Chapter 3 in master ninja

[Shimo]

After defeating the ninjas, dogs and open the chest... those winged demons that throw fireball from it's mouth are impossible to defeat. I'm trapped in that part that I lost the count of how many hours I've been trying
Any advice guys?

[BlueJin91]

At 1:36 mark. This is how I do it. Falcon's Talon's xyy requires timing (press second y just as first y hits enemy), but once you get the timing down, it's a fast and consistent de-limb. Vigoorian Flail's forward y is faster, though it's not as consistent of a de-limb.

https://youtu.be/ruB-v4Q7Bvg

[Shimo]

Originally posted by BlueJin91:

At 1:09 mark. This is how I do it. Falcon's Talon's xyy requires timing (press second y just as first y hits enemy), but once you get the timing down, it's a fast and consistent de-limb. Vigoorian Flail's forward y is faster, though it's not as consistent of a de-limb.

https://youtu.be/IKieD7iu7-w

Interesting, I'll try the falcon's xyy, thanks

[Stickman]

You can run past the ninja and dog spawns straight to the chest with fire bird ninjutsu to make it less terrible getting there. Fighting the flying guys on master ninja is going to be best with delimb/decapitation. Flying swallow is pretty effective and safe. Just roll and jump around until you get a good chance to do it. light, light, forward heavy combo on the dragon katana is good for delimb too.

[Largo Papi]

Originally posted by Stickman:

Flying swallow is pretty effective and safe. Just roll and jump around until you get a good chance to do it. light, light, forward heavy combo on the dragon katana is good for delimb too.

This isn't quite helpful. It takes about 12 flying swallows to delimb one of those guys. You need to use another weapon that (for whatever reason) delimbs those enemies faster. The dragon sword combos, as well, can take about 5 repeats before any delimbing occurs. By then, more flying Van Gelfs will appear and instakill you with a grab/fireball.

[viktorhallo]

one of the toughest fights in the whole game on master ninja. personally i ended up using all my ninpo and close to all my consumables just to get past this part.

[Pnume]

I'm currently stuck exactly there.

[Thanous]

Use the staff, do the half circle ut, just run past all the enemies and the dogs and open the chest, it will trigger the cut scene and everything else will disappear

[Shimo]

Nah, ♥♥♥♥ this game, this difficulty, those enemies. At this point I'm not even getting fun with the game anymore. I'm done with the challenge

[BlueJin91]

Originally posted by Largo Papi:

Originally posted by Stickman:

Flying swallow is pretty effective and safe. Just roll and jump around until you get a good chance to do it. light, light, forward heavy combo on the dragon katana is good for delimb too.

This isn't quite helpful. It takes about 12 flying swallows to delimb one of those guys. You need to use another weapon that (for whatever reason) delimbs those enemies faster. The dragon sword combos, as well, can take about 5 repeats before any delimbing occurs. By then, more flying Van Gelfs will appear and instakill you with a grab/fireball.

The DS Flying Swallow is mostly to get in on the enemy so you can land near them, xxy, shuriken, OT. If the FS beheads, it's just an added bonus.

Originally posted by Shimo:

Nah, ♥♥♥♥ this game, this difficulty, those enemies. At this point I'm not even getting fun with the game anymore. I'm done with the challenge

Don't get discouraged, The high damage and poor visibility can make some areas in MN feel too random. Even highly skilled players get killed by random things in MN due to awful balancing. Once you get past this awful section, it'll be a more pleasant experience... until the next awful spot which comes near the end of chapter 3. :P Fortunately, there's at least a save statue before that encounter.

If MN feels too hard and Mentor feels too easy, I recommend giving Fiend Busa's NG2BWhite mod a try. NG2BW's Mentor is similar in difficulty to MN in the official game, but it's much more balanced and relies more on skill rather than random luck. I highly recommend watching some expert videos of original NG2 before tackling NG2BW's Mentor difficulty, though.

[Thanous]

Originally posted by BlueJin91:

Originally posted by Largo Papi:

This isn't quite helpful. It takes about 12 flying swallows to delimb one of those guys. You need to use another weapon that (for whatever reason) delimbs those enemies faster. The dragon sword combos, as well, can take about 5 repeats before any delimbing occurs. By then, more flying Van Gelfs will appear and instakill you with a grab/fireball.

The DS Flying Swallow is mostly to get in on the enemy so you can land near them, xxy, shuriken, OT. If the FS beheads, it's just an added bonus.

Originally posted by Shimo:

Nah, ♥♥♥♥ this game, this difficulty, those enemies. At this point I'm not even getting fun with the game anymore. I'm done with the challenge

Don't get discouraged, The high damage and poor visibility can make some areas in MN feel too random. Even highly skilled players get killed by random things in MN due to awful balancing. Once you get past this awful section, it'll be a more pleasant experience... until the next awful spot which comes near the end of chapter 3. :P Fortunately, there's at least a save statue before that encounter.

If MN feels too hard and Mentor feels too easy, I recommend giving Fiend Busa's NG2BWhite mod a try. NG2BW's Mentor is similar in difficulty to MN in the official game, but it's much more balanced and relies more on skill rather than random luck. It'll take some practice though.

That is exactly where I am at mentor is easy and MN is just so punishing Its not fun. I stopped at chapter 5, I hate the female chapters, and I hate the red and blue spider brothers. I know I can beat it but Its like a chore I dont want to put myself through. I want a mod that unlocks chapter challenge MN and I can just skip them

[Shimo]

Originally posted by BlueJin91:

Originally posted by Largo Papi:

This isn't quite helpful. It takes about 12 flying swallows to delimb one of those guys. You need to use another weapon that (for whatever reason) delimbs those enemies faster. The dragon sword combos, as well, can take about 5 repeats before any delimbing occurs. By then, more flying Van Gelfs will appear and instakill you with a grab/fireball.

The DS Flying Swallow is mostly to get in on the enemy so you can land near them, xxy, shuriken, OT. If the FS beheads, it's just an added bonus.

Originally posted by Shimo:

Nah, ♥♥♥♥ this game, this difficulty, those enemies. At this point I'm not even getting fun with the game anymore. I'm done with the challenge

Don't get discouraged, The high damage and poor visibility can make some areas in MN feel too random. Even highly skilled players get killed by random things in MN due to awful balancing. Once you get past this awful section, it'll be a more pleasant experience... until the next awful spot which comes near the end of chapter 3. :P Fortunately, there's at least a save statue before that encounter.

If MN feels too hard and Mentor feels too easy, I recommend giving Fiend Busa's NG2BWhite mod a try. NG2BW's Mentor is similar in difficulty to MN in the official game, but it's much more balanced and relies more on skill rather than random luck. I highly recommend watching some expert videos of original NG2 before tackling NG2BW's Mentor difficulty, though.

The game is beautiful, fun (except this crap section). But I think this difficulty it's a bit unbalanced in a bad way.

[Meddle92]

Originally posted by Shimo:

Nah, ♥♥♥♥ this game, this difficulty, those enemies. At this point I'm not even getting fun with the game anymore. I'm done with the challenge

FR this "Master Ninja" is a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Literally jump around spam ultimate technique and izuna drops and pray you get lucky and not hit by some ridiculous projectiles that are coming in at you from an offscreen position. This difficulty is trash.

[Wehzy]

Originally posted by Meddle92:

Originally posted by Shimo:

Nah, ♥♥♥♥ this game, this difficulty, those enemies. At this point I'm not even getting fun with the game anymore. I'm done with the challenge

FR this "Master Ninja" is a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Literally jump around spam ultimate technique and izuna drops and pray you get lucky and not hit by some ridiculous projectiles that are coming in at you from an offscreen position. This difficulty is trash.

Well, not really. There is people out there who play on master ninja without UT spam, no ninpo and no upgrades. Its just a huge learning curve comapared to souls like games. It takes a LONG time to learn all the combos in NG.