DMC 4 or DMC 5 ?

[SupremeChongus]

not too happy with the sales cost of DMC 5..
as a broke full-time college student...
I am wondering if I should get DMC 4 or DMC 5, or if I should wait for say DMC 5 to be cheaper, or is it truely worth it?
Not entirely sure I will buy it, as I have other games I am wanting to get, that I am also waiting for releases as well as other sales (I dont get a lot of extra cash for games so I gtta choose carefully)

[iaket]

DMC4SE if you want a delicated gameplay.
DMC5 if you want a *smash* button game.

[mdesaleah]

5 is the better game in terms of pretty much everything. The only thing 4 has above 5 is more characters.

[SupremeChongus]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

5 is the better game in terms of pretty much everything. The only thing 4 has above 5 is more characters.

I read somewhere that 5 has more characters than 4, as playable characters, unless the articles were all wrong.

[SupremeChongus]

Originally posted by 🎃 eipaNiNi 🎃:

DMC4SE if you want a delicated gameplay.
DMC5 if you want a *smash* button game.

ah, that is a really good description!
not a huge fan of "MASH A QUICKLY TO WIN!"
maybe I will get DMC4SE, that is more affordable, is it worth getting the Deluxe Edition with the extras?
also, thanks for responding!

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by {SOC} ChillierSpore662:

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

5 is the better game in terms of pretty much everything. The only thing 4 has above 5 is more characters.

I read somewhere that 5 has more characters than 4, as playable characters, unless the articles were all wrong.

Nope. 4 SE has Nero, Dante, Lady, Trish, and Vergil. 5 has Nero, Dante, and V. That might sound good but 4 has a major problem were the second half of the story is just the first half played backwards. I have no idea what the other guy is saying, but 5 is much more technical than 4, with much more variety in weapons, and modes. Including a training mode where you can fight an enemy with infinite health to test combos, and a mode that gives Dante ALL of his weapons at once.

[chaotic fried rice]

Originally posted by mdesaleah:

Originally posted by {SOC} ChillierSpore662:

I read somewhere that 5 has more characters than 4, as playable characters, unless the articles were all wrong.

Nope. 4 SE has Nero, Dante, Lady, Trish, and Vergil. 5 has Nero, Dante, and V. That might sound good but 4 has a major problem were the second half of the story is just the first half played backwards. I have no idea what the other guy is saying, but 5 is much more technical than 4, with much more variety in weapons, and modes. Including a training mode where you can fight an enemy with infinite health to test combos, and a mode that gives Dante ALL of his weapons at once.

I can tell you haven't played much 4. People have been using trainers for it for years and years and it has more variety in modes than 5. The Void was added into 5 after years of complaining from fans that there's no training mode in DMC and them having to do it themselves, and it's the only thing it has over DMC4. DMC4 has LDK, DMC4 has more characters.

He's talking about things like reversals and inertia from DMC4, and how it's in general much more demanding of the player on a technical level to play at a high level. The JC windows are much less forgiving, the weapons require more thought and creativity to properly utilize (Lucifer, nuff said. people are still finding new tech with it to this day), the enemies are harder to deal with and require you to be able to effectively use everything at your disposal much more often. DMC5 just gives you tools that completely counter individual things like ice age for cerberus completely negating furies. How do you deal with blitz in DMC4? With Dante you royal guard the energy bursts. Way more technical, way more demanding than spamming back to forward to get free parries. DMC5 seems like it's more technical because it gives you more weapons and moves but it's actually much easier to play at a high level than any other DMC game. It's a great game, but it's no DMC3 or 4 without mods. Not even close.

[iaket]

Originally posted by {SOC} ChillierSpore662:

Originally posted by 🎃 eipaNiNi 🎃:

DMC4SE if you want a delicated gameplay.
DMC5 if you want a *smash* button game.

ah, that is a really good description!
not a huge fan of "MASH A QUICKLY TO WIN!"
maybe I will get DMC4SE, that is more affordable, is it worth getting the Deluxe Edition with the extras?
also, thanks for responding!

if you will buy DMC5 only buy the game and "Cavaliere R" DLC and "Mega buster arm" from Nero DLC, the other things is just visual or diferent voice lines/music.

[SupremeChongus]

Originally posted by 🎃 eipaNiNi 🎃:

Originally posted by {SOC} ChillierSpore662:

ah, that is a really good description!
not a huge fan of "MASH A QUICKLY TO WIN!"
maybe I will get DMC4SE, that is more affordable, is it worth getting the Deluxe Edition with the extras?
also, thanks for responding!

if you will buy DMC5 only buy the game and "Cavaliere R" DLC and "Mega buster arm" from Nero DLC, the other things is just visual or diferent voice lines/music.
:lunar2019piginablanket:

what about DMC4SE Extras? they have some sort of Deluxe Edition for the Special Edition, just wondering if the extra 8.52 USD is worth spending. I think I might wait on DMC 5

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by {SOC} ChillierSpore662:

Originally posted by 🎃 eipaNiNi 🎃:

if you will buy DMC5 only buy the game and "Cavaliere R" DLC and "Mega buster arm" from Nero DLC, the other things is just visual or diferent voice lines/music.
:lunar2019piginablanket:

what about DMC4SE Extras? they have some sort of Deluxe Edition for the Special Edition, just wondering if the extra 8.52 USD is worth spending. I think I might wait on DMC 5

Ignore the DLC for both games. They only give you currency that you can easily get in one playthrough. The only DLC in 4 that counts is the Gloria, Lady Costumes. Those are DLC only. For 5 id recommend the music tracks to add variety, and the Megaman arm.

[Lethal Placebo]

Whoever said DMC5 is a "button mashing" game is factually incorrect, however, another person brought up tech from DMC4 that is missing in 5. This is true, there's no getting around it, 4 is a more technical game than 5, with 5 getting some of that tech back through mods. BUT, and this is a big BUT, it takes HOURS upon HOURS of playing DMC4 to really start to use that tech. I love the DMC games, I'm "only" 80 hours into 4, and I'm just now starting to grasp the use of inertia and reversals and incorporating these techniques into my combos.

So OP, if you really want a game to dedicate your time to, you can't really go wrong with DMC4 or 5 (or 3 for that matter in the HD Collection), but if you dig very very deep into 4 and dedicate the time to it, you'll find the most technical hack n' slash action game ever created (before mods, even).

Edit: previous poster also brought up how DMC5 is a more forgiving game with its jump cancels and enemy types, which is true. I would say DMC5 also has more variety with its bosses. So I guess I should have mentioned that if you're a newbie to the series, I might actually recommend 5 first (if you don't care about story order) because it's easier to get used to the core mechanics of the series. Then later on you can dig into the beast that is DMC4. Or do that first, your choice of course.

[SupremeChongus]

Originally posted by Lethal Placebo:

Whoever said DMC5 is a "button mashing" game is factually incorrect, however, another person brought up tech from DMC4 that is missing in 5. This is true, there's no getting around it, 4 is a more technical game than 5, with 5 getting some of that tech back through mods. BUT, and this is a big BUT, it takes HOURS upon HOURS of playing DMC4 to really start to use that tech. I love the DMC games, I'm "only" 80 hours into 4, and I'm just now starting to grasp the use of inertia and reversals and incorporating these techniques into my combos.

So OP, if you really want a game to dedicate your time to, you can't really go wrong with DMC4 or 5 (or 3 for that matter in the HD Collection), but if you dig very very deep into 4 and dedicate the time to it, you'll find the most technical hack n' slash action game ever created (before mods, even).

Edit: previous poster also brought up how DMC5 is a more forgiving game with its jump cancels and enemy types, which is true. I would say DMC5 also has more variety with its bosses. So I guess I should have mentioned that if you're a newbie to the series, I might actually recommend 5 first (if you don't care about story order) because it's easier to get used to the core mechanics of the series. Then later on you can dig into the beast that is DMC4. Or do that first, your choice of course.

Interesting, I will probably get DMC5 later on as I already bought DMC4 and am Currently saving what I have left for DOOM Eternal, Outer Worlds (which IK isnt coming out till 2020) and Halo MCC/Infinite. Just wanted to add some new titles to my library!
Thank you for the information though, I am sure I will enjoy both DMC 4 and DMC5 for what they are as I always heard my friends talking about the DMC Series so highly!
Thank you again for the response! :D

[mdesaleah]

Originally posted by {SOC} ChillierSpore662:

Originally posted by Lethal Placebo:

Whoever said DMC5 is a "button mashing" game is factually incorrect, however, another person brought up tech from DMC4 that is missing in 5. This is true, there's no getting around it, 4 is a more technical game than 5, with 5 getting some of that tech back through mods. BUT, and this is a big BUT, it takes HOURS upon HOURS of playing DMC4 to really start to use that tech. I love the DMC games, I'm "only" 80 hours into 4, and I'm just now starting to grasp the use of inertia and reversals and incorporating these techniques into my combos.

So OP, if you really want a game to dedicate your time to, you can't really go wrong with DMC4 or 5 (or 3 for that matter in the HD Collection), but if you dig very very deep into 4 and dedicate the time to it, you'll find the most technical hack n' slash action game ever created (before mods, even).

Edit: previous poster also brought up how DMC5 is a more forgiving game with its jump cancels and enemy types, which is true. I would say DMC5 also has more variety with its bosses. So I guess I should have mentioned that if you're a newbie to the series, I might actually recommend 5 first (if you don't care about story order) because it's easier to get used to the core mechanics of the series. Then later on you can dig into the beast that is DMC4. Or do that first, your choice of course.

Interesting, I will probably get DMC5 later on as I already bought DMC4 and am Currently saving what I have left for DOOM Eternal, Outer Worlds (which IK isnt coming out till 2020) and Halo MCC/Infinite. Just wanted to add some new titles to my library!
Thank you for the information though, I am sure I will enjoy both DMC 4 and DMC5 for what they are as I always heard my friends talking about the DMC Series so highly!
Thank you again for the response! :D

5 is a direct continuation of 4. So the loose ends get tied there

[Lethal Placebo]

Originally posted by {SOC} ChillierSpore662:

Interesting, I will probably get DMC5 later on as I already bought DMC4 and am Currently saving what I have left for DOOM Eternal, Outer Worlds (which IK isnt coming out till 2020) and Halo MCC/Infinite. Just wanted to add some new titles to my library!
Thank you for the information though, I am sure I will enjoy both DMC 4 and DMC5 for what they are as I always heard my friends talking about the DMC Series so highly!
Thank you again for the response! :D

Glad I could help, have fun OP!

[wetblues]

DMC 5 is a tier above dmc 4 gameplay wise, it is just so much more creative. While you can get bored with dmc 4 enemies really quick, dmc 5 delivers on every level. Weapons, bosses, minor enemies etc and even story.

[Elden Ring]

DMC 4 has a gameplay and overall feel that is light years away from dmc 5. DMC4 is so much above that it is not even comparable. the only thing dmc5 does better than dmc4 is his story writing. Everything else is either stolen from dmc4 or worse.

DMC4 > DMC5
(except for story)