Cost of Party Balloon

[Rantsi]

I think Party Balloon should cost more than 4+2+0+0.

If you give players 6 x Sticky Donkey Paste at start to give them a chance to craft weapons like Gas Grenade or Triple Barrel Shotgun, you give them also access to 3 x Party Balloon, which is too much imo. Players can craft even more Party Balloons after they have uncrafted weapons they don't need. It's not uncommon to see someone craft four Party Balloons in a game. Party Balloon is very useful because you can get from lower ground to higher ground and with a combination of Parachute you can traverse the entire map. If the number of Jetpacks / Ninja Ropes is limited, people still use/waste them early on and craft cheap Party Balloons. "Save your mobility tools for the right moment" is no longer part of the game.

Make Party Balloon cost as much as Gas Grenade etc (4+4+0+0) like it was in earlier version. Anyone agree?

[Jonno]

Thanks for the feedback Rantsi!

Also congratulations on the Tournament win, I'll be updating the in-game Tournament news shortly to reflect your win.

I've sent you a FR on here to send you your prize too ;)

[```skunk3```]

I don't know if the answer is to make the balloon cost less to craft, or to urge the devs to implement greater customization options in schemes so that we can select what is and is not craftable in a match. I agree that the party balloon offers far too much mobility. In some ways it's actually far better than a rope.

...and you're right about saving mobility items. It doesn't even matter in WMD most of the time because people can just craft whatever they want. I feel that if you're playing a competitive scheme, you should be limited to the mobility items that you START WITH and you shouldn't be able to craft more. The only exception to this should be the parachute IMO.

We all know I'm not a huge fan of crafting in general because it allows people to make whatever item they need to win at a given moment. It takes away from classic Worms strategy.

[```skunk3```]

Btw, I watched the final and I saw a lot of balloon action. I said to myself that there is far too much crafted mobility going on.

[San]

Can the tournament final be rewatched somewhere, twitch or youtube by chance?

[Rantsi]

Originally posted by San:

Can the tournament final be rewatched somewhere, twitch or youtube by chance?

Yes, here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/119969859?t=01h30m13s

Bo3, 2-1

Not my best games but was enough this time

[```skunk3```]

Literally just lost a match because someone crafted a balloon at the last moment and was able to reach me even though they were out of movement items. Crafting is awesome!!!

[Rantsi]

4+2+0+0 -> 4+4+0+0 in the next patch please. I'm not alone with this view.

Originally posted by Euphytose:

Edit: Also, the balloon is the most cost efficient item in the game by a long shot. Increase its cost to 6/4 from 4/2

Originally posted by ```skunk3```:

Is there any plan to increase the crafting cost of the balloon and drone?

Originally posted by Ace (WG):

+1 for this, party baloons are basically making it so you dont need to rope or be good at firing any weapon.

Originally posted by DUKAPb:

Current ESL scheme is too stupid now. Party balloons at everywhere. You have enough resources for craft it many times. You do not need teleport, baseball bat and ninja rope too. You can uncraft them for getting more party balloons.

The current meta is to uncraft a weapon you don't need (W1 Rocket or Baseball Bat for example) and craft a Party Balloon. After this change you would need to uncraft 2 weapons for 1 balloon.

[```skunk3```]

Drone too.

[Jonno]

Feeding this back today.

Thanks all.

[Rantsi]

Originally posted by Jonno:

Feeding this back today.

Thanks all.

Any news on this?

Edit: The Forts mode announcement says "Bug fixes and tweaks" so I'm hopeful ;)

[```skunk3```]

Fingers crossed on a price increase for the balloon and drone.