Female Majin or Male Human? For Melee/Ki or Melee/Strike or Melee.

[Kaiser]

Hi

I started over ounce again, If you haven't seen my other two threads. The one about Pan Mentor Z Rank, and Voice 8 (Male Saiyan) Take a look at them.

I already beat the game twice already first on my Frieza Race who was striker focuse and my Human Female who was ki super focused.

I plan on beating the game 1 more time, now that I'm more use to It and know some builds ETC.

This time around I plan on going pure melee (Basica Attack) and maybe ki supers or strike, but mainly melee.

I have yet to beat the game on Majin, Saiyan, & Namekian. I not 100% sure if I do the last two races playthoughs wise, this time I plan on sticking to main and farm everything, getting all z ranks ETC and going Into pvp.

I don't care what people say about Majins I love them mainly the females, don't care much for male majin.

Only reason why I would go human again, this time male and other reason their raicals benfits.

20% damage when ki Is max and ki auto recharges Is nice, also they are second best In terms of melee/strike.

I would like a saiyan but everyone and their mother Is a saiyan. Plus all the threads I read Human males outclassed them.

Only reason I delete my saiyan was because of voice 8 and I wasn't that far In the game despite my level 48. Which I level from 4-48 doing 1-4 PQ & Pan's Mentor Quest, 90% of the levels come from Pan which Is Insanely good.

Hell It's good alt to doing 53, mainly If you started new game.

1-50 doesn't take that long doing Pan's mentor quest, and If you can manage to do the New PQ provided you have DLC. I willing to bet with Pan's mentor quest + getting Z rank and doing new PQ @ 50+ you can get to 80 In no time :D while still being on 1-4 PQ and not started Vegeta/Nappa saga yet :D.


I need your opinions, should I go female majin, stick with male humans for thei benfits or go what everyone else gose a saiyan.

[supersun1]

With Femajins you have to have a plan what you are going to do otherwise you'll just end up with a character that's essentially an inferior female human. Not to say that they can't be built, my main is a Femajin, but if you care about efficiency you have to build off at least one of Femajin's very few strengths over the F Earthling.

That said, for a melee build I would probably recommend the M Earthling for one VERY large reason, they can use the sword skills, and that teleporting slash is a VERY nice perk. If you are largely just going to PvE with the character you can do fine with mostly whatever you do, but if you are planning on PvP you'll need that teleport slash to stop runners.

[King of Evil]

I have both a Melee/Ki Human & Melee Saiyan built (Both Male) & I can say that they work pretty well for the most part.

Femajin's get higher average Ki damage overall but Human's get a 20% damage bonus when Ki is at Max, so you're basic attacks will hit harder w/ max ki & if you fire a Ki blast with full Ki you do much more damage. Femajin's have less stamina regen so you'd most likely need to have a Z-Soul that helps with that like "Might as Well..." or something else.

Also, like supersun1 said Humans/Saiyans get the sword skills & Shining Slash is probably one of the best moves for any melee/strike build since it is basically an instant transmission with an attack at the end of it. I think it's kind of dumb that other races can't use the skills, myself. If you play a melee/ki build Instant Transmission is better since you can use it & then ult something fierce.

Majin's do however get a lot of majin-race only moves, so there's that & a lot of them are Ki moves. I dunno how well they work though since I have yet to play a Majiin myself. If you do play a female majin I think that a Melee/Ki build w/ a good defensive Z-Soul would probably be the way to do it. You also have to strategize how you play & not use stamina wastefully since that passive 25% damage reduction is their saving grace.

[فاطمة]

Is it only male humans who have sword skills? or do male Saiyans get this bonus as well? I ask cause Trunks.

[Yescek]

Originally posted by Queen of the Jungle:

Is it only male humans who have sword skills? or do male Saiyans get this bonus as well? I ask cause Trunks.

Yeah, saiyans can use the sword abilities as well.

[Kaiser]

So Female Majins not worth making for pvp vs other races?

[Revolverhawk]

Originally posted by Golden Age Gamer (GAGMR):

Femajin's get higher average Ki damage overall but Human's get a 20% damage bonus when Ki is at Max, so you're basic attacks will hit harder w/ max ki & if you fire a Ki blast with full Ki you do much more damage. Femajin's have less stamina regen so you'd most likely need to have a Z-Soul that helps with that like "Might as Well..." or something else.

No. Human females have highest ki super damage in game, period. The fact that human females also get auto ki generation means they can attack more often. This means a human female will hit harder than a femaijan, attack more times with a ki super per minute than a femajin, and have more health, as well as faster stamina regen for using evasives and dodges more often.

The femajin might have more effective health overall than a female human with the +25% defense buff they get at max stamina, but being unable to use evasive moves and vanish dodge in order to maintain it, combined with low stamina regeneration, means that on average Femajins really don't have more durability than a female human. Being able to evade, dodge, and rapidly get back enough stamina to do it again tends to outweigh the advantage the +25% gives.

In practice, this means that human females do more damage, attack more often, and are actually more durable due to faster stamina regen. There is a reason why Majin Females are so unpopular. However, there is one huge advantage to Femajin: They have naturally occuring Super Armor.

Majin, both male and female, get one tick of super armor every 30 seconds or so. It is on a cooldown. This means your character does not flinch when hit, for one attack every 30 seconds. The number of attacks your super armor blocks increases if you have auto guard. Z-souls that give auto guard like "I'm an android" or "I'm neither Kami Nor Piccolo now" have excellent synergy with Femajin because of this, giving you super armor like Broly's, that pops up regularly throughout a fight, instead of going away after you have less than 80% health like the Kakarot z-soul does. This allows you to simply hit the enemy through their moves and finish performing super moves even when you get hit on a regular basis, and it has awesome potential for linking together infinite combos despite evasives like explosive wave.

Majin Super Armor is an important advantage, but to properly use you need very particular z-souls, limiting your choices in that regard, and if you are not going to take advantage of the Majin super armor your femajin IS inferior to a female human, because it is really your only true advantage over a human female. Human Females are more popular for a reason. If you are going with a Femajin, I reccomend the "I'm an android" z-soul and Super Drain as one of your super moves just for the stamina regen. It's easy to combo into super drain(it has a very short setup time and it is unblockable), and this makes it useful despite the fact it will do low damage for your character.

Oh, and if you want fast stamina regen to keep a female majins defense boost up as much as possible, you might want to try the somewhat ironic combo, "Aren't I Nice!?" Ginyu z-soul and Mach Dash evasive. It gives faster stamina regen than the "Might as Well" z-soul, AND faster ki regen(so you can attack more often.) These are two huge buffs rather than just one. Just use Mach Dash at the start of the fight to get the speed buff, this will activate the z-soul, then use the evasive regularly throughout the fight to keep the buff up. Your stamina will regen faster, and your ki will also regen very, very fast.

[Kaiser]

I thought this game was skill based or was that a lie? am I truely better of going non-majin race?

My top two choices ATM are

Female Majin

Human Male

& Maybe Saiyan (Again)

[Revolverhawk]

Originally posted by Soullester:

I thought this game was skill based or was that a lie? am I truely better of going non-majin race?

My top two choices ATM are

Female Majin

Human Male

& Maybe Saiyan (Again)

Human males are best for melee due to having both high melee and high strike super, as well as good health and stamina regen.

For ki blast super users, Female Majin have few advantages over a Female Human, Super armor being the most notable. You can win as a Female Majin, they are viable, but there are less overall z-soul options and build choices taking advantage of their strengths than there are for human females, which is why human females are more popular. Human females have more advantages, but this is not the same as saying they are completely superior. The female majin super armor can be very powerful when used properly.

Respective Advantages:

Human Female- More Ki blast Super damage, can use ki blast supers more often, higher base attack damage, higher health, faster stamina regen. The overall combination of more health and more evasive use gives similar durability to a female majin

Majin Female- Super armor. Z-souls that give auto guard give you more super armor. This is the primary advantage to Majin Female, although Majin do get some useful Majin exclusive moves, and this can occasionally be important.

Most people pick Human Female for a non saiyan ki blaster, but super armor that comes back regularly throughout a match can be VERY powerful if you know how to use it.

[Kaiser]

How are female saiyan for melee/ki or meelee/strike?

[supersun1]

Yeah, Femajin is viablish, but you have to build them towards a goal as opposed to just throwing together whatever you feel like and it being effective.

F Earthlings have superior stats to Femajins in EVERY category except for Step and Dragon Dash. Every other category, Health, Basic Attack, Ki Super, Strike Super, and Air Movement F Earthling is superior in, and due to them being Earthlings and NOT Majins they also have superior Ki and stamina regeneration as well. Not to mention that F Earthlings get the sword strike skills as well.

Femajins are superior to F Earthlings in Damage reduction at full stamina, Super Armor, Step Dash and Dragon Dash, Majin Specific Moves, and debatably their combo strings.

Yeah,...one list is a LOT longer than the other, but that doesn't mean Femajin is worthless, but that they just need to effectively capitalize on one of their advantages otherwise you are just playing an inferior F Earthling.

Like mentioned before their stamina armor is one way to effectively play a Femajin. Stacking damage reduction is another since the higher it is stacked the higher exponentially your effective HP grows. You might also be able to build something that capitalizes on the fact that they have the best step dash in the game.

[Kaiser]

What Is step dash and dragon dash and how do I do this on ps4?

[Kaiser]

Which height should I consider for female majin and weight.

Is speed or hp more better for female majin, also as for weight since I most likly be pure melee should I 3rd or middel option?

[supersun1]

Dragon Dash is when you hold L2? and move. You zoom around the map in an aura, but it consumes stamina.

Step Dash is when you hold L2? but instead of holding the move stick down you let go before you start a Dragon Dash and you'll Step Dash.

Height is largely preference.
For most races taller is generally better since the speed difference isn't going to do a lot while increasing your HP by a percentage will.
Femajins though already have an atrocious base HP where you'll barely gain or lose 100 HP while having a faster step dash for the femajin actually can make some combo step cancels easier to pull off.

It's just a question of whether you want to help balance femajin's atrocious HP by making it not as bad by going taller, or if the longer step dash is better and you go smaller.

Femajin is probably one of the few race/gender combos where even if you just pick which height you like the look of best you'll probably be fine unlike some other ones where if you aren't the tallest you are pretty much gimping yourself.

For weight, if you are going melee broader is better, but just realize that femajins are definitely better at ki supers then strike supers (though they'll still hit harder than the male majins at whatever they do, but the male majin's combo string is 100x better than the femajins).

That's sort of the other problem with the femajin. Whatever few builds are left that the F Earthling doesn't completely overshadow the femajin with the Male majin is just a better choice for most of those builds. This is the case for most melee builds as well. M Earthling, M Majin, Namekian, or Freizian are usually better.

I mean M Majins and Femajins hit for around the same with basic combos and strike skills but the M Majin has a better combo string and about 30% more HP (and is...faster at normal movement :/).

[Revolverhawk]

Originally posted by supersun1:

Dragon Dash is when you hold L2? and move. You zoom around the map in an aura, but it consumes stamina.

Step Dash is when you hold L2? but instead of holding the move stick down you let go before you start a Dragon Dash and you'll Step Dash.

Height is largely preference.
For most races taller is generally better since the speed difference isn't going to do a lot while increasing your HP by a percentage will.
Femajins though already have an atrocious base HP where you'll barely gain or lose 100 HP while having a faster step dash for the femajin actually can make some combo step cancels easier to pull off.

It's just a question of whether you want to help balance femajin's atrocious HP by making it not as bad by going taller, or if the longer step dash is better and you go smaller.

Femajin is probably one of the few race/gender combos where even if you just pick which height you like the look of best you'll probably be fine unlike some other ones where if you aren't the tallest you are pretty much gimping yourself.

For weight, if you are going melee broader is better, but just realize that femajins are definitely better at ki supers then strike supers (though they'll still hit harder than the male majins at whatever they do, but the male majin's combo string is 100x better than the femajins).

Female Majin have an infinite hit combo string that is similar to a male humans actually. The timing is a bit more wonky and slow, but it is very similar. The Femajins main problem is more the lack of damage in melee, but male majin aren't really better in that regard. The combo string is 5 light attack, 3 heavy attack, guard cancel (after you teleport, press guard to cancel the attack), then another 5 light attacks, 3 heavy attacks, guard cancel again.

This is an infinite hit combo that will cause you to constantly rise upwards to the top of the level. At the top of the level, you can skip the third heavy attack and the guard cancel, endlessly comboing 5 light attacks followed by 2 heavy attacks. Male humans do more damage with this combo and complete the combo slightly quicker, but without super armor a single evasive like Explosive Wave will end the combo. A Femajin on the other hand can simply continue the combo despite the evasive because of super armor, making it harder to escape them. However, with lower stamina regen Femajin are bad at vanish dodge/counter vanish dodge, so it's pretty much necessary to use the instant transmission super to dodge behind the opponent when they use vanish dodge, which requires fast reflexes. Using Super Drain to keep your stamina up also helps.

[supersun1]

Originally posted by Revolverhawk:

Originally posted by supersun1:

Dragon Dash is when you hold L2? and move. You zoom around the map in an aura, but it consumes stamina.

Step Dash is when you hold L2? but instead of holding the move stick down you let go before you start a Dragon Dash and you'll Step Dash.

Height is largely preference.
For most races taller is generally better since the speed difference isn't going to do a lot while increasing your HP by a percentage will.
Femajins though already have an atrocious base HP where you'll barely gain or lose 100 HP while having a faster step dash for the femajin actually can make some combo step cancels easier to pull off.

It's just a question of whether you want to help balance femajin's atrocious HP by making it not as bad by going taller, or if the longer step dash is better and you go smaller.

Femajin is probably one of the few race/gender combos where even if you just pick which height you like the look of best you'll probably be fine unlike some other ones where if you aren't the tallest you are pretty much gimping yourself.

For weight, if you are going melee broader is better, but just realize that femajins are definitely better at ki supers then strike supers (though they'll still hit harder than the male majins at whatever they do, but the male majin's combo string is 100x better than the femajins).

Female Majin have an infinite hit combo string that is similar to a male humans actually. The timing is a bit more wonky and slow, but it is very similar. The Femajins main problem is more the lack of damage in melee, but male majin aren't really better in that regard. The combo string is 5 light attack, 3 heavy attack, guard cancel (after you teleport, press guard to cancel the attack), then another 5 light attacks, 3 heavy attacks, guard cancel again.

This is an infinite hit combo that will cause you to constantly rise upwards to the top of the level. At the top of the level, you can skip the third heavy attack and the guard cancel, endlessly comboing 5 light attacks followed by 2 heavy attacks. Male humans do more damage with this combo and complete the combo slightly quicker, but without super armor a single evasive like Explosive Wave will end the combo. A Femajin on the other hand can simply continue the combo despite the evasive because of super armor, making it harder to escape them. However, with lower stamina regen Femajin are bad at vanish dodge/counter vanish dodge, so it's pretty much necessary to use the instant transmission super to dodge behind the opponent when they use vanish dodge, which requires fast reflexes. Using Super Drain to keep your stamina up also helps.

5 light, 2 heavy into a step cancel is 100x times easier than 5 light, 3 heavy into guard cancel

But yeah, EVERY race has an infinite combo. Every race can 1 heavy, 2 light, light, light guard cancel, repeat.
Unlike the femajin's combo though the male majin's combo reaches a LOT farther. This is really why Male Majins and Namekians are probably the best melee classes, simply because while they don't do as much damage their hits reach a LOT farther initiating that infinite easier.
As for male humans...well they hit a lot harder and also have the +20% damage bonus at max ki.