Super Saiyan Garbage

[Gubra Lagima]

I'm excited ofr this game, but the entire super saiyan system seems like ♥♥♥♥ to me. First of all, there's no SSJ3. That sucks. Also, they basically set it up so that you can only go Super Saiyan for a few seconds and then you're done. In the gameplay video I just watched, the guy described it as a "desperation move." WTF?

[Sifer2]

It's actually interesting the way it works. Since Ki in this game is only gained by attacking your opponent or powering up if you have equiped that special ability. So you can probably maintain Super Saiyan if you are aggresive, and can keep hitting your opponent. What I don't like about it though is that they say you can spam ultimate attacks like Kamehameha for free while Super Saiyan. If it's like that in the final game then I can predict a lot of low skill people just using it to spam especially in team fights.

All that said it doesn't represent the way it works in the show all that well. Only SSJ3 is really that badly draining in the show as to make them wear out mid battle like that. Usually they only power down in the show by taking a lot of damage or being knocked unconcious. But getting kocked out of SSJ by taking damage may have been even more annoying.

[Ðëprávèd•Mïšçréånt]

I think Xenoverse is going to be a very tactical game like custom characters in Raging Blast 1
Which is going to be good. It will be a bit annoying having to charge all the time to maintain Super Saiyan however I am happy with this as it will add more micro-management to the game which I personally need.

Games these days can be too simple but looking at this it seems to have the level of complexity my brain needs.

This is definately going to be purchased by myself :)

He has said Super Saiyan 3 is not a transformation, however we know it is in the game so this means SSj3 will be a selectable character.
The wouldn't have shown SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu if SSJ3 was not in the game at all.

[el Cheeto]

The time limit for the transformations is in order to keep balance in the gameplay. Cause in the original series Saiyans as OP compaired to everything else. And everything else leaves humans in the dust. But by doing this and thinking of an episode it makes sense. There was an episode where goku and gohan were training in the hyperbolic time chamber durring the cell saga. Once Gohan first became able to transform he wasn't able to fully control it or handle it and thus there was a time limit on his transformation. Even when saitans do master the control of being a super saiyan, they can't stay in that form forever, otherwise there wouldn't be no point in turning back. It does have a durration in how much energy is being used to sustain the transformation, and the more energy they use durring combat decreases the total amount of time they can stay transformed. The game has nothing to do with "True dragon Ball Fans", all games hav to be ballanced so everyone can fight at a fair level even while playing as the most useless "mr.Satan(hercule)".

So my advice is to not complain about something so pointless just because you prefer a broken game.

Oh wait....all the DBZ knowledge up above....no...i couldn't be....could i be a dragon ball fan
(0),(0) See you also don't reprisent all DBZ fans, and there ain't no such thing as a "true fan". Thats only an excuse to enhance ones own opinion in order to make it dominant above the rest.

Anyone want to fill in any supporting gaps that i may have left out then be my guest :)
Anyone want to complain with bias selfish imput then be my guest :P

[DjPufnStuf]

The easiest way to ruin a game is forced strategic dominance, and not to be a ♥♥♥♥, but incase you don't know means creating a strategy that better then any other no matter who plays it. So instead of a xenoverse world that has a variety of races and playstyles everyone will play exactly the same.. over and over.. ssj3 everywhere... man as exciting as that sound I would prefer diverse play then making couple of kids happy.

I would love ssj3 as much as anyone else, but I wouldn't get butthurt over not getting it.

[el Cheeto]

引用自 DjPuffnStuff：

The easiest way to ruin a game is forced strategic dominance, and not to be a ♥♥♥♥, but incase you don't know means creating a strategy that better then any other no matter who plays it. So instead of a xenoverse world that has a variety of races and playstyles everyone will play exactly the same.. over and over.. ssj3 everywhere... man as exciting as that sound I would prefer diverse play then making couple of kids happy.

I would love ssj3 as much as anyone else, but I wouldn't get butthurt over not getting it.

I actually want to try a Majjin, and frieza race so i don't think super saiyan applies for everyone xD

[GUY]

引用自 DjPuffnStuff：

The easiest way to ruin a game is forced strategic dominance, and not to be a ♥♥♥♥, but incase you don't know means creating a strategy that better then any other no matter who plays it. So instead of a xenoverse world that has a variety of races and playstyles everyone will play exactly the same.. over and over.. ssj3 everywhere... man as exciting as that sound I would prefer diverse play then making couple of kids happy.

I would love ssj3 as much as anyone else, but I wouldn't get butthurt over not getting it.

I don't care that it's not in the game but this logic is stupid, there will be an OP build no matter what they do if you can create custom characters.

[ELO HUNTER]

引用自 Deus_Drone：

引用自 linis：

I've been staying away from videos to keep from spoiling my game experience too much. I've only read the wiki and a few dozen other articles. I haven't been able to find anything about being Super Saiyan for only a few seconds. Do you have any other sources besides that video skarface97?

I know DIMPS had a fatigue meter in DBZ: Infinite World. That bugged me a little bit, but you could stay transformed for as long as you could avoid taking too much damage.

There is a dev video on Saiyan island that explains Super Saiyan.

You have to equip super Saiyan as an item (in place of one of your super moves)
It can only be super Saiyan, 1 2 or 3, you can have all three but it is at the expence of your super moves.
and it lasts for as long as your Ki does like the budokai games not like the Tenkaichi Budokai games.

Ref 1.
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/12/dragon-ball-xenoverse-bandai-namco-europe-interview/

In one of these videos it is mentioned, I believe it is the hour long one
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/12/dragon-ball-xenoverse-new-gameplay-over-75-minutes-with-bandai-namco/

Check your sources:

First of all your custom character can't go SS3

You only have two ultimate slots so even if we did have all 3 we couldn't equip them all

A super move is a move not an item

[Finn]

devs themselves have stated in twitch video that when u go super saiyan ur energy drains but when u use moves such as kamehameha it doesnt drain

[Anxiety.exe]

From what I gather, this game is cannon to the series. Post future trunks saga.

Now, Goku, and Gotenks became SSJ 3, and even so Goku explained that it is stressful enough to steal his life force away. SSJ 2 became the norm for Vegeta in the Buu saga, and Goten and Trunks didn't pull it off.

Your hero is pretty damn impressive if they can even go Super Saiyan. I mean, look at how freaked out every one was to see Future Trunks just turn super.

Also, if it lasts too long, then you have to nerf the power output of being super, because if SSJ 1-3 didn't cost that much, literally every one will be playing Saiyan.

This game is way more group based. Earthlings are balanced, so they are the wild card, Saiyans are the rogues as they have high damage output but not too much in the way of health, Namekians and Majin are damage sponges, and (I forget the name) frieza's race are really fast and great at distance (mages)

I do understand how you'd want to be SSJ the whole battle, but from what I see in gameplay, a few seconds can make ALL the difference.

[Ralen]

SSJ needs to be balanced. The Budokai trilogy was the best series of DBZ fighter games and they were also developed by Dimps. The more powerful your transformation, the larger the drain it should have on your ki. If you ever played any of the Budokai games, you know you'd more or less destroy anybody if you became SSJ2 or SSJ3. If you could maintain those transformations permanently, it would break the balance of the game. Tenkaichi failed in this respect having transformations separate.

Even in the show we know transformations were hard to maintain. Goku, Gohan, Trunks, and Vegeta had to train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to maintain SSJ. As far as SSJ2, SSJ3, and especially SSJ God, we know there is a limited time saiyans can maintain those forms. SSJ4 is a bit of an exception since it's a unique transformation, but again it needs to be balanced given its immense power. Can you even imagine how boring the game would be if Goku could just transform SSJ4 permanently and destroy everybody with a x10 kamehameha?

This is for the best. Not only is it meant to balance but you will appreciate transformations more being on a time limit. This will also allow for transformations to be much more powerful given their limited time usage.

[Zocky]

引用自 Imperator Clydus：

Can you even imagine how boring the game would be if Goku could just transform SSJ4 permanently and destroy everybody with a x10 kamehameha?

Actually it was revealed a while back that SSJ4 Goku and SSJ4 Vegeta will be seperate characters in the roster, so they are permanently SSJ4.

[el Cheeto]

引用自 skarface97：

引用自 lance the ssj：

Stop complaining about the bad things and be happy about what dimps has done for us.

If I'm paying money to play a game, I don't want it to suck for such silly reasons.

Im sorry but game developement aint about creating a broken game so you can spam with a single OP character that stands above the rest. The Devs don't make the game based on what you want to pay for, but what they believe would be a game that everyone could enjoy, ina controlled and ballanced way. If developers based there design On greedy opinions such as your, then the game would flop, and most of the people still playing would practically be playin the same character or type in this case (especially towards character design)

引用自 Thaddeus J. Spider：

From what I gather, this game is cannon to the series. Post future trunks saga.

Now, Goku, and Gotenks became SSJ 3, and even so Goku explained that it is stressful enough to steal his life force away. SSJ 2 became the norm for Vegeta in the Buu saga, and Goten and Trunks didn't pull it off.

Your hero is pretty damn impressive if they can even go Super Saiyan. I mean, look at how freaked out every one was to see Future Trunks just turn super.

Also, if it lasts too long, then you have to nerf the power output of being super, because if SSJ 1-3 didn't cost that much, literally every one will be playing Saiyan.

This game is way more group based. Earthlings are balanced, so they are the wild card, Saiyans are the rogues as they have high damage output but not too much in the way of health, Namekians and Majin are damage sponges, and (I forget the name) frieza's race are really fast and great at distance (mages)

I do understand how you'd want to be SSJ the whole battle, but from what I see in gameplay, a few seconds can make ALL the difference.

And I agree with your statement. The races have been devided to seperate classes where they control the leaderboards of there own strengths. Facing off against a saiyan would mean trying to not get into to much contact with there attacks, Majins and namekians don't have to worry as much but popping in and out may still be a better option. But as long as you can avoid there attacks and lay your own then its no prob since they aren't as resistant to them. Friezas race as long as you could master there speed and get great responce within the game dodging and attacking whether from close range or distance would be no problem. Then again no matter which race is chosen that gap in distance can be closed no problem which mainly leaves them with a speed advantage to dodge. But they can benefit from play enemies being distracted still as well. Namekians and Majin would most likely be a tank class due to being "damage sponges" as you have said, leaving them capable of heading head on into a battle. etc

[Natural Selection]

It would be nice if we had SSJ3 so we would have more to push to, but just the fact that you get access to a second form at all surprises me and I can't wait.

[Natural Selection]

The Transformation system in budokai felt Right. all the other games it just felt like a cosmetic.

[Ðëprávèd•Mïšçréånt]

引用自 Spookdora：

引用自 Deus_Drone：

There is a dev video on Saiyan island that explains Super Saiyan.

You have to equip super Saiyan as an item (in place of one of your super moves)
It can only be super Saiyan, 1 2 or 3, you can have all three but it is at the expence of your super moves.
and it lasts for as long as your Ki does like the budokai games not like the Tenkaichi Budokai games.

Ref 1.
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/12/dragon-ball-xenoverse-bandai-namco-europe-interview/

In one of these videos it is mentioned, I believe it is the hour long one
http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/12/dragon-ball-xenoverse-new-gameplay-over-75-minutes-with-bandai-namco/

Check your sources:

First of all your custom character can't go SS3

You only have two ultimate slots so even if we did have all 3 we couldn't equip them all

A super move is a move not an item

I think you need to check my sources :)
I have linked them in my post.
I am sorry if english is not your first language as I only have those links above.

If you had watched the above Developer Videos and listened to what they had said, you wouldn't have posted this at all.

I wont be replying to any future posts

have a great day.