Ryuken Chi Blast Question

[FinalZe|2o]

I was just wondering if the Chi Blast proc from Ryuken utilizes your player leveled version of Chi Blast or a basic one? I ask because I currently haven't leveled Chi Blast at all.

[JackieTheDemon]

It does.

[(Gk) Erasels]

Warning, fully leveling chi-last will make Ryuken lag the game with high crit chance. The moment destrucctible stuff is in my near victinity I need to switch or I get real bad ag problems.

[JackieTheDemon]

I like having a weapon so powerful it lags my game.

[Void Reaper]

Also - even though the damage seems a bit low(since you can't use top tier upgrades for it), it does seems nifty efficient even against all kind of special mobs(champions, elites).
When I chain few crits with it nothing can get off the ground - by my observations(because - you know - it's a friggin massacre and you can't really be 100% certain) - even the powers immune stuff get knocked from the blast.
So yea - seems like all the talents do apply to that chi blast - resistance lowering ones included.

[FinalZe|2o]

Thanks for the replies. It's pretty hilarious watching everything getting blown away, yet it's a bit annoying when using AOE attacks to have them get knocked back and scattered.

[flamedance58]

Well if you have Arcane Mastery then it boosts the chance of it knocking back even special enemies and don't forget the amulet that boosts the chance ot effect special enemies by another 50%.

[Nebujin]

It does partly, but if you equip +dmg% upgrades against knocked back enemies they wont get the debuff. Maybe they fixed this meanwhile, but enemies didnt get the dmg-debuff before this patch unless you cast chi blast yourself.

[Pig Mac]

It's more or less really good for fury builds, but when you filled all points, you will have the chi-blast too, (I only used a 1 point chiblast on a wall once) and it only have a chance to proc fill fury 100% when killing something, so big bosses without minions give no real boost to it's fury refill.
There normal fury and best DMG weap for situation is usually better.

[76561198050837721]

Originally posted by Pigmachine:

There normal fury and best DMG weap for situation is usually better.

Thats not completely true, ryuken helps you get fury back way faster.

[Pig Mac]

10% chance to restore 100% Fury on 'Special Kill'

If bodyparts on big bosses don't coun't at a kill when critting?, it doesn't help anything else then first Kamiko, where you fury kill the 'guards' and they only show up once? Not sure, as I never had any drawn out battle with her lately.

http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/Pigmachine/ryuk_zpsgefqfnrb.jpg

[Nebujin]

Originally posted by notrius:

Originally posted by Pigmachine:

There normal fury and best DMG weap for situation is usually better.

Thats not completely true, ryuken helps you get fury back way faster.

People forget about a lot of benefits in combination with using Ryuken + Shadow Fury duration & dmg% upgrades. Ryukens weapon dmg is pretty high, and to use it properly you only need sting & vortex-attacks anyway. Thats why dps dont matter in combination with Ryuken, they are calculated by mouse1-attacks x weapon dmg x stats. Ryuken is all about weapon dmg + high crit values together with alot of critdmg%.

The pros in using Ryuken + upgraded Shadow Fury

At least 5% lifeleech
At least 75% resistance
Auto - Chi Blast on critical strike. Crowdcontrol while dealing dmg, nice!
Shadow Fury also slows the enemy down, alot... no ice effects needed.
100% Shadow Fury uptime if you do it right, until there are nomore enemies left.


PS: 75% resistance saves you alot of armor/weapon upgrades, which you can then use to push your dmg/dps instead. Double crowdcontrol with Chi Blast & slowing enemies down. Alot of lifeleech for free. I think people really underestimate this weapon.

[Pig Mac]

Made my 'loadout' public.. so I consider there are.. better options available for me.
No! NOT edited weapons, just amount of money, and orbs.. and always tell potential Coop players that it's not honest money.. anyone belive my Five-O actually do 2k+ DPS? ..with the ninja touch amulet equipped? I don't.. it's from stupid multiplication from the armor slots. I really really tried out the forge to the max. And can claim it's 85% totally random, and 3 different elemental gems have a higher chance of becoming the one you 'want'

Oh an a change of one number in the meta to access insane 7 forge, and it restores itself when you log out.

[Nebujin]

Originally posted by Pigmachine:

Made my 'loadout' public.. so I consider there are.. better options available for me.
No! NOT edited weapons, just amount of money, and orbs.. and always tell potential Coop players that it's not honest money.. anyone belive my Five-O actually do 2k+ DPS? ..with the ninja touch amulet equipped? I don't.. it's from stupid multiplication from the armor slots. I really really tried out the forge to the max. And can claim it's 85% totally random, and 3 different elemental gems have a higher chance of becoming the one you 'want'

Oh an a change of one number in the meta to access insane 7 forge, and it restores itself when you log out.

Sounds fair, depending on the weapon dmg and fire rate. My Ghidorah was at 2,8k dps with Ninja Touch (was* because i rolled back to test other weapons).
-30% on Ghidorah is around 2,2k dps. So i guess 2k for Five-O are acceptable/realistic.

[Nebujin]

Originally posted by Nebujin383:

People forget about a lot of benefits in combination with using Ryuken + Shadow Fury duration & dmg% upgrades. Ryukens weapon dmg is pretty high, and to use it properly you only need sting & vortex-attacks anyway. Thats why dps dont matter in combination with Ryuken, they are calculated by mouse1-attacks x weapon dmg x stats. Ryuken is all about weapon dmg + high crit values together with alot of critdmg%.

The pros in using Ryuken + upgraded Shadow Fury

At least 5% lifeleech
At least 75% resistance
Auto - Chi Blast on critical strike. Crowdcontrol while dealing dmg, nice!
Shadow Fury also slows the enemy down, alot... no ice effects needed.
100% Shadow Fury uptime if you do it right, until there are nomore enemies left.


PS: 75% resistance saves you alot of armor/weapon upgrades, which you can then use to push your dmg/dps instead. Double crowdcontrol with Chi Blast & slowing enemies down. Alot of lifeleech for free. I think people really underestimate this weapon.

Forgot to add that you also deal additional dmg with Shadow Fury... Ryuken rocks.

[Pig Mac]

Speaking of 'fair' I don't really think this one turreted! do this much dmg, just a test to see if piercing dmg stacked, Only notepad++ used to money and orb (and TMP access to I7 forge)

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