do you guys invest in the "Karma Harvester" skill??

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

The reason for this question, is because people saying how the karma gains either slow down significantly or completely stops on easier difficulty settings, and forces the player to go on harder setting to continue gaining karma from farming enemies.

but the max-skill gives you 15% more karma, that can be boosted further by equipping certain armor upgrade relics.

[Crucible]

The karma penalty only happened on 1.1.3. 1.1.4 inverts this, restoring the normal karma gain rate on Easy and Normal, and boosting the karma gain on Hard and all 4 tiers of Insane SIGNIFICANTLY.

Personally, I don't use that skill, as the karma I get from Insane T1 is meaty enough.

[Vin]

im using it till i hit max lvl then the points are getting recycled into something else. i dont use the shop card because crafting

[Maryutcho]

i use it too and i will do the same as vindicator and recycl them

[wakey wakey]

Use it till max lvl and than respec afterwards.

You just don't need the points otherwise if you run a melee build. You just don't need the points anywhere else at all. At around ~60 you should have all the valuable skills and everything afterwards is just nice to have.

But tbh I still have it in my 96 build because there is just nothing else useful I could skill instead and better invest the 500k money cost into gem upgrades. :> Nothing I would invest those points into would benefit me in any way.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Its waste. 15% is like nothing, u get more from single gem and after last patch, leveling is megaeasy.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by Maryutcho:

i use it too and i will do the same as vindicator and recycl them

true that

[cassiels]

No.

Most games have a perk that gives you extra XP. But levelling up faster than required or intended makes the game too easy too quickly.

These days with devs catering more for the casual console gamers than for us hardcore pc gamers, I must do all I can to keep a game challenging, even on higher difficulties.

I usually play on normal first to get the story. Next on hard or higher to get the achievements. And then on the highest difficulty for fun.

[NonSense514]

after beating the game on every difficulty and then on t4 insane.... i decided to use a trainer and give me max skill points. everything is maxed out lol

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by wakey wakey:

Use it till max lvl and than respec afterwards.

You just don't need the points otherwise if you run a melee build. You just don't need the points anywhere else at all. At around ~60 you should have all the valuable skills and everything afterwards is just nice to have.

But tbh I still have it in my 96 build because there is just nothing else useful I could skill instead and better invest the 500k money cost into gem upgrades. :> Nothing I would invest those points into would benefit me in any way.

well I am doing a Melee/Gun hybrid build, which was why I intentionally purchased the Raven minigun and upgraded it to do 100% Ice Damage (pretty much saving it for the really heavy-hitters vulnerable to ice damage), while slowly working my way up the difficulty settings.

as for melee goes, so far, the only 2 skills that seems pretty damn useful, is both the Sting (Divider-of-Heavens) and Force Slash (Wing-of-Crane) skills. you could use the Vortex skill and fully upgrade that, but after some testing, it's not quite as useful as one would think (especially since the enemies have their HP boosted on the harder settings.

as for the healing, i'd combine both the "One-with-Nature" and the "Overheal" skills together. And my reason for that, is because since the former skill regenerates your health slowly, you can synergize that to work with "The Frog" amulet (which also regenerates your health). and if you invested in "Overheal", you can use (and abuse) the green healing shrines to keep your health up during boss/mini-boss fights.

[sno0ks]

I never use any ability/perk in any RPG that makes you gain XP faster. I usually don't have a problem leveling and those points are better put elsewhere.

[Wasabi Wei]

Originally posted by Dirty Blue Balls:

after beating the game on every difficulty and then on t4 insane.... i decided to use a trainer and give me max skill points. everything is maxed out lol

Badass who uses a trainer program..There is an oxymoron for you. Care to explain what you learned from this experiment? Anything of use to share? I am glad that the game is free to mod etc..Denuvo is all over the place and it does not bother me but at the same time I respect that FWH did not go that route. Are you trying to act like you hacked something, imagining that you uncovered a security hole? This is a relatively open game, deliberately. Kudos to the devs, not sure what your post was about though.

[NonSense514]

Originally posted by Wasabi Wei:

Originally posted by Dirty Blue Balls:

after beating the game on every difficulty and then on t4 insane.... i decided to use a trainer and give me max skill points. everything is maxed out lol

Badass who uses a trainer program..There is an oxymoron for you. Care to explain what you learned from this experiment? Anything of use to share? I am glad that the game is free to mod etc..Denuvo is all over the place and it does not bother me but at the same time I respect that FWH did not go that route. Are you trying to act like you hacked something, imagining that you uncovered a security hole? This is a relatively open game, deliberately. Kudos to the devs, not sure what your post was about though.

what i meant is after completing the game 100% MULTIPLE times and have NOTHING left to do, i decided to use a trainer to max out some things that you normally can't. and saying im trying to act like if i found a security hole? HAHAHAHAAH thats hilarious