Star Wars Versus Halo

[Yan Lolita]

After reading some discussions on this topic online, Thrawn has overall been disappointed by the responses and claims that people have made about this topic, and yet Thrawn still has this idle curiosity over this topic. And so he asks you guys about your opion on the topic, who would win and why.

Edit:Apologies for being a bit vague, Thrawn was refering to the UNSC and the Convenant against the Galactic Empire and Rebel Alliance.

PS: All factions in this era are in their prime, Yoda Episode 3, Palpatine Dark Empire Etc.

[The Royal Cheesewagon]

bit of a vauge vs. you've got major factions in both universes so theres a lot to cover. then theres the other stuff to compare like how star wars if sci fi fantacy while halo is just sci fi. then theres the storytelling of each brand. then you get the fandoms. if your talking about faction vs faction then give a set up like empire vs covenant or first order vs unsc. or flood vs yu zhang vong. and if it's story telling and which has the best universe then well it come down to which you like better. having said all that. it would be interesting seeing a spartan go toe to toe with a jedi or something to that effect.

[V]

yeah like a jedi could crush a spartan's armor, but MJOLNIR armor is designed to be able to detect and counter crushing force. force lightning is just plasma and the shields are built to counter that. but maybe jedi mind tricks would be too hard to ignore? good question even if it is, like tyber said, vague

[Pyrimidal]

Well, the naval (spaceship) debate depends on what era you're using for both sides. If it's Clone Wars era, then I'm fairly sure Halo would win due to their superior capital ships and cruisers (e.g. Pillar of Autum).

But in the Galactic Empire Era... I think Star Wars would win at that point due to the Empire having one of the greatest navies, with a vast number of support and ship-decimating capital ships. In terms of troops, Star Wars would probably win every time unless you took them pre-Old Republic. They have better tanks, troops, armor, and whatnot. It's pretty likely one Republic commando or ARC trooper would be the equivalent of a genetically-modified Spartan I (the ones who were taken from childhood).

[V]

yeah but stormtroopers were modified to be less intelligent, more willing to follow orders. while spartans were meant to think smarter and faster than the average grunt. im just playing devil's advocate btw, its a cool topic.
human fleets only had conventional weaponsas well, while those in star wars had plasma based torpedo weapons. so honestly the ships in SW would be superior, more like covenant ships but with human pilots

[Pyrimidal]

Originally posted by Sin:

yeah but stormtroopers were modified to be less intelligent, more willing to follow orders. while spartans were meant to think smarter and faster than the average grunt. im just playing devil's advocate btw, its a cool topic.
human fleets only had conventional weaponsas well, while those in star wars had plasma based torpedo weapons. so honestly the ships in SW would be superior, more like covenant ships but with human pilots

You can't compare stormtroopers to spartans, it's a completely unfair comparison. Stormtroopers should be compared to UNSC marines, as both made up the main ranks of their respective armies. Compare Spartans to Imerial Commandos or other spec. ops units in the Empire, and they'd probably be crushed with ease.

In naval combat, remember the UNSC also had to fight the Covenant, who had plasma-based weapons. They still won. I believe in the Galactic-Empire era they wouldn't stand a chance, but compare UNSC ships to the Republic and UNSC stands a good chance.

[Yan Lolita]

In naval combat, remember the UNSC also had to fight the Covenant, who had plasma-based weapons. They still won. I believe in the Galactic-Empire era they wouldn't stand a chance, but compare UNSC ships to the Republic and UNSC stands a good chance.

The UNSC didn't win the war, they survived. Big difference.

[V]

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also comparing stormtroopers to marines if you go by that logic is unfair. marines are every day joe's like you or me. stormtroopers are clones of the "ideal warrior" if you understand where im going. by default they should be superior to normal soldiers.
and like i said, if the covenant had human strategists/pilots/captains the war would've been over much quicker, they had better weapons, technology, the ability to make pinpoint jumps. the only things the humans had were there tenacity and human intuition. theres a real deus ex machina(see: master chief) in the Halo series to keep the humans winning against all odds

[Pyrimidal]

Originally posted by Sin:

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also comparing stormtroopers to marines if you go by that logic is unfair. marines are every day joe's like you or me. stormtroopers are clones of the "ideal warrior" if you understand where im going. by default they should be superior to normal soldiers.
and like i said, if the covenant had human strategists/pilots/captains the war would've been over much quicker, they had better weapons, technology, the ability to make pinpoint jumps. the only things the humans had were there tenacity and human intuition. theres a real deus ex machina(see: master chief) in the Halo series to keep the humans winning against all odds

The vast majority of stormtroopers were humans, not clones. You're thinking of the Clone Troopers. Palpatine stopped the production of clones after the Kamino Uprising (Kaminoans bred secret clones to build an army to lift the Imperial occupation) because he no longer trusted a group of soldiers being trained together by 1 entity. The empire switched over to humans after that.

By the way, the humans did have some very good tech in the war with the covenant. Their ships could deliever one hell of a beatdown, and their weapons were very capable of punching through covenant armor. Plus their Spartans absolutely destroyed every Covenant soldier in their way, and could probably take down a small army with their strategic intellect, armor, and enough big guns. They could probably take out an entire army with either a Spartan squad or one Spartan and a platoon of marines with vehicles.

[Iron Ben]

Originally posted by Silverstrike:

The vast majority of stormtroopers were humans, not clones. You're thinking of the Clone Troopers. Palpatine stopped the production of clones after the Kamino Uprising (Kaminoans bred secret clones to build an army to lift the Imperial occupation) because he no longer trusted a group of soldiers being trained together by 1 entity. The empire switched over to humans after that.

By the way, the humans did have some very good tech in the war with the covenant. Their ships could deliever one hell of a beatdown, and their weapons were very capable of punching through covenant armor. Plus their Spartans absolutely destroyed every Covenant soldier in their way, and could probably take down a small army with their strategic intellect, armor, and enough big guns. They could probably take out an entire army with either a Spartan squad or one Spartan and a platoon of marines with vehicles.

Until the AT-ATs start showing up...




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[Pyrimidal]

Originally posted by Iron Ben:

Originally posted by Silverstrike:

The vast majority of stormtroopers were humans, not clones. You're thinking of the Clone Troopers. Palpatine stopped the production of clones after the Kamino Uprising (Kaminoans bred secret clones to build an army to lift the Imperial occupation) because he no longer trusted a group of soldiers being trained together by 1 entity. The empire switched over to humans after that.

By the way, the humans did have some very good tech in the war with the covenant. Their ships could deliever one hell of a beatdown, and their weapons were very capable of punching through covenant armor. Plus their Spartans absolutely destroyed every Covenant soldier in their way, and could probably take down a small army with their strategic intellect, armor, and enough big guns. They could probably take out an entire army with either a Spartan squad or one Spartan and a platoon of marines with vehicles.

Until the AT-ATs start showing up...




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Scorpions? Pelicans? There's a vast multitude of UNSC ships and troops which could take them down. Not to mention using the snowspeeder method

[V]

Originally posted by Silverstrike:

1 The vast majority of stormtroopers were humans, not clones. You're thinking of the Clone Troopers.
2 their weapons were very capable of punching through covenant armor.
3 Spartans absolutely destroyed every Covenant soldier in their way, and could probably take down a small army with their strategic intellect, armor, and enough big guns. .

1 you are right, i forgot entirely about that.
2 if they were lucky, yeah. a MAC round would tear through a cov. ship if its shields were down, or it it was a super-MAC orbital platform. but missles and anything up to a nuke were almost ineffective. their largest ships could even easily withstand nuke blasts without it permanently damaging their ships, if they were shielded.
3 95% of the original spartans that began the engagement of the cov. are dead. there are no more, of that caliber at least. so while they are massively tide changing in battle, losing one would alter the rest of the war. and i think a jedi/sith could easily, in an ambush, take on a spartan.

again i dont know if either side would "win" but its a cool convo

[Yan Lolita]

By the way, the humans did have some very good tech in the war with the covenant. Their ships could deliever one hell of a beatdown, and their weapons were very capable of punching through covenant armor. Plus their Spartans absolutely destroyed every Covenant soldier in their way, and could probably take down a small army with their strategic intellect, armor, and enough big guns. They could probably take out an entire army with either a Spartan squad or one Spartan and a platoon of marines with vehicles.

Perhaps, but their ships needed to align themselves prerfectly, least they miss completely.
Also, you are overestimating the Spartans, yes they are amazing soilders but they aren't as
infailable as you and so many others think. Most of them died in the war, and some Covenant soilders ( mainly elites) were able to go toe to toe with them.

[Sral12]

Halo stomps easily. Forerunners wreck the empire and statlemate the celestials,but if precursors come in,the whole galaxy is getting erased.

[V]

Originally posted by Sral12:

Halo stomps easily. Forerunners wreck the empire and statlemate the celestials,but if precursors come in,the whole galaxy is getting erased.

but, y'know.
the force

[Pyrimidal]

Originally posted by Thrawn's Ghost -Killed by D$sney:

By the way, the humans did have some very good tech in the war with the covenant. Their ships could deliever one hell of a beatdown, and their weapons were very capable of punching through covenant armor. Plus their Spartans absolutely destroyed every Covenant soldier in their way, and could probably take down a small army with their strategic intellect, armor, and enough big guns. They could probably take out an entire army with either a Spartan squad or one Spartan and a platoon of marines with vehicles.

Perhaps, but their ships needed to align themselves prerfectly, least they miss completely.
Also, you are overestimating the Spartans, yes they are amazing soilders but they aren't as
infailable as you and so many others think. Most of them died in the war, and some Covenant soilders ( mainly elites) were able to go toe to toe with them.

First : where are you getting this perfect alignment? Last time I checked, ships didn't need to be perfectly aligned to score hits on one another. Second, the UNSC is using munition rounds which go directly through ray shields, and would hit Imperial ships head-on. Third, you're comparing Spartans to Stormtroopers. Stormtroopers are probably the most pathetic of all troops, only beating Grunts marginally. They have terrible moral, abysmal training, and iffy-armor. This is compared to the resilience, bravery, and intelligence of the UNSC.

You're also forgetting the Empire had a massive number of incompetent glory-seeking officers who'd rush in if they saw any chance at glory. The USNC could easily take advantage of this by baiting Imperial ships and then surrounding and promptly destroying them.