Worms W.M.D

Worms W.M.D

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Ogzwyndż Aug 2, 2019 @ 6:07am
which one??
Ok, so since me and my gf are gaming together (Overcooked!), I wanted to come back to (2d) Worms for some hot seat. Trouble is, I don't know which one to pick, there are so many of them and they all look so similar!

Worms 2, Worms: Armageddon, Worms: World Party, Worms: Reloaded, Worms WMD...

Only played the first two (and the 1st gen but that's too old) and I don't remember how they differed. I'd appreciate if anyone could help or point me to some article comparing features of all of the above. Quick Google search turned out nothing.

Again, I don't care about Online Multiplayer, just Hotseat with my gf and maybe a friend.
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worm_called_Leo Aug 2, 2019 @ 6:40am 
just buy worms w.md. friend. be welcome to play in ranked with us asap.
Rantsi Aug 2, 2019 @ 6:52am 
From those you should decide between Armageddon, Reloaded and WMD. Worms 2 and World Party are like Armageddon but worse.

I don't know about Reloaded so here's a quote from another player:
Originally posted by ```skunk3```:
Worms World Party is not better than Armageddon. W:A has gotten many updates over the years and has left WWP in the dust. Reloaded is trash... it feels like playing a crappy flash game. Revolution and Clan Wars actually have smart gameplay but some people don't like the 2.5D nature of those games. I didn't at first but they eventually grew on me and tbh I think that Clan Wars is excellent overall, in fact it is my second favorite in the series behind W:A and above WMD.

To me it sounds like you'd be happy with WMD because it has better graphics than Armageddon. Too bad you missed the 67% discount.
Last edited by Rantsi; Aug 2, 2019 @ 7:02am
ThorN Aug 2, 2019 @ 7:26am 
Unfortunately there are so many differences that in-depth explanations could take an hour to write down. It would be easier if you had an idea of what you're looking for in a Worms game.

Worms 2, Worms Armageddon and Worms World Party are all very similar to one another, but if you want one of those then Worms Armageddon might be the best choice for its features. Out of the box, Worms 2 has weapons that are much more configurable (damage, knockback, explosion size etc. can all be altered, even for individual machine gun bullets), and Worms World Party has the Wormpot, however, I believe mods can put Worms Armageddon on that same level. It's hard to say. Worms 2 is lacking support for full color custom maps. Worms World Party has multiplayer co-op missions and versus missions as well as a mission editor to create your own multiplayer/singleplayer missions.

Worms Revolution and Worms Clan Wars are also very similar to each other. Clan Wars has a few more weapons and slightly bigger maps, but less environmental themes. The balance of the four worm classes is ever so slightly better.



Broad feature descriptions for all games (Again, please keep in mind that I only cover unique aspects that come out of the box with the game; for instance, Worms 2 has fully configurable weapons out of the box, but there are mods that also add this functionality to Worms Reloaded):



Worms 2:
Max Teams per Match: 6
Max Worms per Match: 18
Max Worms per Team: 8
Physics: non-realistic (objects such as grenades ignore surface curvature, only bounce vertically or horizontally)
List of weapons: https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Worms_2#Weapons_.26_Utilities

Unique Aspect: Almost fully configurable weapons.

Customization Sidenote: You can import your own speechbanks.



Worms Armageddon:
Max Teams per Match: 6
Max Worms per Match: 48
Max Worms per Team: 8
Physics: non-realistic (objects such as grenades ignore surface curvature, only bounce vertically or horizontally)
List of weapons: https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Weapons_in_Worms_Armageddon

Unique Aspect: Infinitely large and wide custom maps (need to be imported)

Sidenote 1: Not really relevant for hotseat, but out of the second generation (Worms 2, WWP and WA) it has the only reasonably active online player base.

Sidenote 2: Probably has the most community mods out of all the games.

Customization sidenote: You can import your own 2D gravestones and your own speechbanks.



Worms World Party:
Max Teams per Match: 6
Max Worms per Match: 18
Max Worms per Team: 8
Physics: non-realistic (objects such as grenades ignore surface curvature, only bounce vertically or horizontally)
List of weapons: https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Weapons_in_Worms_World_Party

Unique Aspect 1: Wormpot, which allows you to enable a number of presets that slightly alter the gameplay.

Unique Aspect 2: Multiplayer co-op or versus missions; comes with a mission editor included (separate program) to create your own missions

Sidenote: The "Remaster" that is available on Steam seems to have some performance issues mostly related to fire, which on weak computers can cause stutters.

Customization sidenote: You can import your own 2D gravestones and your own speechbanks.



Worms Reloaded:
Max Teams per Match: 4
Max Worms per Match: 16
Max Worms per Team: 4
Physics: realistic (objects such as grenades respect surface curvature, they roll down slopes, slide along surfaces and can bounce in any direction)
List of weapons: https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Weapons_in_Worms_Reloaded

Unique Aspect: The full color levels that can be imported can also have their own custom full color backgrounds. Custom maps allow you to set the placements of each individual worm for each team to create scenarios or symmetric multiplayer maps. Other placable objects include (neutral) Sentry Guns, mines, oil drums and magnets.

Customization Sidenote: You can import your own speechbanks.



Worms Revolution:
Max Teams per Match: 4
Max Worms per Match: 16
Max Worms per Team: 8
Physics: realistic (objects such as grenades respect surface curvature, they roll down slopes, slide along surfaces and can bounce in any direction)
List of weapons: https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Weapons_in_Worms_Revolution

Unique Aspect 1: There is dynamic water that can optionally spawn on the landscape or be created with certain weapons, such as water balloons. This water adheres to physics and drips along the surface. Worms do not drown immediately in this water, but rather they lose five HP for each turn that they end in water submerged. Worms and weapon movement is hindered underwater. Water slows your fall and thus can prevent fall damage if deep enough.

Unique Aspect 2: Dynamic objects are optionally scattered across the landscape. These adhere to physics and thus can roll and bounce around and walking or jumping on or against them with your worms can move them; throwing other objects (including weapons) or water at them can also move them.

Unique Aspect 3: Custom maps allow you to set the placements of each individual worm for each team and for physics objects to create scenarios or symmetric multiplayer maps. Other placable objects include (neutral) Sentry Guns, mines, oil drums and magnets.

Unique Aspect 4: Optionally, you can enable coin crate drops. Each crate gives you ten coins, and you can use those coins to purchase weapons and tools. The more powerful a weapon or tool, the more it costs.



Worms Clan Wars:
Max Teams per Match: 4
Max Worms per Match: 16
Max Worms per Team: 8
Physics: realistic (objects such as grenades respect surface curvature, they roll down slopes, slide along surfaces and can bounce in any direction)
List of weapons: https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Weapons_in_Worms_Clan_Wars

Unique Aspect 1: There is dynamic water that can optionally spawn on the landscape or be created with certain weapons, such as water balloons. This water adheres to physics and drips along the surface. Worms do not drown immediately in this water, but rather they lose five HP for each turn that they end in water submerged. Worms and weapon movement is hindered underwater. Water slows your fall and thus can prevent fall damage if deep enough.

Unique Aspect 2: Dynamic objects are optionally scattered across the landscape. These adhere to physics and thus can roll and bounce around and walking or jumping on or against them with your worms can move them; throwing other objects (including weapons) or water at them can also move them.

Unique Aspect 3: Custom maps allow you to set the placements of each individual worm for each team and for physics objects to create scenarios or symmetric multiplayer maps. Other placable objects include (neutral) Sentry Guns, mines, oil drums and magnets. There are more advanced physics objects compared to Worms Revolution that can be placed in the editor, such as water fountain spawners or contraptions like seesaws or waterwheels that are suspended in mid-air and move when worms or objects interact with them.

Unique Aspect 4: Optionally, you can enable coin crate drops. Each crate gives you ten coins, and you can use those coins to purchase weapons and tools. The more powerful a weapon or tool, the more it costs.

Customization Sidenote: You can import your own 3D Gravestones, 3D Hats and Speechbanks.


Worms W.M.D:
Max Teams per Match: 6
Max Worms per Match: 48
Max Worms per Team: 8
Physics: non-realistic (objects such as grenades ignore surface curvature, only bounce vertically or horizontally)
List of weapons: https://worms.fandom.com/wiki/Worms_W.M.D

Unique Aspect 1: Optionally, vehicles and stationary turrets spawn or drop during a match and can be mounted and driven around the landscape, with each of them sporting their own means of attacks. Attacks end your turn. Vehicles can stay mounted after a turn, but enemies can steal your vehicles and kick you out. Tanks can jump and fire up to six shells. Helicopters can fly indefinitely and fire machine gun salves, but have to land after a turn. Drillboats can drive on water and drill holes through the map like a giant Blowtorch. The Rocket League Car can double jump super high and do a flip kick to send worms flying like the Baseball Bat. Mechs can jump and hover and beat huge holes into the landscape which also sends worms flying. There's Mortar Turrets, Machine Gun Turrets, Sniper Turrets, Flamethrower Turrets and Dubstep Gun Turrets.

Unique Aspect 2: Optionally, you can enable crafting. This allows players to dismantle a weapon and get some ingredients, as well as pick up ingredients in ingredient crates that drop like normal crates. These ingredients can then be used to craft any other weapon. More powerful weapons require more and more powerful ingredients. Per turn, only one weapon may be either dismantled or crafted, and crafting completes in the next turn. In Network Play, You can also use enemy turns to craft, making crafting much more powerful.

Customization Sidenote: You can import your own 2D hats.
Last edited by ThorN; Aug 2, 2019 @ 7:07pm
GgWw1175 Aug 2, 2019 @ 7:30am 
Worms Armageddon is, for the most part, Worms 2 but vastly expanded. It has more weapons, supports color maps and has a more fleshed out singleplayer campaign. That being said, there are a few things that Worms 2 has which weren't added in Armageddon:
- Three weapons from Worms 2 were removed from Armageddon, presumably for balancing reasons.
- Booby trapped crates were removed
- The weapon editor was scrapped and replaced with a basic weapon power setting


World Party was initially Armageddon with a few more features, but is now widely considered as inferior to Armageddon. This is because Armageddon received many patches after its release (and, from a certain point of view, is still being supported to this day).

Reloaded is just crap, don't even bother with it.


So pretty much the choice is between WMD and Armageddon.

WMD has vehicles and mounted guns. It also has a weapon crafting system, and technically more weapons than Armageddon (though they're mostly slight variations of the standard arsenal).
However, WMD doesn't let you modify the weapons' damage in any way. Armageddon also gives you way more options in regards to scheme customisation, and due to that it's possible to create schemes that just wouldn't be possible in WMD.

I own every non-spinoff Worms game on Steam expect for World Party Remastered. Generally speaking, whenever I feel like playing some Worms, I go with Armageddon. I just personally find it more enjoyable than the rest.

In case you do ever become interested in online multiplayer, both WMD and Armageddon have a fairly active playerbase. Though I'd say Armageddon will likely stay alive for much longer.
Ogzwyndż Aug 2, 2019 @ 8:01am 
Thanks for great and helpful responses!

hmm... so basically WMD is Armageddon, + new stuff like vehicles/turrets, - some customisation options?

haven't considered Clan Wars, looks interesting, what is that "2.5D nature" mentioned in the second post?

Originally posted by Rantsi:
. Too bad you missed the 67% discount.

yeah, but it's not like digital stores do not have discounts three million times per year xD I'll wait for another one, we still aren't done with overcooked.
GgWw1175 Aug 2, 2019 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by Ogzwyndż:
haven't considered Clan Wars, looks interesting, what is that "2.5D nature" mentioned in the second post?
3D graphics with 2D gameplay.
Ogzwyndż Aug 2, 2019 @ 8:50am 
so it does not effect gameplay, just looks? cool
ThorN Aug 2, 2019 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by MEGAGGWW11759:
Reloaded is just crap, don't even bother with it.

That's not helpful, and I disagree. It's a valid option.
HiTmAn Aug 2, 2019 @ 12:57pm 
gey w.m.d its good game with lot good players
Ogzwyndż Aug 3, 2019 @ 1:27am 
Speaking of discounts looks like humblebundle has a sale for the whole Worms franchise. See? That's what I'm talking about with missing a discount not being a problem xD

BTW what do you guys think of the 3d worms (Ultimate Mayhem I guess is the definitive edition?)
Last edited by Ogzwyndż; Aug 3, 2019 @ 1:28am
HiTmAn Aug 3, 2019 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by Ogzwyndż:
Speaking of discounts looks like humblebundle has a sale for the whole Worms franchise. See? That's what I'm talking about with missing a discount not being a problem xD

BTW what do you guys think of the 3d worms (Ultimate Mayhem I guess is the definitive edition?)
i play that game its fun..its very campy game
ThorN Aug 3, 2019 @ 9:03am 
Originally posted by Ogzwyndż:
Speaking of discounts looks like humblebundle has a sale for the whole Worms franchise. See? That's what I'm talking about with missing a discount not being a problem xD

BTW what do you guys think of the 3d worms (Ultimate Mayhem I guess is the definitive edition?)

Very fun single-player, but how much you enjoy the multiplayer depends on how casual you are I think. If you expect to play a lot with people who suck at Worms they might enjoy the 3D ones more since there's a lot less strategy and thinking required and more brute force.
Pharaoh Aug 3, 2019 @ 12:51pm 
Honestly dont listen to anyone here buy what you wanna buy

personally I consider worms world party pretty good but that's just me
Last edited by Pharaoh; Aug 3, 2019 @ 12:51pm
Ogzwyndż Aug 4, 2019 @ 10:44am 
Originally posted by Pharaoh:
Honestly dont listen to anyone here buy what you wanna buy

personally I consider worms world party pretty good but that's just me

thing is I can't know what I like before I buy and try xD asking ppl on forums isn't perfect but it's something!

not to mention there's been so many versions of Worms that it's simply confusing!

(I heard there's high chance World Party will have pretty crappy performance on current systems)
Last edited by Ogzwyndż; Aug 4, 2019 @ 10:44am
krinid Dec 7, 2023 @ 6:16pm 
What is the issue with WWP on modern systems? It's not like the Remastered version came out recently, how is this possible after so many years, lol? It ran fine on the systems of its time, how is it having troubles now that have still gone unpatched?
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