this game is underrated

[papalazarou]

I think maybe people are missing the point. This game ia amazing. Its like a super futuristic arcade game. I cant find anything bad to say about this game, and theres nothing i would change either. I just hope they add some expansion or dlc.

[jaedenky]

From a gameplay perspective its incredible, on its own merit its a great game. Both remakes though fail to capture the same essence and style of the 1997 Shadow Warrior. But yes, this is an amazing game.

[PAULEIGEE]

I totally agree with you. I cant wait for dlc for SW 2. I have to say Flying Wild Hog knows how to make First Person Shooters!!! and and ..... They make them run great!

[Dwane Dibbley]

Most ppl hate game, cuz some "reviewer" said it sux (literaly, these ppl didnt even played game and hate it). Some just dont like it cuz its VERY different from SW1. Some just dont like genre...

[Spaghettacus]

I don’t know about capturing the essence of SW1 considering that it didn't really have an essence of its own to begin with. SW1 was basically Duke Nukem 3D with worse level design, worse enemies, worse music, and less content. It falls short even compared to games also released around the same time.

I hate it when people consider SW1 some holy relic of a golden era when it was just a mediocre shooter even for its time. I also hate it when people say that SW2013 was astounding when it was nothing more than a solid action game with a good story and restrictive level design.

[PAULEIGEE]

You hit that on that head there Dibbley. The game is amazing and FWH knows what they are doing. They have talent no doubt. Im glad to see i share the same opinion as you. that means there are a whole lot more of us out there. I cant wait for more from FWH and im not even done with this game yet. That says a lot for SW2.

[Ponyeater]

This game is like Borderlands with an actual responsive combat system, rather than Borderlands' MMO ville forgiving hitboxes and no option to dodge properly.

It's pretty solid except for the dreaded lack of level design. The procedal generation doesn't seem to have too many layouts to work with, every level of it's own theme looks the same. That's a big negative for me.

[SenilBiffen]

Most of the thing related to loot are badly made but the rest of the game is awesome. For now i still hold the first game as the better one.

[fuegerstef]

It is like an arcade game?

Well, I cannot remember any arcade game in which you spend so long in your inventory to upgrade the most simple stuff.

[Serath]

It's fine the game isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I find it amazing that I'm seeing so many people on the forums hating on the game just because the game has changed into a linear well-structured (which can be subjective on it's own) campaign and expecting the same kind of deal in the second.

The features are clearly stated on the store page; if anyone thinks this game is more of the same based on that probably has never played a dungeon crawler. They are not obligied to stick to the same formula. (As if there was a formula to begin with.) Yet people who don't like the genre, (which is fine) buy the game anyway and then yet still complain. Wh-what? I can understand FWH they said they were going for the same deal and then didn't, but that's not the case here. The people who didn't read the features have no one else to blame but themselves.

We get it, it's not like SW 2013 (which in turn isn't even like SW 1997 either), and no doubt it really is a bummer for people who wanted more of the same. But its like everyone is raising the pitchfork or crying holy hell just because FWH wanted to try something new. Move on.

They're not obliged to stick the same formula, and like jadenkey said, it's not like either of them "captured the essence" of the original anyway, and even THAT game wasn't completley original, it was just Duke Nukem 3D with different assets. (And for the record, I'm not downing any of these games.) FWH is even generous enough to only charge the game for as much as PC games used to cost back in the day of the very orginals.

SW2013 is just as "nostalgic for the fans" as much as Doom is nostalgic to 1993 Doom...oh, wait...both reboots have lite RPG mechanics allowing you to focus on different playstyles while the originals don't. But what about Woflenstien New Or..nope...that game too!

"Why don't I just play Borderlands?"

Just because one game has already done it, doesn't mean nobody else is allowed to try. BL isn't even really the best comparison anyway IMO, I'd say it's a cross between BL and Dead Island, as this game equally focuses both on melee combat and guns, with the full random generation of Diablo as well. (Ok well, maybe Warframe or Hellgate London, you get the idea.)

Yeah, the level design is samey, but you try and create a million enviornments tilesets (in 3D) that connect to each other in believeable ways. 2D dungeon crawling this is not. Personally I feel the Japanese towns in SW1 are no more well thought-out than the randomly generated ones in SW2.

Originally posted by fuegerstef:

It is like an arcade game?

Well, I cannot remember any arcade game in which you spend so long in your inventory to upgrade the most simple stuff.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. The shooting defiently feels arcadey, but twitchy as well cause of the movement.

Taking the time to upgrade your aresenal is pretty much the heart of an RPG. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but it seems that people who are bugged by this seem to have short attention spans if all they want to do is just rush rush rush through the levels instead of taking the time to at least attempting to enjoy what the game is trying to offer.

[Cuddle Bunny!]

This game is the most overrated game of 2016.

[Serath]

Originally posted by Cuddle Bunny!:

This game is the most overrated game of 2016.

Nice comeback. BTW, it lacks context, try harder.

[Tram]

Originally posted by Cuddle Bunny!:

This game is the most overrated game of 2016.

For someone that sure doesnt like the game you sure do like being in its forum because of TB.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by Serath:

Originally posted by Cuddle Bunny!:

This game is the most overrated game of 2016.

Nice comeback.

Comback? Hes trollking in so many threads, its not rly comeback.

[Serath]

Originally posted by Dwane Dibbley:

Originally posted by Serath:

Nice comeback.

Comback? Hes trollking in so many threads, its not rly comeback.

You ever notice when someone likes something, they explain why, but when they hate something, most people just tend to insult without saying anything constructive? Funny that. But yeah, troll I guess.

[Kref]

Great minds think equally!

I've already suggested several dlcs in that theme - http://steamcommunity.com/app/324800/discussions/0/341537388321229132/?ctp=57 .

Here's the list of suggested dlcs (to be made in nearest months):

november 2016: "A way of the hamster" dlc - tougher enemies for weapons with 4K dps, max grind - 12K dps, $10
january 2017: "Bloody dogs run" dlc - enemies for weaponry with 12K dps, 30K dps max farm, $13
march 2017: "Horse of doom" dlc - enemies for weaponry with 30K dps, 100K dps max farm, $20
june 2017: "Hawk of the storms" dlc - enemies for weaponry with 100K dps, 350K dps max farm, $30
august 2017: "Demons rage" dlc - enemies for weaponry with 350K dps, 1 millon dps max farm, $45.

Please let the devs know that you do support my idea!