Did they remove some music tracks? again?

[Raein]

Rode around for a couple of hours and heard a surprisingly small amount of tacks I used to love. Or is it because they've added some new ones?

[Raein]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

lmao Rockstar can't renew. Rockstar CAN'T. Do you even hear yourself, my businessy friendo?

You do realize for a license to renew BOTH PARTIES have to AGREE for it to be remewed?

Yeah so any reason they won't? Like, they don't like money or something? I doubt it.
Listen man, GTA 5 OST and radio tracks are on Spotify which means those pieces of media are not in any kind of legal/copyright hell.
Either way, I would like to hear about this licensing problem in music industry specifically, but you clearly don't know ♥♥♥♥, otherwise would have already said something. Your theorization is ok but it just that - theorization. Muh business is a two way street lol ty

[Raein]

Diposting pertama kali oleh IrishTitanGod:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

You do realize for a license to renew BOTH PARTIES have to AGREE for it to be remewed?

Its like you're talking to a brick wall. He just can't grasp how it works.

Yeah I don't, because it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And "that's how it works" is not an answer to my question BTW, dunno why are you surprised I'm not buying your BS

[TheRedMafiaPanda]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

Diposting pertama kali oleh IrishTitanGod:

Its like you're talking to a brick wall. He just can't grasp how it works.

Yeah I don't, because it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And "that's how it works" is not an answer to my question BTW, dunno why are you surprised I'm not buying your BS

For a guy whose supposedly going into business clearly doesn't understand how licensing works

There's multiple types of licensing

There's one thst grants indefinite use

And there's one that have limited use

Not all songs were given the same license

This literally can be proven if you just look it up

[Жидобандеровец]

Which tracks do you think were removed?

[J4MESOX4D]

Music licences expiring is quite common in gaming and this is something that has affected the GTA series since the games were rolled out digitally. Most songs have unlimited commercial usage whereas others may be timed or need to be renewed per version. It's all down to the record label agreeing, but at the same time Rockstar have to bring renegotiation proceedings and sometimes the labels may not be interested or Rockstar themselves can't be bothered due to time or expense. Do not underestimate greed and cost cutting even when it comes to a multi billion dollar company and negotiating new terms may have a lot of red tape.

Royalty demands especially on a series as lucrative as GTA could be sky high though so we have to take that into consideration. A song that's been played to death for over a decade may not be missed as much as the money used to keep the song on Rockstar's playlist. Personally I think games like this should only choose royalty free music or ones where the artist/label can agree that their music can appear forever on the product.

[TheRedMafiaPanda]

Diposting pertama kali oleh J4MESOX4D:

Music licences expiring is quite common in gaming and this is something that has affected the GTA series since the games were rolled out digitally. Most songs have unlimited commercial usage whereas others may be timed or need to be renewed per version. It's all down to the record label agreeing, but at the same time Rockstar have to bring renegotiation proceedings and sometimes the labels may not be interested or Rockstar themselves can't be bothered due to time or expense. Do not underestimate greed and cost cutting even when it comes to a multi billion dollar company and negotiating new terms may have a lot of red tape.

Royalty demands especially on a series as lucrative as GTA could be sky high though so we have to take that into consideration. A song that's been played to death for over a decade may not be missed as much as the money used to keep the song on Rockstar's playlist. Personally I think games like this should only choose royalty free music or ones where the artist/label can agree that their music can appear forever on the product.

While most expire there is indefinite ones aswell

I don't think they should go royalty free as the real music adds to the franchise and even iconic to the franchise

[Kenuty]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

Crazy how licensing works and that they use real music and royalties licensing etc

I should care about that why exactly? Music is one of the important aspects of gta series dumbo

yes it's very important, but its better if it was created by artist hired by rockstar or made exclusively for the game instead of being paid for, because the labels can take em out anytime they want without warning after a contract ends, its a very fickle business and the labels hit hard very greedy.

[TheRedMafiaPanda]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kenuty:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

I should care about that why exactly? Music is one of the important aspects of gta series dumbo

yes it's very important, but its better if it was created by artist hired by rockstar or made exclusively for the game instead of being paid for, because the labels can take em out anytime they want without warning after a contract ends, its a very fickle business and the labels hit hard very greedy.

Like I said I disagree on this as it removes an element of what makes gta well gta

[Raein]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

Yeah I don't, because it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And "that's how it works" is not an answer to my question BTW, dunno why are you surprised I'm not buying your BS

For a guy whose supposedly going into business clearly doesn't understand how licensing works

There's multiple types of licensing

There's one thst grants indefinite use

And there's one that have limited use

Not all songs were given the same license

This literally can be proven if you just look it up

I still don't know why are you posting those obvious things here, but thanks I guess

[TheRedMafiaPanda]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

For a guy whose supposedly going into business clearly doesn't understand how licensing works

There's multiple types of licensing

There's one thst grants indefinite use

And there's one that have limited use

Not all songs were given the same license

This literally can be proven if you just look it up

I still don't know why are you posting those obvious things here, but thanks I guess

Says the guy who keeps saying "that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

So clearly I have to point out the obvious for you to understand

[Raein]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Жидобандеровец:

Which tracks do you think were removed?

I'm not even sure anything got removed lol, the thread was sidetracked by the "it is what it is" midwit.
I just played the game, got a feeling that I don't "recognize" radio stations and posted here to see if anyone felt the same. They've definitely added some new ones so it might be the "watering down" effect, like I didn't play enough to hear the ones I know

[Raein]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

I still don't know why are you posting those obvious things here, but thanks I guess

Says the guy who keeps saying "that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

So clearly I have to point out the obvious for you to understand

There's a guy here who at least tried to address the issue in question. You are just parroting some obvious stuff dancing around the question. You're not fooling anyone, you have nothing to say of value, might as well just leave.

[Raein]

Diposting pertama kali oleh J4MESOX4D:

Music licences expiring is quite common in gaming and this is something that has affected the GTA series since the games were rolled out digitally. Most songs have unlimited commercial usage whereas others may be timed or need to be renewed per version. It's all down to the record label agreeing, but at the same time Rockstar have to bring renegotiation proceedings and sometimes the labels may not be interested or Rockstar themselves can't be bothered due to time or expense. Do not underestimate greed and cost cutting even when it comes to a multi billion dollar company and negotiating new terms may have a lot of red tape.

Royalty demands especially on a series as lucrative as GTA could be sky high though so we have to take that into consideration. A song that's been played to death for over a decade may not be missed as much as the money used to keep the song on Rockstar's playlist. Personally I think games like this should only choose royalty free music or ones where the artist/label can agree that their music can appear forever on the product.

Yeah I now remember that some 80s band guy demanded 999999 mil for the usage of his track in the GTA 6 trailer (I think?). Guess it's really boils down to greed when in talks to the owners of a franchise like GTA.
I just don't understand the logic behind music label's side. Having your compositions in a cultural thing like GTA = prolonged exposure to the audience AND you're getting paid for it anyways. Crazy deal and still they're refusing it, tf

[TheRedMafiaPanda]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Raein:

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

Says the guy who keeps saying "that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥"

So clearly I have to point out the obvious for you to understand

There's a guy here who at least tried to address the issue in question. You are just parroting some obvious stuff dancing around the question. You're not fooling anyone, you have nothing to say of value, might as well just leave.

LOL what are you trying to pull?

"Dance around the question"

"Nothing of value to say"

Clearly you didn't read my first comment which literally answered your post

And you keep saying "that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ why should I care" like dude what?

You are indeed a "midwit"

[ybg Moli]

Diposting pertama kali oleh TheRedMafiaPanda:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Entropy:

idk, the physical copies of the older games still have the same tracks since release

Thats cause they cant really delete from a physical copy

sure, as long as you dont mind loosing the online aspect of the game. without updating it you cant acces the online mode