2025: Devs still releasing games with broken HDR

[Doctor Gitgud]

Hey, let's just spend tens of millions of dollars remaking the graphics and rebuilding the game in a new engine for the explicit purpose of making the game look better, but then release it with broken HDR so it looks like hot garbage.

[Wehzy]

People actually use HDR?

[p00se2]

Originally posted by Wehzy:

People actually use HDR?

0.0001% of peoples

[BPoole]

Originally posted by Wehzy:

People actually use HDR?

Why wouldn't they, assuming they have an HDR monitor?

[Doctor Gitgud]

Originally posted by Wehzy:

People actually use HDR?

Anyone who isn't a poor with a monitor from 2003.

[QuotationMarX]

Originally posted by JCD3nton:

Originally posted by Wehzy:

People actually use HDR?

Anyone who isn't a poor with a monitor from 2003.

Or those who don't care.... Or like me who prefer higher refresh rates over oooo prettier colors

[Doctor Gitgud]

Originally posted by QuotationMarX:

Originally posted by JCD3nton:

Anyone who isn't a poor with a monitor from 2003.

Or those who don't care.... Or like me who prefer higher refresh rates over oooo prettier colors

What GPU are you running that can push this game higher than 4K 144hz OLED specs? Because even my 4090 is struggling to keep above 100fps without dlss at 4K. The only way there even might be a tradeoff between refresh rate and HDR is if you were running a 5090 cranking out fake frames with 4x frame gen. Or you just turn the settings to low, nullifying the point of the remake.

[Dank Sidious]

Originally posted by JCD3nton:

Originally posted by QuotationMarX:

Or those who don't care.... Or like me who prefer higher refresh rates over oooo prettier colors

What GPU are you running that can push this game higher than 4K 144hz OLED specs? Because even my 4090 is struggling to keep above 100fps without dlss at 4K. The only way there even might be a tradeoff between refresh rate and HDR is if you were running a 5090 cranking out fake frames with 4x frame gen. Or you just turn the settings to low, nullifying the point of the remake.

The answer is in your question. People aren't running 4K in the first place because they prefer performance over eye candy. This is one of those games where that actually matters. That's the entire reason why people go for 1440p monitors instead even if they do have decent hardware.

[El Fuerte]

hell Half Life 2 has a better in-game HDR than recent games

[Doctor TacoChocolate]

You think they spend tens of millions on remasters?! Not even close

[lost horizon]

Originally posted by BPoole:

Originally posted by Wehzy:

People actually use HDR?

Why wouldn't they, assuming they have an HDR monitor?

unless you have oled or full array dimming.. which most gaming monitors does not have; HDR is a gimmick and looks worse than no HDR;
even if you do have oled.. it's hard to tune the image quality for HDR.. imagine a gaming company doing it.. its bad.

[wasabi™]

Originally posted by Dank Sidious:

Originally posted by JCD3nton:

What GPU are you running that can push this game higher than 4K 144hz OLED specs? Because even my 4090 is struggling to keep above 100fps without dlss at 4K. The only way there even might be a tradeoff between refresh rate and HDR is if you were running a 5090 cranking out fake frames with 4x frame gen. Or you just turn the settings to low, nullifying the point of the remake.

The answer is in your question. People aren't running 4K in the first place because they prefer performance over eye candy. This is one of those games where that actually matters. That's the entire reason why people go for 1440p monitors instead even if they do have decent hardware.

All I can speak of is from my personal experience as I have been comfortably managing 120fps ultra 4k with DLSS Quality on my 5090 (4k 120hz OLED display) and for me it's become the the optimal way to play the game.

The graphics look pretty damn good and when I compared to native, I could barely tell the difference. Honestly, the trade off didn’t seem worth it to me, I couldn’t consistently hit 120 FPS on native and with DLSS enabled, the visual fidelity remained nearly identical.

When it comes to the in game HDR implementation, I agree that it could have been done a bit better in this case. That’s where Nvidia filters come in handy, I simply disable the in-game HDR and use the RTX HDR filter through the Nvidia overlay instead.

The difference is significant and if offers a much better HDR experience than the in game option in most games. If you have a supported Nvidia card, I highly recommend this approach. Not only does it greatly enhance HDR visual quality but it also gives you far more control to fine tune it exactly how you want and have it saved as a preset.

I actually prefer this method in most games, even when they have a decent HDR implementation. Since my preset filters are already saved and configured, it’s incredibly easy to apply them across multiple games.

[BPoole]

Originally posted by lost horizon:

Originally posted by BPoole:

Why wouldn't they, assuming they have an HDR monitor?

unless you have oled or full array dimming.. which most gaming monitors does not have; HDR is a gimmick and looks worse than no HDR;
even if you do have oled.. it's hard to tune the image quality for HDR.. imagine a gaming company doing it.. its bad.

I didn't realize non-OLED HDR wasn't any good. I went from a non-HDR 1440p monitor to an OLED and have found it to be reallly nice, even just using Windows' AutoHDR for games that don't natively support it. But in other games like CP2077 or the RE4 Remake, HDR makes a huge difference.

[wasabi™]

Originally posted by BPoole:

Originally posted by lost horizon:

unless you have oled or full array dimming.. which most gaming monitors does not have; HDR is a gimmick and looks worse than no HDR;
even if you do have oled.. it's hard to tune the image quality for HDR.. imagine a gaming company doing it.. its bad.

I didn't realize non-OLED HDR wasn't any good. I went from a non-HDR 1440p monitor to an OLED and have found it to be reallly nice, even just using Windows' AutoHDR for games that don't natively support it. But in other games like CP2077 or the RE4 Remake, HDR makes a huge difference.

Yeah HDR makes a significant difference for me as well, I couldn't ever imagine not using it on an OLED display. Also you can now even have RTX HDR and quality upscaling on if you just want to use it for just watching non hdr Youtube videos or whatever else as well.

I also never previously thought either that HDR was any good until I started using an OLED display but if I ever turn HDR off I can immediately tell the difference.

[lost horizon]

Originally posted by BPoole:

Originally posted by lost horizon:

unless you have oled or full array dimming.. which most gaming monitors does not have; HDR is a gimmick and looks worse than no HDR;
even if you do have oled.. it's hard to tune the image quality for HDR.. imagine a gaming company doing it.. its bad.

I didn't realize non-OLED HDR wasn't any good. I went from a non-HDR 1440p monitor to an OLED and have found it to be reallly nice, even just using Windows' AutoHDR for games that don't natively support it. But in other games like CP2077 or the RE4 Remake, HDR makes a huge difference.

you think it makes a difference because brightness is cranked up.. but its bad. if your monitor is IPS any light bleed is now 100% worse.. there's too few dimming zones so flicker.. and low native contrast.

[Dante]

BRUH!...HDR is overrated. Only console peasants use it. Just use Reshade and make your own HDR according to your taste of saturation, blacks, whites and contrast....and the best part is, you dont even need a freaking HDR TV/monitor for it