Shadow Warrior 2

Shadow Warrior 2

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skyace65 2015 年 6 月 11 日 下午 2:11
kinda sad the original isn't canon anymore
and by original I mean the 1997 shadow warrior. I was pretty happy that when the 2013 game ended it pretty much setup the original, but reading the plot summary for this one on steam it seems like the original definitly isn't canon now. That being said based on what I'm reading this sounds oh so much more interesting and worth throwing out the originals story.
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Saltman 2015 年 8 月 27 日 下午 1:00 
I think he was trying to say what feminists were seeing wrong in these games, having no humor and all, not directly complaining.
In Duke killing the babes was also a penalty as it would spawn ♥♥♥♥ tons of aliens around you :p That's probably why killing them is less brought up when there are debates like this.
IMO there was no misogyny in these games ... Some people are LOOKING FOR stuff that are wrong where there aren't any.
haha nerds... 2015 年 8 月 27 日 下午 3:25 
引用自 Soul Eater
Hows this for irony? ...
What? I'm not offended by Shadow Warrior. It's one of my favorite games. I wasn't complaining about sexism and misogyny, I thought it was pretty obvious from my first comment I was joking.
Zaxx 2015 年 8 月 27 日 下午 3:43 
The time we currently live in is what makes discussions like this hard to have it seems.
haha nerds... 2015 年 8 月 27 日 下午 3:53 
引用自 Zaxx
The time we currently live in is what makes discussions like this hard to have it seems.
Haha yeah, looking back at it I kinda see how someone could take it for serious.
ZeroSbr 2015 年 8 月 27 日 下午 4:59 
引用自 Wilderness
引用自 Soul Eater
Hows this for irony? ...
What? I'm not offended by Shadow Warrior. It's one of my favorite games. I wasn't complaining about sexism and misogyny, I thought it was pretty obvious from my first comment I was joking.

No offense, but Soul Eater did a much better job of coming off as 'joking' XD
haha nerds... 2015 年 8 月 27 日 下午 5:02 
引用自 Alucard
No offense, but Soul Eater did a much better job of coming off as 'joking' XD
I didn't think it was needed to try, though; thinking that the concept of simply having an accent being racism was absurd enough.
ZeroSbr 2015 年 8 月 27 日 下午 5:51 
引用自 Wilderness
引用自 Alucard
No offense, but Soul Eater did a much better job of coming off as 'joking' XD
I didn't think it was needed to try, though; thinking that the concept of simply having an accent being racism was absurd enough.

What I meant was, he was funnier.
gleem 2015 年 9 月 10 日 下午 5:26 
引用自 skyace65
and by original I mean the 1997 shadow warrior. I was pretty happy that when the 2013 game ended it pretty much setup the original, but reading the plot summary for this one on steam it seems like the original definitly isn't canon now. That being said based on what I'm reading this sounds oh so much more interesting and worth throwing out the originals story.
no, what i think is that with the classic one, its long in the future because he's old in that one so now thay can have more sequels to the 2013 one and the it'll probably end the whole series with him buying a dojo and then hearing bang out side, which will start the classic one
Joe Stanley Laserpants 2015 年 9 月 12 日 上午 1:10 
引用自 JohnnyTheWolf - Qc
To be fair, though, Shadow Warrior 2013 is still as misogynistic as the original.

Excuse me, but you can't just label the new Shadow Warrior as misogynistic and claim it's "to be fair". This is for two reasons:

1) There are hardly any women in 2013 Shadow Warrior in the first place. There are female demons that attack you and yes, you must kill them, but they are dispatched with no more or less violence than the male demons, and I don't recall Lo Wang making any sexist jokes at their expense. I didn't even know some of the demons were female until I saw some of the game artwork. The 2D cutoff girls from the original Shadow Warrior don't count, because they are simply retro easter eggs. You can't even interact with them. You certainly can't kill them, like you could in the original game. Sexist, sure, but not misogynistic. Which bring me to my second point...

2) You obviously don't understand the definition of misogyny, so your application of the label to the new Shadow Warrior is plainly incorrect. The only female character in the game of any consequence is Ameonna, the weeping demon maiden. She is pivotal to the plot, and a tragic figure, but she's not treated as a posession, or a sexual plaything, and she's not oppressed because of her sex. Rather, she is the sole provider of something that the demon world simply cannot live without. Since her happiness means the death of the demon realm, she is under a curse to never be happy. That's not misogyny, or sexism. Ameonna and Hoji's sexes could have been switched and the story would have been practically the same.

t850terminator 2015 年 10 月 10 日 上午 12:58 
引用自 Joe Mega Lasertron
引用自 JohnnyTheWolf - Qc
To be fair, though, Shadow Warrior 2013 is still as misogynistic as the original.

Excuse me, but you can't just label the new Shadow Warrior as misogynistic and claim it's "to be fair". This is for two reasons:

1) There are hardly any women in 2013 Shadow Warrior in the first place. There are female demons that attack you and yes, you must kill them, but they are dispatched with no more or less violence than the male demons, and I don't recall Lo Wang making any sexist jokes at their expense. I didn't even know some of the demons were female until I saw some of the game artwork. The 2D cutoff girls from the original Shadow Warrior don't count, because they are simply retro easter eggs. You can't even interact with them. You certainly can't kill them, like you could in the original game. Sexist, sure, but not misogynistic. Which bring me to my second point...

2) You obviously don't understand the definition of misogyny, so your application of the label to the new Shadow Warrior is plainly incorrect. The only female character in the game of any consequence is Ameonna, the weeping demon maiden. She is pivotal to the plot, and a tragic figure, but she's not treated as a posession, or a sexual plaything, and she's not oppressed because of her sex. Rather, she is the sole provider of something that the demon world simply cannot live without. Since her happiness means the death of the demon realm, she is under a curse to never be happy. That's not misogyny, or sexism. Ameonna and Hoji's sexes could have been switched and the story would have been practically the same.

Also
3) Wang is actually pretty likeable in the reboot.


I'm really liking this trend of rebooting/sequel to old FPS games following the HL2 route (aka adding the feels to the murder)

So when do Duke Nukem and Sam Stone get their turn?
haha nerds... 2015 年 10 月 10 日 上午 1:31 
I'd say Wang was always likeable.
Saltman 2015 年 10 月 10 日 上午 1:40 
引用自 t850terminator
So when do Duke Nukem and Sam Stone get their turn?

IMO Serious Sam doesn't need a reboot. It needs SS4 ^^
RapterRanger 2015 年 10 月 10 日 下午 12:56 
Well, this is a reboot to Shadow Warrior so tossing out the original makes some sence
haha nerds... 2015 年 10 月 10 日 下午 3:18 
引用自 TenDarrah
Well, this is a reboot to Shadow Warrior so tossing out the original makes some sence
I kinda liked it better as a prequel, though.
General Plastro 2015 年 11 月 23 日 下午 7:57 
Not sure if it was already bought up or not but.

Just like Duke Nukem is a homage to all the 80's action heroes/actors (Arnold/Stallone/Kurt Russel/etc), Shadow Warrior is a homage to all 80's (or earlier) asian fighting movies (Bruce Lee and specially Godfrey Ho movies), along with all the steriotypícal asian culture that was bought up to the west (which was not as popular when SW first came out).

Heck, we all know 3d realms didint even sticked with just to the "westernized" asian pop culture (manga/movies etc), we have Monty Python references and such.

So before anyone go on crying about sexism/whatever. This is a parody, an elaborate and fun one, but still parody.

Its like complaining South Park or Family Guy is not politically correct.

The sad part of all of this? Flying Wild Hog decided to not continue the first game's legacy and instead just turned its story into a more generic fantasy one.
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