Monkey Island 2: Special Edition

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Ultrahorst 4 fev. 2013 às 11:11
Monkey Island for Linux
Does anybody know if Monkey Island will be published for Linux?
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tuniek 3 set. 2018 às 14:39 
Originalmente postado por Planetdune:
Originalmente postado por tuniek:
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." (Mark Twain)
... and in the times of so called BID data and othe ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is extremally sad ..

Moki, let's assume that You know the basics of the math. Additionally let's assume that total number of stem users increase from 2000000 to 3000000. In the sam time GNU/Linux users share has dropped from 1 % to 0.85%.

1 % from 2000000 is equal 20000
0.85% from 3000000 is equal 25500

(0.0085*3000000) - (0.01*2000000) = 5500 new GNU/Linux users.

You can manipulate numbers as you like.

So he states facts, and you try to rebuke him by pulling numbers out of your <bleep>? And then you go on to state the obvious, that "numbers can be manipulated".

Your counterpoint to his argument is that "well there may be 1 million new Windows users and relativly speaking, yes, Linux went down in market share.. BUT let's not talk about that, you do know that in the end we did have 5500 new linux users right?

I mean, I am sure there are better ways to defend Linux, but damn, this was not how to do it.

I just show that showing one fact (Linux users share drop) and hiding another one ( grow of the number of all steam accounts) may lead to lie.

He just gave one true fact. Hide another one. And from such a commbination he speculate another so called facts ... ( "People who don't like Windows 10 are finding ways to stay on 7, not switching to a completely new and foreign to them OS" -> how he knows it ... )

Let's assume Planetdune that You know the basics of classical logic :P
Let's assume that You can interpretate sucha a logical fact:

p = 0
q = 1

p -> q = 1

It is allways possible.


Última alteração por tuniek; 3 set. 2018 às 14:40
tuniek 3 set. 2018 às 14:47 
So he states facts, and you try to rebuke him by pulling numbers out of your <bleep>? And then you go on to state the obvious, that "numbers can be manipulated".

Your counterpoint to his argument is that "well there may be 1 million new Windows users and relativly speaking, yes, Linux went down in market share.. BUT let's not talk about that, you do know that in the end we did have 5500 new linux users right?

I mean, I am sure there are better ways to defend Linux, but damn, this was not how to do it.

another different thread :)
why You assumed that I defend Linux? :)

why all such a war rhetoric? :) :P

defend, fight, die ...

This discussion is under a subject "Does anybody know if Monkey Island will be published for Linux?"
Última alteração por tuniek; 3 set. 2018 às 14:47
Jeffer'son Airship 4 set. 2018 às 4:54 
No, you bring up a fair point I definitely overlooked. It wasn't intentional.

It's not some massive wave of folks switching but Linux has grown in numbers on Steam. The Win10 share has grown quite a bit over the last year too but a "free" upgrade will do that along with folks buying new machines (the shrinking numbers of older Windows versions are evidence of this.)

As far as folks staying on 7, it's anecdotal as much as you saying there's a ton of folks switching to Linux is. Neither is really reflected in the user surveys here or ones published by tech sites.

As far as this game goes its unfortunately not likely. Disney are the ones in charge of the series and they didn't have much to do with these remasters.

Quite frankly I'm surprised they re-released the 3rd and 4th in the series though so never say never.
Última alteração por Jeffer'son Airship; 4 set. 2018 às 4:57
Planetdune 4 set. 2018 às 5:19 
Originalmente postado por Moki:
No, you bring up a fair point I definitely overlooked. It wasn't intentional.

It's not some massive wave of folks switching but Linux has grown in numbers on Steam. The Win10 share has grown quite a bit over the last year too but a "free" upgrade will do that along with folks buying new machines (the shrinking numbers of older Windows versions are evidence of this.)

As far as folks staying on 7, it's anecdotal as much as you saying there's a ton of folks switching to Linux is. Neither is really reflected in the user surveys here or ones published by tech sites.

As far as this game goes its unfortunately not likely. Disney are the ones in charge of the series and they didn't have much to do with these remasters.

Quite frankly I'm surprised they re-released the 3rd and 4th in the series though so never say never.

They re-released the 4th? Here on Steam?? /goes to check Store
Edit: /comes back dissapointed
Última alteração por Planetdune; 4 set. 2018 às 5:20
Jeffer'son Airship 4 set. 2018 às 6:27 
Sorry. The 4th is on GOG only for now.
Planetdune 4 set. 2018 às 9:31 
Originalmente postado por Moki:
Sorry. The 4th is on GOG only for now.

There are plenty of games on goG I wish were on Steam... but I only want one digital library and my choice is Steam.
Rystar 4 set. 2018 às 14:10 
Originalmente postado por Planetdune:
Im not going to argue with a person named "LinuxDarudeIRC" who uses words as "Spydows" on this topic. I got a feeling your viewpoint is biased ;) I fully understand you think Linux is a tool of gods creation and that's good for you. The honest truth is that a whole lot of people are very happy with W10 and see little to no reason whatsoever to switch their OS.
Then why the hell are you even bothering to comment here? You're not going to win anyone over by being a douche.
Jeffer'son Airship 4 set. 2018 às 15:06 
Originalmente postado por Planetdune:
Originalmente postado por Moki:
Sorry. The 4th is on GOG only for now.

There are plenty of games on goG I wish were on Steam... but I only want one digital library and my choice is Steam.

A lot of the older games start on gog and get released on steam after a few months so patience may reward you.
Originalmente postado por Planetdune:
Originalmente postado por LinuxDarudeIRC:

W10 has caused people to switch to Linux more than ever, even more so than when Vista came out.

There are several fundamental reasons for it. One is: user is no longer in control at all. Not in the slightest (was one ever in Spydows?).

Linux indeed has matured and Valve, among so many others as said, see it as the de facto standard for everything in not so distant future.

Im not going to argue with a person named "LinuxDarudeIRC" who uses words as "Spydows" on this topic. I got a feeling your viewpoint is biased ;) I fully understand you think Linux is a tool of gods creation and that's good for you. The honest truth is that a whole lot of people are very happy with W10 and see little to no reason whatsoever to switch their OS.

People are "very happy with W10" ? Oh dear.

For what i've seen, very many have initially "accepted" the oppressive new behaviour of that also soon to be a monthly pay model OS, but at some point, enough has been enough. The main reason to switch to Linux has been the way W10 updates and even resets user settings without asking.

The Linux newcomers have been in awe of their new experience in freedom. Believe it or not. Especially the senior people have mentioned their thankfulness on how the updates just proceed in the background while they continue to browse web etc.

Ubuntu MATE has been the most efficient gateway to Linux for all kinds of people of all ages and needs.
Planetdune 5 set. 2018 às 17:33 
Originalmente postado por LinuxDarudeIRC:
Originalmente postado por Planetdune:

Im not going to argue with a person named "LinuxDarudeIRC" who uses words as "Spydows" on this topic. I got a feeling your viewpoint is biased ;) I fully understand you think Linux is a tool of gods creation and that's good for you. The honest truth is that a whole lot of people are very happy with W10 and see little to no reason whatsoever to switch their OS.

People are "very happy with W10" ? Oh dear.

For what i've seen, very many have initially "accepted" the oppressive new behaviour of that also soon to be a monthly pay model OS, but at some point, enough has been enough. The main reason to switch to Linux has been the way W10 updates and even resets user settings without asking.

I am pretty sure the places you look for things to be seen fit your agenda perfectly. Also, I never had any settings revert and I have been using W10 since I got it for free during release when you upgraded from W8. I'm sure you can find plenty of articles where there are issues, bugs, settings reverted and whatnot.... you can find whatever fits your agenda on the internet. Again, you like Linux, that is fine. I like Windows and I am sure you believe that is fine as well.
Última alteração por Planetdune; 5 set. 2018 às 17:33
Ouin-Ouin 24 set. 2018 às 1:27 
Sorry if it was already mentioned but, MI2 works perfectly under Linux when enabling Steam Play in the Steam client options. (built-in WINE DXVK + misc optimizations). Also, it's not that bad as it reports to the devs that the game is played with this system.
Originalmente postado por bidinou:
Sorry if it was already mentioned but, MI2 works perfectly under Linux when enabling Steam Play in the Steam client options. (built-in WINE DXVK + misc optimizations). Also, it's not that bad as it reports to the devs that the game is played with this system.

Nice thanks for the heads up. It's truly wonderful now that the purchase counts as a Linux sale via Proton / Steam Play even though a Spydows only game.

Added to wishlist.
malevolent 26 set. 2018 às 14:44 
Originalmente postado por bidinou:
Sorry if it was already mentioned but, MI2 works perfectly under Linux when enabling Steam Play in the Steam client options. (built-in WINE DXVK + misc optimizations). Also, it's not that bad as it reports to the devs that the game is played with this system.
Yes was mentionen just before some windows trolls appeared to make the party more fun
Ouin-Ouin 26 set. 2018 às 23:44 
Hehe, it seems any "Linux port" request thread can be turned into a Linux vs Windows flame bait :) Just ignoring those now :)
Arcanoxer 18 nov. 2018 às 10:31 
+1 for Linux
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