What do you think of the enemies in DMC4 vs DMC3 enemies?

[Ceriss]

Sometimes I think DMC4 moved in an annoyingly gimmicky direction.

Blitz for example... much like blood goyles you have to use gunfire on them first but unlike blood goyles they can actually wreck you. Plus they have an attack that is inescapable without DT if they manage to grab you.

In DMC3 most enemies were stunnable and the ones that weren't... Arachne had enough tell from it's attacks and none of them were too difficult to dodge. The Fallen were dangerous but once again their attacks had enough tell for you to dodge.

In DMC4, Frost is difficult to stun, it's ice projectiles are ridiculously fast too and it often hits you when you're in the air. Assault have a similar attack with their nails and are also not so easily stunnable however they're attacks have enough tell imo.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Chimera enemies. You have to ensure the tentacles are down before you even get close else you're gonna take a ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage. All this while fighting dozens at a time.

Faust has that ridiculous summoned swords attack that can wipe you out.

In DMC3 I don't remember the enemies being quite such a pain. I feel they were balanced better.

Is it just me?

I've been thinking about this for a while but as I started going through DMD again I remembered what a pain some of the enemies can be.

Basically in DMC3 I felt the bosses were scary but in DMC4 the bosses are cake and the mobs are scary instead.

[GB EX]

I haven't played DMC3 yet, so I can't say much about the enemies in that game, but I can definitely agree with you regarding the Blitz, Chimera, and Faust. (Especially the Blitz. I feel the new characters aren't particularly built to fight certain enemies that Dante and Nero are fine against.)

[Ceriss]

引用自 GB-EX：

I haven't played DMC3 yet, so I can't say much about the enemies in that game, but I can definitely agree with you regarding the Blitz, Chimera, and Faust. (Especially the Blitz. I feel the new characters aren't particularly built to fight certain enemies that Dante and Nero are fine against.)

Indeed, Dante has better dodges and Nero has an OP gun and the arm AND table hopper.

Lady can JC a couple of those enemies but they can still be annoying.

With Vergil I absolutely hate Frost and Chimera.

[GB EX]

Reminds me of the Lady vs Agnus (1st battle). Nero is completely equipped for this boss battle. Lady is at a HUGE disadvantage in this fight due to simply lacking the Devil Bringer and being focused heavily on targeting.

[acm]

the enemies are annoying but they're managable because of nero's op pistol and dante's access to all 5 styles...at least the enemies aren't color coded

[Snacks the sober sea lion]

DMC3 did not have good enemies. A lot of them couldn't be juggled, could only be damaged by guns, stuff like that.

[Ceriss]

引用自 zyP3x：

the enemies are annoying but they're managable because of nero's op pistol and dante's access to all 5 styles...at least the enemies aren't color coded

As I said Nero is OP basically and Dante has enough power and evasive skills to work with too.

Vergil and the rest though... Vergil has to go DT to be able to dodge as well as Dante.

引用自 Snacks the sober sea lion：

DMC3 did not have good enemies. A lot of them couldn't be juggled, could only be damaged by guns, stuff like that.

Off the top of my head blood goyle, Abyss, Fallen and Vanguard were the difficult ones, the others I don't recall being too much of a pain.

Also out of all of the enemies only Blood Goyle requires you to use guns.

In 4 Blitz, Faust, Mephisto, and Chimera require you to use guns. The first three cause they're invulnerable otherwise and Chimera cause it can damage you even if knocked down if you don't temporarily stun the tentacles.

[Paranoia]

引用自 Kyokkai：

In 4 Blitz, Faust, Mephisto, and Chimera require you to use guns. The first three cause they're invulnerable otherwise and Chimera cause it can damage you even if knocked down if you don't temporarily stun the tentacles.

Um...Mephisto can be killed without a gun. Not only is it vulnerable to regular melee attacks (same goes for Faust), but there are also ways to damage them effectively using regular weapons. At least that's the case with Vergil, don't remember about other characters (it's been a while).

[45]

DMC3 enemies are awful. They either move around too much or don't have enough health. 4's enemies are just simpler overall and more fun to combo.

Bloodgoyles you have to shoot at first and then they die too fast.
Soul eaters are just annoying and gimmicky and die in 1 hit.
Enigmas run forever and then die too quickly.
Chess pieces hide in super armor mode too much.

The only good enemies in 3 are the sins (except the bomb) the abyss, the fallen angel things the spiders and some bosses.

In dmc4 I can say that I like fighting all enemies even the worst enemy in 4 is still an interesting fight, that being the blitz. And all the bosses are great. Too bad you have to fight every boss 3 times...

[TheComboAddict]

You can actually kill blitz with Royal guard all the way through. Though of course it's difficult but damn does it die quick from it XD

[45]

引用自 Captain Sheepy：

You can actually kill blitz with Royal guard all the way through. Though of course it's difficult but damn does it die quick from it XD

Yeah, you can melee blitz with dante and just time royal guard cancels to block the electricity.

[Stand with Ukraine]

I like the feel and the look of fighting regular DMC3 enemies, even though they're so bland. They're undead guys with scythes. I like the ash you knock outta them with each hit.
Sacks with blades attached to them are unsatisfying to fight. Their death animations take too long.

[Ceriss]

引用自 Paranoia：

引用自 Kyokkai：

In 4 Blitz, Faust, Mephisto, and Chimera require you to use guns. The first three cause they're invulnerable otherwise and Chimera cause it can damage you even if knocked down if you don't temporarily stun the tentacles.

Um...Mephisto can be killed without a gun. Not only is it vulnerable to regular melee attacks (same goes for Faust), but there are also ways to damage them effectively using regular weapons. At least that's the case with Vergil, don't remember about other characters (it's been a while).

It's more efficient to knock the cloak down and use a distortion though for example.

引用自 45：

DMC3 enemies are awful. They either move around too much or don't have enough health. 4's enemies are just simpler overall and more fun to combo.

They were bouncy that's for sure. Not that it matters once you have 'em in the air. I'd rather them be evasive than stun resistant though imo.

引用自 Captain Sheepy：

You can actually kill blitz with Royal guard all the way through. Though of course it's difficult but damn does it die quick from it XD

Yeah but that's specifically with Dante and Nero has his OP gun, Lady can JC cancel her shotty, Trish has pandoras laser and ridiculous attakc power with DT and L&O.

Vergil has swords too but all of the good moves require some DT. Once the shields down you're good but getting it down is a bit more annoying with him.

[Stand with Ukraine]

引用自 45：

DMC3 enemies are awful. They either move around too much or don't have enough health.

There's this thing called "difficulty".

引用自 45：

4's enemies are just simpler overall and more fun to combo.

How so?

[TheComboAddict]

引用自 Kyokkai：

Yeah but that's specifically with Dante and Nero has his OP gun, Lady can JC cancel her shotty, Trish has pandoras laser and ridiculous attakc power with DT and L&O.

Vergil has swords too but all of the good moves require some DT. Once the shields down you're good but getting it down is a bit more annoying with him.

Yeah I love JC Shotty XD. And true on Specific to dante.

On the other hand with vergil, he can at least maximize his output by having his spinning swords around him. Though it's risky gameplay unless one has full confidence in just frame tricks to dodge attacks.

[Pink]

I hated most of the enemies in DMC3, the spiders, the statues, the guys with shields the ghosts, the angels, those are the enemies I hated, I hated them, they weren't fun to fight. The statues especially, they're slow, there is no way to stun them at all, and they're forced on you almost all the time, spiders can be stunned, but it seems to take a long time, and screw their ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ web which stuns me, at least with Frost I feel like it's easier to dodge and there is more ancipation to the Frost's frozen shot.

In DMC4 the only enemy I would say bothers me is Blitz and the enemies possed by the forest. But after learning these enemies, they're not that bad and still can be fun, I find Blitz's charge againts in his red form pretty cheap though.


The only enemies in DMC3 that were fun to play againts were the ones you find at the beginning, and they're still fun to fight when they receive stronger versions of themselves, but they're most of the time the same enemy.

I feel like DMC4's enemies are much more fun to fight and to combo, I do think though that the mini boss in DMC3, the reaper, was better, but that's about it.

Also on bosses, I feel like DMC4 has better bosses, Cerberus may have been too much of a difficult fight to put it at the begining, Berial feels like a better way to do it. Cerberus is just very punishing especially considering at that given moment Dante is very limited and his health bar is very low and a boss that comes after Cerberus, the flying worm, is an absolute joke.