I just can't play Vergil...

[terry309]

Theres just something about Vergil I just can't get my head around in this game. Whilst i enjoyed playing through the game as Lady/Trish, i'm just not feeling it with Vergil, maybe it's the way he's designed or something but i just find him really awkward to play.

In DMC3 SE i loved playing as Vergil, he was something new and fun, plus he was fast, damn fast, something i find missing with this Vergil. I think basing a character around concentration is a good idea in theory but not very practical for a game like this. Devil May Cry 3 maybe but Devil May Cry 4 comes down to this "fast combo's with fast exits, rinse and repeat". This is because the bosses lack the downtime that they had back in DMC3, in this game you have to be able to exit a combo because an attack is comming and i just find that with Vergil's dark slayer, it just doesn't work. I want to be completely locked on to the boss yes but i don't want to warp to the boss with the press of the B button. Why can't they map it to forward B instead? It feels more natural.

Another thing is the lack of air hike. Air hike wasn't crucial in DMC3, you didn't need it as there were alternative ways to avoid getting hit (sometimes by being aggressive). In Devil May Cry 4, air hike is essential, it's like an air dodge and because you are so vulnerable mid air in this game, it's important. I just don't think that dark slayer is the same to be honest as if you're locked on, you teleport to the enemy instead of performing a trick up, i never liked that. There are moments in DMC4 where not having air hike can screw you such as that part in the forest where you have to jump across platforms before they dissappear, air hike is a life saver there.

Additionally i find some of his animations take too long, particularly when he sheathes yamato after his rapid slash attack, it leaves him wide open, particularly in Legendary Dark Knight mode. Additionally his judgement cut is pitifully weak for some reason, i don't know why either, it just seems pointless in this game and doesn't generate much style points either, heck even the final judgement cut i found to be quite weak as i could have dealth more damage with a force edge b combo. It's only usefulness is in Legendary dark knight mode... but even then you have to be stood still to use it and you will likely get hit whilst you're concentrating. In all other modes i find it pointless as there aren't enough enemies to use it.

Thats just from my experiences, i'm pretty sure other people enjoyed Vergil, probably because they can play better but ultimately i found Trish way more fun, perhaps it's because i'm a noob and Trish was built for noobs like me but i found her back b move which pulls enemies back to her way more useful than Dark slayer. Additionally i can see how Vergil can have a lot of complexity at high levels of play but to me, his combo's just feel unnatural, beast uppercut sucks IMO and trish has his move from DMC3 and beast uppercut does not follow combos well nor do i find it works well with Vergil's character. Ironically, Trish can do both with her Round Trip move which gives her more depth (a lot of people forget that move).

In any case i'm just a bit dissappointed with Vergil personally.

[El Fuerte]

To sum it up you want him more broken than he already is.

[Dankey Kang]

Up to the point I beat DMD with Vergil I was kinda let down, thinking he didn't have too much to work with. But once I got through I realised there's much more to him than I saw at first glance.

He is the fastest character and has a bunch of tools to work with.
I'd say he has more to offer than anyone else (except Dante), he just plays differently.

It's just a matter of discovering and engaging like with every other character.
Vergil's state is similar to Dante's when DMC4 was new. Nobody knew how to play or utilize him, but things started progressing and some guys opened the masses' eyes to his potential.

[76561198021997522]

git gud

[Spooky Dookie♪]

Vergil awesomely OP

[DiabolusUrsus]

Tips:

- You should be using your B teleport to cancel long recovery animations. Make sure you have a sword stuck in at least one enemy at all times.

- Learn how to use Just Judgment Cut. It's really important for keeping his damage up if you're not at max concentration.

- Learn to stay at max concentration. Vergil is VERY fast... he's just got a different pacing than Dante or Nero, where you want to be dishing out damage constantly.

- Teleport is OP. It gives you on-demand invulnerability frames, provided you can get the timing down. There are some attacks I still have trouble dodging, but B is always a potential answer.

- It's hard to double jump in-combat, but if you need double jump in platforming segments press B without lock on. Trick Up is essentially his Air Hike, just like in DMC3:SE.

Here's a combo you can't really go wrong with, unless you're not just paying any attention to the screen:

Rapid Slash > Rising Star (Hold Y to turn Rapid Slash into a launcher) > Aerial Rave B > Just Judgment Cut > Lunar Phase > Helm Breaker.

Vergil is strange at first because he plays so much differently from all the other characters. You have to be calm and methodical; he won't forgive constant button-mashing. (Unless it's B.)

If you need more concentration just go stand next to a few enemies; it'll fill your gauge in no time.

[Ceriss]

First you can cancel the rapid slash animation with a teleport, you can cancel basically everything with that.

Second stick to using just charged judgement cut during combos. you can even charge it after a slash -> teleport.

I'm not the best with him either yet but I realize that's my own shortcomings rather than his.

Although I do wish trick down wasn't limited to devil trigger.

Dodging some attacks by abusing tele is actually more difficult.

[Ashley]

Lock on to a boss. Spam X and B. As long as you spam B fast enough the i-frames are so ridiculous you won't get hit.

Boom. You now know how to play Vergil.

[Nyanpass]

I disappointed with Vergil in general at first ... but after a few hours adjusting to his style ... I realized that he's damn OP, easily the most powerful character for me, instantly kill HUGE number of enemies .. for easy win, just spam Rapid Slash with Teleportation Sword ...

Charge Beast Uppercut up to level 3 (lv 3 can only be accessed with FULL concentration), and try to distort it (similar to Dante's Distorted Real Impact) ...it's easily the most powerful technique in the game, even surpassed Dante's Distorted Real Impact

If you are in a pinch just Devil Trigger and evade all enemies easily, easy Table Hopper