Force Edge Combo A issue (video). Does it work the same way for you?

[B1ackjack]

So first i couldn't get the timing then some people told me to simply mash the button. And so i did but it doesn't end there..

https://youtu.be/O7m455eTA34

[Dankey Kang]

Works for me on turbo every time with a gamepad.
I suppose it's harder to rapidly press the button with a controller than a keyboard (yeah you need some finger speed).

Practice is the only solution.

[B1ackjack]

Originally posted by Auvis:

Works for me on turbo every time with a gamepad.
I suppose it's harder to rapidly press the button with a controller than a keyboard (yeah you need some finger speed).

Practice is the only solution.

It's already far beyond fast.. Not okay at all. Gonna try turbo though.

[Dankey Kang]

Originally posted by B1ackjack:

Originally posted by Auvis:

Works for me on turbo every time with a gamepad.
I suppose it's harder to rapidly press the button with a controller than a keyboard (yeah you need some finger speed).

Practice is the only solution.

It's far beyond fast speed already.. Not okay at all. Gonna try turbo though.

Logically speaking you would need to mash even faster in turbo, but there's a chance that normal speed is bugged. I'll give it a try and edit this post.

Edit: Works perfectly fine for me. I guess it's just a practice issue.

[B1ackjack]

Originally posted by Auvis:

Originally posted by B1ackjack:

It's far beyond fast speed already.. Not okay at all. Gonna try turbo though.

Logically speaking you would need to mash even faster in turbo, but there's a chance that normal speed is bugged. I'll give it a try and edit this post.

Yeah, on turbo i can't even do it on keyboard.. Do you remember how the similar Dante's combo feels? It doesn't require effort at all.

[Dankey Kang]

Originally posted by B1ackjack:

Originally posted by Auvis:

Logically speaking you would need to mash even faster in turbo, but there's a chance that normal speed is bugged. I'll give it a try and edit this post.

Yeah, on turbo i can't even do it on keyboard.. Do you remember how the similar Dante's combo feels? It doesn't require effort at all.

DMC4 is all about effort. Once you practice a good amount you'll be able to do some crazy stuff.

[B1ackjack]

Originally posted by Auvis:

Originally posted by B1ackjack:

Yeah, on turbo i can't even do it on keyboard.. Do you remember how the similar Dante's combo feels? It doesn't require effort at all.

DMC4 is all about effort. Once you practice a good amount you'll be able to do some crazy stuff.

I've been playing DMC4 for like 7 years by now, i know its engine, hitboxes, exploits, timings, tapping force etc, etc.. i mean, i'm quite familliar with its mechanics.
Even considering Vergil is new to DMC4, his other button mashing combos (Force Edge B, Yamato C) don't feel any different to me - it's the same timing and the same tapping speed i used to put into Dante's and Nero's combos.
So please believe, if i'm telling something's not right about this particular one, if my thumb feels like a schnitzel after trying to pull it off - it's quite possible something's really not right.

And i'm not saying everyone has it broken, maybe it's only me experiencing some sort of a bug of input lag or whatever, just wanted to leave it here, maybe the Capcom guy will notice it.

It reminds me of the problem with Killer is Dead revival QTE which was impossible to accomplish at 60fps because of the input registration issues. It was eventually fixed by some .ini editing.

[Scallywag]

The mashing is more or less the same compared to DMC3's million stab where you have to mash hard. Dunno if you could consider a glitch/oversight or a callback since Dante's million stab in DMC4 is quite easy to pull off.

Try inputting the combo as Y (pause) then just mash Y rather than YY (pause) mash Y. Easier to buffer.

[teleportcancel]

Having the same issue here with the exact same controller.

I'm not playing on turbo however.

Is it possible that, like some others said, this is something that is pulled off easier if the Style gauge is higher? That's how Dante's Million Stab in DMC3 worked anyway.

[B1ackjack]

Originally posted by Scallywag:

The mashing is more or less the same compared to DMC3's million stab where you have to mash hard. Dunno if you could consider a glitch/oversight or a callback since Dante's million stab in DMC4 is quite easy to pull off.

Try inputting the combo as Y (pause) then just mash Y rather than YY (pause) mash Y. Easier to buffer.

Yes, that's how i basically do it. And it's much harder than million stab in DMC3..

Originally posted by teleportcancel:

Having the same issue here with the exact same controller.

I'm not playing on turbo however.

Is it possible that, like some others said, this is something that is pulled off easier if the Style gauge is higher? That's how Dante's Million Stab in DMC3 worked anyway.

I'm not playing on turbo either. I doubt it's bound to style meter, looking at his other combos but i'll check.

[Ceriss]

It's y pause then y tap y

[TheComboAddict]

Originally posted by Kyokkai:

It's y pause then y tap y

Yep, seems to be easier that way and gives the hand time to prepare. And if it's not working, you gotta tap faster. Kinda reminiscent of Crazy Combo activation timing in DMC3. Tappity tap tap tap.
Though, I seem to get it working without pausing after the first Y also. It's just tapping speed (I'm on turbo also)

[B1ackjack]

Originally posted by Kyokkai:

It's y pause then y tap y

oh, sweetie..

[Pigi]

I use the PS4 pad and have not problems with anything :D Works great!