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Batman Dec 11, 2016 @ 3:23pm
Making insanity 7 easy
Spoke in another discussion about dmg resist cap and tried doing this:
https://youtu.be/41dFPOFggCE

Basically used all the dmg resist upgrades in the world.
Made tanking a group of mob at insanity 7 seem way too easy.
Last edited by Batman; Dec 11, 2016 @ 3:51pm
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76561198050837721 Dec 11, 2016 @ 4:06pm 
Get some life drain
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Batman Dec 11, 2016 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by notrius:
Get some life drain

Thanks, good idea except I lack the gem of that combination. This is the best config I can make from the stuff I have.
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76561198050837721 Dec 11, 2016 @ 5:20pm 
It's painful to watch 12min trial and seeing you constantly healing. Get any life drain (on armor, weapon) and your fight will be much smoother. Also i would recommend some negative enemy elemental resist on your gems, its way more usable at I6+ level compared to standard chc/chd combo.
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Batman Dec 11, 2016 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by notrius:
It's painful to watch 12min trial...
Nah.. If you do the math, all dmg resist config is still better than swapping one out for life drain. I actually tried one run after your comment and found the actualy gameplay reflective of the math.

I dont really need to reduce weakness to be honest.. If I used the element they are weak against I'm already doing double dmg, reducing weakness improves dmg too little beyond that. So crit still wins.
Last edited by Batman; Dec 11, 2016 @ 5:31pm
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Batman Dec 11, 2016 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by notrius:
It's painful to watch 12min trial...
Oh yeah, forgot to mention. You can watch it at x2 speed on youtube. That might make it less painful.

Also, I have a video of the same trial same difficulty but only 5mins:
https://youtu.be/L_cyuhmmobQ

This spec is alittle more dmg focused but I run the risk of getting one shot by a single strong mob.. And since I can die more easily I can't watch tv while I play.

Could clear trial faster if I go full fledged dmg but the risk of dying will increase.
Last edited by Batman; Dec 11, 2016 @ 8:23pm
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Sugam Dec 11, 2016 @ 9:53pm 
Does not sound like fun to be so "try hard" in this kind of game but I am always up for more increase to the games difficulties :)
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wakey wakey Dec 11, 2016 @ 10:55pm 
Atm T7 is kinda easy and at the same time completly overtuned. The real issue is that the moment you switch a weapon/try to cast shadow fury or any other spell you're insta dead.

As long you just keep attacking with autoattacks(r1/left mouse) you're fine. Use anything else or try to switch a weapon and your 400hp are gone in just under a second. It's boring as hell and not rewarding at all. T5/6 is way quicker and you don't have 90% physical/electrical/ice immun enemies.

Dunno why but every run on T7 I did every single mob was physical immune and on top of that either ice/electrical immune which just takes an eternity instead of like ~20-30 seconds on T5/6.(+40sec loading screen afterwards -.-)

Even with 2,5k dps weapons and 400hp/80% absorb/10%ll T7 is just not worth it all. It takes too long and you can die from a single jump near you of a Talon/Juggernaut with 400+100hp(500hp). ^^

Worst thing is as I said before you can't afford to weapon switch or use anything else than stupidly spamming your auto attack or otherwise you insta die.
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76561198050837721 Dec 12, 2016 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Batman:
Originally posted by notrius:
It's painful to watch 12min trial...
Nah.. If you do the math, all dmg resist config is still better than swapping one out for life drain. I actually tried one run after your comment and found the actualy gameplay reflective of the math.

I dont really need to reduce weakness to be honest.. If I used the element they are weak against I'm already doing double dmg, reducing weakness improves dmg too little beyond that. So crit still wins.

It's a balance between speed and safety. Both your runs are extremely "safe" and slow. Maybe incorporate shadow fury into it and you won't need to stack crazy damage resist.
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Batman Dec 12, 2016 @ 4:04am 
Originally posted by notrius:
It's a balance between speed and safety. Both your runs are extremely "safe" and slow.

Thanks for the nice summary. I want to be sure not to die. I always play with safety 1st mentality since I HATE dying. I'm a little predispositioned since most game discourage dying with penalties.

You are right about shadow fury, its noob not to keep using it over n over but I just don't feel like it.

In anycase, personal style aside I think we can see that playing at insanity 7 can be quite safe i.e. you can spec so that you can't be one-shot and you can watch tv while you play.
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76561198050837721 Dec 12, 2016 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by Batman:
Originally posted by notrius:
It's a balance between speed and safety. Both your runs are extremely "safe" and slow.

Thanks for the nice summary. I want to be sure not to die. I always play with safety 1st mentality since I HATE dying. I'm a little predispositioned since most game discourage dying with penalties.

You are right about shadow fury, its noob not to keep using it over n over but I just don't feel like it.

In anycase, personal style aside I think we can see that playing at insanity 7 can be quite safe i.e. you can spec so that you can't be one-shot and you can watch tv while you play.

Thats the beauty of loot oriented games, promoting different playstyles.
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Batman Dec 12, 2016 @ 4:20am 
Originally posted by wakey wakey:
Atm T7 is kinda easy...you're insta dead...~20-30 seconds on T5/6..... 400hp/80% absorb/10%....

Well, that mean its not easy afterall? Except the difficulty didn't come in a way you consider typical or acceptable. I made the video just to make a point that you can make it so easy that its hard to die rather than as a fast way to farm orbs.

Mathematically speaking, Insanity 7 is 2.55 times harder than Insanity 4. But their respective orb gaine are 57 vs 42 respectively. So, only 1.35 times more for insanity 7. I'm sure if you do simple and compare you can find the easiest and fastest way to farm orbs.

30seconds trail run at Insanity 6 would be interesting to watch you should share a video or something I suppose. Unless if you're one of the guys who cheated, then I guess there's nth fun to watch.
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Batman Dec 12, 2016 @ 4:21am 
Originally posted by notrius:
Thats the beauty of loot oriented games, promoting different playstyles.
:D
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Batman Dec 12, 2016 @ 4:34am 
Originally posted by wakey wakey:
2,5k dps weapons and 400hp/80% absorb/10%...you insta die.

Yeah.. The point of the discussion to be honest. If you spec the way I did, Insanity 7 can be REALLY safe. Basically impossible to get killed in one jump by Talon/Jugg. Don't even need 400 Hp. I only had 150 Hp.

But you will clear trials REALLY slow as well. So theres a trade-off
Last edited by Batman; Dec 12, 2016 @ 5:19am
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