new to ninja gaiden i need your advice

[Abo_3a]

hi yall so i have see some reviews that say the game is like the original one but with good graphics and some says its just trash

for someone never played ninja gaiden game ever should i get this one or its not worth it and i should play the original one instead

[勇気]

This is a good game. The original Ninja Gaiden 2 is still different, but it is very hard, and not in a fun way. A large part of the difficulty comes from the fact that there are so many enemies on and off the screen, that you are bombarded with attacks, often times that you cannot see or react to in anyway. This leads to you getting pelted with explosives and dying a lot. The only way to overcome it is to play a very specific play style.

So the cons are bad camera, way too much enemies, and unfair difficulty. The pros are its a very pretty game for it's time in my opinion, the combat IS fun and fluid, and despite the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mechanics there is a great game in it's design there.

Ignore Sigma 2, unless you want to play the mod that makes it like the OG. This game is not an exact remake of 2, just like Ninja Gaiden Black isn't 1:1 with Ninja Gaiden. It has less enemies, they are stronger, single target enemies do more damage, updated graphics, etc. The answer essentially boils down to how much do you want to suffer to fight more enemies. The difficutly of the original is not like Dark Souls or something, where you feel it's fair and you learn and improve, it's honestly frustrating ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ which is why the game failed to reach as big an audience as it could, but some people swear by it as the greatest action game of all time. I am not one of those people. I think it's worse than Ninja Gaiden Black in every way and am enjoying Black 2 more than the OG.

[Living Dead]

If you want to throw a giant shuriken, fire charged arrows, press switches to deactivate waterfalls, find keys to open doors, do survival challenges, or Naruto run on water while fighting a water dragon as a ninja get the original. If you want sections playing less capable female warriors and arrows that automatically hit the target and to fight that water dragon by firing a cannon from a small platform then get this version.

[Sixtyfivekills]

You'd probably want Master Collection first, I don't know what they were thinking when pricing this.

[sBuckler]

Closer to the original, but not 1-1. It's certainly not trash - that title belongs to Sigma 2. Anyway, I've played the OG, Sigma 2, and the remake. I can say that the remake's ok. You can give it a shot as someone new to the series. OG is king, and I love it to death, however it has an obnoxiously annoying chapter (12) and a couple awful bosses that Sigma 2 and the remake smooth out.

"Living Dead" over here summarizes some of the differences - focusing on the frustrations in the original.

[Abo_3a]

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

You'd probably want Master Collection first, I don't know what they were thinking when pricing this.

ohh is master collection better than this game?

[Living Dead]

Originally posted by Abo_3a:

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

You'd probably want Master Collection first, I don't know what they were thinking when pricing this.

ohh is master collection better than this game?

It is three games. First one is arguably better. Second one is worse unless you apply Black mod. With the mod the game is comparable to remake but still not like the original. Third is different and not in a good way.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Originally posted by Abo_3a:

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

You'd probably want Master Collection first, I don't know what they were thinking when pricing this.

ohh is master collection better than this game?

NG2 Black seems extremely similar to Sigma 2 but the Master Collection is $10 cheaper and has two more games along with it.


Of course I haven't played 2 Black yet because I'll wait for a sale so you'd probably get better info regarding differences from someone that did buy it.

[Ovalencia1]

What up. Not sure if you already made a decision but here's my two cents. I've played every version of 1 and 2, and I do a full playthrough of 2 at least once a year.

Short answer: this is for sure the best version of the game, but I don't know if I'd pay $50. A couple reasons I'm hesitant about the price:

- I am someone who is completely fine with playing games through game pass and not actually purchasing them, so I wouldn't pay the full price.
- I also have a bias against a full purchase because I already play it so much
- While you can't get Ninja Gaiden 2 Black any cheaper, there are alternative versions of the game with better pricing

I could go into the differences across the multiple versions but I truly don't think they're that significant. On top of that, the differences are never in the core combat of the game - that has always remained the same. imo, you'd really have to be nitpicking to dwell on the changes from the OG to this new version. If you really care to know what the differences are, just find a youtube video and you'll learn everything there.

Feel free to ask more questions but here's a few final points:

- The master ninja collection could be a good alternative if you're interested in playing the series. Ninja Gaiden 1 might genuinely be my favorite gaming experience of the series, but Ninja Gaiden 2 combat is just so damn good. Going back to 1 just makes me wish it had the combat of 2. I mean the combat is still pretty similar but 2 really took it to that next level. No one really likes Ninja Gaiden 3 that much because it felt like a downgrade in level and enemy/boss design, and now that we have the updated graphics of Ninja Gaiden 2 Black, I will probably never return to 3. So I would say the Master Ninja collection really only makes sense if you're interested in playing Ninja Gaiden 1.
- The main draw of the new Ninja Gaiden 2 Black version: that the graphics are so much better now. I don't know what kind of specs you have, but I'm able to play this at 120fps 2160p and I love it. I am someone who is very picky about the graphics of my action games and this has not disappointed.
- gamepass has this new version and the master collection so you could just get both experiences there
- imagine that one of your favorite action combat games got a HUGE graphics bump. Would you care to play that game again with better graphics?

[Mimsiwhimsy]

Originally posted by Abo_3a:

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

You'd probably want Master Collection first, I don't know what they were thinking when pricing this.

ohh is master collection better than this game?

This "Black" version is definitely better than the version of this game that comes with the Master Collection, which is Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (not vanilla Ninja Gaiden 2, which was originally released on the Xbox 360).

Ninja Gaiden 2 Black incorporates sensibilities and game design from both of those previous versions of Ninja Gaiden 2, but is more akin to Sigma 2 (from the MC) than it is to the vanilla version (aside from the return of all the blood and gore featured in vanilla NG2, which was completely censored out from the version in the Master Collection).

[Luke]

I would 100% get this version. The updated visuals are gorgeous, and it's superior to Sigma 2 (in the Master Collection) anyways what with having the gore restored and whatnot. Plus, they're apparently making some changes to the game based on fan feedback with a patch coming sometime in Feb.

Coming from someone who owned the original NG, NGB, and NG2 on Xbox 360, I love this game.