Better then Ultima Online?

[connelld1965]

I have tried 4 or 5 times to get past the starting tutorial area and totally loose interest. I still play Ultima Online and have a blast playing that game. Thinking about trying this one more time and was wondering if it is worth it or should I just keep playing Ultima Online?

[Enthralling Victor]

I haven't played UO, but there are a significant number of players here who did. We had a 20th Anniversary party for PaxLair at the town in Shroud.

So no comparisons, but I can give you some tips to get over the beginner hump, because it is a tough one and there are many casualties.

I assume by beginner area you mean the Outskirts. If you haven't gotten to the Outskirts, and really mean the starting battle, then do make sure you finish that and get to the Outskirts. Just push through, don't pick everything up, the first area should only take about 10 minutes if you're talking to everyone. Maybe 15 minutes in the Highvale one (there are a couple more NPC's to talk to in the back half of the courtyard).

Ok, if you're losing interest in the Outskirts, there's a couple things you can do to freshen it up.

One, don't do it all yet, first go to town and open up Advanced Combat with the Combat Trainer. This really gives you a lot of options. (Don't do this if you are already overwhelmed).

Two, skip the Outskirts for now, go to the world map, find a nearby Player Owned Town with smoke coming out of the chimneys (someone is home) and go say hi. Start getting some community time. That's a huge draw of this game anyway, playing with others, and the Outskirts tend to be a pretty solo experience even if there are others doing them at the same time.

Check the Looking for Group tool. See if there are any events happening. If it's a Saturday, come to the PvP tournament and watch from the stands, starts at 4:30 Central Time. Come to the weekend dance parties, say hi, and talk to some other players, find some people who like to play your way.

Go check out the houses, check out some of the libraries people have put together, or the gardens, etc.

Then, after you've seen the "bigger picture" of the game, perhaps do the Outskirts again. Or skip them for now and group up with people and let them show you some harder areas.

Basically the Outskirts are the short tunnel to the entrance to the whole game. Not required, but set up to get you on your feet. If they are hanging you up, just exit immidiately and go check out the rest.

Feel free to /friend Vladamir Begemot, I'm often available to help. You can /w me as well.

Good luck, I hope you find what you're looking for!

[Brass Knuckles]

Originally posted by connelld1965:

I have tried 4 or 5 times to get past the starting tutorial area and totally loose interest. I still play Ultima Online and have a blast playing that game. Thinking about trying this one more time and was wondering if it is worth it or should I just keep playing Ultima Online?

I think at this stage id say not really, uo has a cpl decades of content already in it. In time this will rival uo, there is alot here that reminds me of uo.

Eps 2 brings deep sea fishing and treasure maps/hunting as an example.

[Bekido]

ill save you a long post, if your looking for something to continue after ultima online this is not the game for you. spiritual successor is being very generous with that term. its nothing like ultima other than starting out sucks and you can do anything you want. the pvp isnt anywhere near as good as ultima nor is it a full loot system. and being viable in pvp will take much longer than UO since theres no skill cap and people have been playing a long time already

[Wraitteli]

SOTA have nothing to with Ultima Online. Nothing at all. SOTA does not have same concepts, features or even attempts to copy Ultima Online

[connelld1965]

Thanks for the responses! I logged into my account and ran around a bit, wife showed up so logged off. I am thinking it's a game I might come back to now and then but will stick to Ultima Online.

[Turok64]

Am I missing something here?

UO was my favorite game for decades, and I only played the first two years of UO (dad canceled it).

This game surpasses UO in many ways. Better housing, better economy, much more advanced skill tree, no stupid level cap..etc..


One problem with this game as explained by Connell is the terrible first few hours of the game. I did not enjoy them but I forced my self to get through them and it was well worth it.

TLDR: Game in many ways is better than UO, learning curve sucks in SoTA but well worth it.

[Brass Knuckles]

Im talking from a depth perspective, uo has alot baked in over 20+ years. From graphics and ui sota is obviously better.

[Enthralling Victor]

The early hours are littered with causalties. Lots of people who make it over that hump stay for good.

[Bekido]

Originally posted by Turok64:

Am I missing something here?

UO was my favorite game for decades, and I only played the first two years of UO (dad canceled it).

This game surpasses UO in many ways. Better housing, better economy, much more advanced skill tree, no stupid level cap..etc..


One problem with this game as explained by Connell is the terrible first few hours of the game. I did not enjoy them but I forced my self to get through them and it was well worth it.

TLDR: Game in many ways is better than UO, learning curve sucks in SoTA but well worth it.

uhh yea you definately missed something lol

[epicandroid]

Someone needs to go tell all those people still playing UO that this game is better.

[Stupid Noob Gamer]

Originally posted by Wraitteli:

SOTA have nothing to with Ultima Online. Nothing at all. SOTA does not have same concepts, features or even attempts to copy Ultima Online

Are you daft?

SotA is INCREDIBLY similar.

From no "levels" to skilling each indiviual skill, for unique builds, to locations being ripped right out of Ultima lore (see Yew, Despise, Britania, etc). Lord British is even present in almost every Ultima ever, much less Online.

Hell, even the very IDEA of materializing from another realm (the real world) to become an "avatar" in another, is very present in Ultima lore.

After all, that's how Lord Cantabrigian British even came to rule the lands of Britania in the first place. Came from the real world to the outlands, via a moongate.

[gerald2]

Originally posted by Turok64:

Am I missing something here?

UO was my favorite game for decades, and I only played the first two years of UO (dad canceled it).

This game surpasses UO in many ways. Better housing, better economy, much more advanced skill tree, no stupid level cap..etc..


One problem with this game as explained by Connell is the terrible first few hours of the game. I did not enjoy them but I forced my self to get through them and it was well worth it.

TLDR: Game in many ways is better than UO, learning curve sucks in SoTA but well worth it.

level cap isnt stupid ,level cap make ppl to work as communities so u cant be everything ,here we will not have that everyone will be crafter warrior mage in one and its bad idea in my opinion,also its really total too grindy that game need resource and crafting balance its sick so u need 3 trees to make bow ...and such stuff gathering resourcess takes alot too much time considering how much resaourcess u need to do anything...difficulty markers practically no exist after last update i spot light orange mobs in tier 5 area and red for me wolves in tier 3 bandit area ...lol regular wolves not bosses or so

[Stupid Noob Gamer]

Originally posted by gerald2:

Originally posted by Turok64:

Am I missing something here?

UO was my favorite game for decades, and I only played the first two years of UO (dad canceled it).

This game surpasses UO in many ways. Better housing, better economy, much more advanced skill tree, no stupid level cap..etc..


One problem with this game as explained by Connell is the terrible first few hours of the game. I did not enjoy them but I forced my self to get through them and it was well worth it.

TLDR: Game in many ways is better than UO, learning curve sucks in SoTA but well worth it.

level cap isnt stupid ,level cap make ppl to work as communities so u cant be everything ,here we will not have that everyone will be crafter warrior mage in one and its bad idea in my opinion,also its really total too grindy that game need resource and crafting balance its sick so u need 3 trees to make bow ...and such stuff gathering resourcess takes alot too much time considering how much resaourcess u need to do anything...difficulty markers practically no exist after last update i spot light orange mobs in tier 5 area and red for me wolves in tier 3 bandit area ...lol regular wolves not bosses or so

I actually agree here.

Once all the bugs are woked out, I would love to see the stat and skill caps reimposed. Although, maybe at something higher than 225 and 700. Part of my frustration with UO was the fight between things I wanted to do, and having the skills and stats to do do.

Luckily though, once you earned the skill points it was easy to remove them from one place and put them somewhere else. Still, this time around, i'd love to see a little more leeway given. Somewhere in the realm of 300 for stats and 1200 for skills.

[Bekido]

theres what they call a soft cap, where it gets so expensive to raise its just not worth it. there will never be a skill / stat cap in this game.

[Turok64]

you are capped. your deck is limited. plus schools of magic work against each other.

Using decks you are capped.