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None of that worked, and the only way across was outside the town, on the main map, that boat that goes straight to malice, but theres a note saying that if you are on the love quest, you have to use the docks in town........but I used this anyway just wanting to see what malice looked like.
It worked. I just bypassed all the Spite stuff. The boat outside spite on the main map took me there, and there was the guy by the cart, outside spite, sayimg Samael was inside waiting for me.
So, screw Spite, for anyone looking how to continue your Love quest. Just take the boat on the main map, that is outside spite on the water.