stop rape culture, but the more likely outcome is that anyone who isn't a cishet, vanilla-abiding conservative winds up being censored right off the internet and into a jail cell under the guise of purging "degeneracy" from society.

4. This is concerned with the *victims'* usage of pornography, not their partners, and while it speculates about whether the porn itself might shape their risk profile it does not establish any sort of hard causal link.

Additionally, I would encourage you to read pages 12 and 13 more closely. The high sexual objectification group's risk profile is mitigated for those who exhibit higher sexual assertiveness (note that this is *not* intended as victim blaming) implying that objectification in of itself isn't necessarily the driving factor. It's a rather complicated paper that's drawing some very nuanced conclusions, I don't think it can be used to support "Porn = Inherent driver of abuse" or any narrative really other than that more research into these higher risk groups is needed.

As a parting comment, I would remind you that porn existed prior to the internet and misogyny prior to the existence of porn itself. You can't explain millennia of patriarchal society in terms of people being brainwashed by porn into becoming misogynistic rapists, the roots of the power structure are far deeper than that.
GrimLordGames 9 ABR a las 10:06 p. m. 
Wow. You said it better than I ever could.
I <3 Military Men 10 ABR a las 1:25 a. m. 
why are there people defending this game???
Flextape1234 10 ABR a las 1:27 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por I <3 Military Men:
why are there people defending this game???
because they like the game, and people are trying to get it banned, thats why.
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