NINJA GAIDEN 2 Black

NINJA GAIDEN 2 Black

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Senki Jan 25 @ 9:11am
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I don't get the Ninja Gaiden hype
As a fan of team ninja's newer games like Nioh 2 I kept hearing about Ninja Gaiden in the community and after finally trying one of them all I have to say is that this is probably the clunkiest thing I've ever played as far as action games go

Is the hype just nostalgia? This game feels horrible in almost every aspect, I wish they would've remade the gameplay for modern standards as well not just the visuals.

It's not like I haven't played older games either, Bayonetta is from the same era as Ninja Gaiden 2 but it still feels amazing to play today.

Kinda sad I wasted my money on this unpolished jank

EDIT: I wanna take back the ''almost every aspect feels horrible'' part, it was an overreaction but I still think the game is pretty janky
Last edited by Senki; Jan 29 @ 10:12am
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Sygmaelle Jan 25 @ 9:16am 
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you wont find any action game more responsive and amazing to control. there is strictly nothing clunky about it
Senki Jan 25 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by Sygmaelle:
you wont find any action game more responsive and amazing to control. there is strictly nothing clunky about it

biggest lie i've ever read

Bayonetta, Metal gear rising revengeance hell even Lollipop Chainsaw are much smoother than this jank

And I don't even want to mention DMC 5 because that's just overkill

This game just feels like it's trying too hard to take control from the player by being unresponsive and having a trash camera for a bad attempt at difficulty
Last edited by Senki; Jan 25 @ 9:29am
It's because this port has a ton of additional input lag. The original games are more fluid. Ryu shouldn't only attack and dodge when the pressed button has already returned to neutral. Sigma already added more input lag to the original, and now this port adds another ~5 frames (~80ms) to it due to the bad optimization
Last edited by Nachtmahr; Jan 25 @ 9:33am
Senki Jan 25 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Nachtmahr:
It's because this port has a ton of additional input lag. The original games are more fluid. Ryu shouldn't only attack and doge when the pressed button has already returned to neutral. Sigma already added more input lag to the original, and now this port adds another ~5 frames (~80ms) to it due to the bad optimization

Damn so I guess I just started with a bad one
勇気 Jan 25 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by Sygmaelle:
you wont find any action game more responsive and amazing to control. there is strictly nothing clunky about it

biggest lie i've ever read

Bayonetta, Metal gear rising revengeance hell even Lollipop Chainsaw are much smoother than this jank

And I don't even want to mention DMC 5 because that's just overkill

This game just feels like it's trying too hard to take control from the player by being unresponsive and having a trash camera for a bad attempt at difficulty
I just wanna note that you are being gaslight right now. If you go play the OG2 on an emulator, 100 enemies are going to spawn off screen and all start throwing ♥♥♥♥ at you, and most of the time you will not see them at all and have to win by relying on trying to get quick kills that let you spam your ultimate technique.
Morbis Jan 25 @ 9:58am 
You're bad. Practice more.
You sound like those Souls players who complain about Nioh ironically lmao
Senki Jan 25 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by 勇気:
Originally posted by Senki:

biggest lie i've ever read

Bayonetta, Metal gear rising revengeance hell even Lollipop Chainsaw are much smoother than this jank

And I don't even want to mention DMC 5 because that's just overkill

This game just feels like it's trying too hard to take control from the player by being unresponsive and having a trash camera for a bad attempt at difficulty
I just wanna note that you are being gaslight right now. If you go play the OG2 on an emulator, 100 enemies are going to spawn off screen and all start throwing ♥♥♥♥ at you, and most of the time you will not see them at all and have to win by relying on trying to get quick kills that let you spam your ultimate technique.

Yeah well I'm not even gonna bother with this franchise after this anyway, played it to see what the big deal is and it sucks.

Maybe I'll try Ninja Gaiden 4 since it's made by Platinum games and it might have actual polished gameplay as a new game but that's about it.

Just mad that I'm past the refund time on this so I needed to rant
Senki Jan 25 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by Morbis:
You're bad. Practice more.
You sound like those Souls players who complain about Nioh ironically lmao

Nah, I can tell when I'm bad and when the game is just janky
Wehzy Jan 25 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by Sygmaelle:
you wont find any action game more responsive and amazing to control. there is strictly nothing clunky about it

biggest lie i've ever read

Bayonetta, Metal gear rising revengeance hell even Lollipop Chainsaw are much smoother than this jank

And I don't even want to mention DMC 5 because that's just overkill

This game just feels like it's trying too hard to take control from the player by being unresponsive and having a trash camera for a bad attempt at difficulty

Well seems like you hate fun games.

NG series is by far the best hack'n slash out there.
Wehzy Jan 25 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by Morbis:
You're bad. Practice more.
You sound like those Souls players who complain about Nioh ironically lmao

Nah, I can tell when I'm bad and when the game is just janky

Its not the game, its an you issue.
Senki Jan 25 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by Wehzy:
Originally posted by Senki:

Nah, I can tell when I'm bad and when the game is just janky

Its not the game, its an you issue.

It's not a me issue, the game is objectively less responsive and clunkier than many other action games.

I get it, some people have much lower standards but the whole point of playing an action game is seeing smooth combat/movement that feels good and I'm not getting that here.
Morbis Jan 25 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by Morbis:
You're bad. Practice more.
You sound like those Souls players who complain about Nioh ironically lmao

Nah, I can tell when I'm bad and when the game is just janky

Nah, trust me on this. Unless you're having some actually input delay bugs than fair enough.

Wait for mods that might restore the game to what all of the game systems are for. The version this remake isn't the good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU4LkcG5LkM
Last edited by Morbis; Jan 25 @ 10:09am
Senki Jan 25 @ 10:12am 
Originally posted by Morbis:
Originally posted by Senki:

Nah, I can tell when I'm bad and when the game is just janky

Nah, trust me on this. Unless you're having some actually input delay bugs than fair enough.

Wait for mods that might restore the game to what all of the game systems are for. The version this remake isn't the good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU4LkcG5LkM

from what people say the remake does indeed have input delay

It just doesn't feel smooth, I'm not mad because I die or anything I was playing on normal and only died once anyway.

If I compare this game to other action games that I played it's simply just clunkier, both dodging and parrying feel delayed along with the combos.
Last edited by Senki; Jan 25 @ 10:13am
Morbis Jan 25 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by Morbis:

Nah, trust me on this. Unless you're having some actually input delay bugs than fair enough.

Wait for mods that might restore the game to what all of the game systems are for. The version this remake isn't the good one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU4LkcG5LkM

from what people say the remake does indeed have input delay

It just doesn't feel smooth, I'm not mad because I die or anything I was playing on normal and only died once anyway.

Yeah then there's something wrong. I only played through chapter 1, but everything was the way it was supposed to be for me.
Sygmaelle Jan 25 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by Senki:
Originally posted by Sygmaelle:
you wont find any action game more responsive and amazing to control. there is strictly nothing clunky about it

biggest lie i've ever read

Bayonetta, Metal gear rising revengeance hell even Lollipop Chainsaw are much smoother than this jank

And I don't even want to mention DMC 5 because that's just overkill

This game just feels like it's trying too hard to take control from the player by being unresponsive and having a trash camera for a bad attempt at difficulty

you're coping hard, ninja gaiden has always been basically the opposite of clunky. its ok to be bad. got zero issues here
Last edited by Sygmaelle; Jan 25 @ 10:28am
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