Super sayan vs kaioken x20

[Althran]

I know in game Sayans are the only one who can use super sayan. Does this mean there is a "transformation" anyone can use? And how does it compare to kaioken x20

[Althran]

I dont know if there even is a difference.

[Androzin]

Im pretty sure anyone can use kaioken since its all the race pictures show up when you hover over it in the skill shop

[Dong Quixote]

There's a big difference.

Super Saiyan 2/Super Vegeta 2 : ~5% boost in damage (SSJ = physical, SV = ki), drains ki, unlimited use of ki abilities while transformed.

Kaioken x20 = Large boost in damage (~35%), drains stam, unlimited use of stamina abilities while transformed (evasive abilities, teleports, etc.)

[Pigeon Daddy]

Originally posted by Boxhead:

Im pretty sure anyone can use kaioken since its all the race pictures show up when you hover over it in the skill shop

as a frieza racer, i can confirm that kaioken works with everyone. but it's largely useless.

[Dong Quixote]

Kaioken is considered the "all race" transformation btw

[Dumb n Gae]

Originally posted by Althran:

I know in game Sayans are the only one who can use super sayan. Does this mean there is a "transformation" anyone can use? And how does it compare to kaioken x20

Kaioken is for all races, but uses up stamina rather than ki, though i believe there might be a soul that can change that.

[Androzin]

I wish Nameks had Super Namek
I wish Frieza-Clan had All frieza transformations
I wish Majinn had kid buu and super buu tranformations (Somewhat similiar)
Humans can just stick with kaioken :D

[Pigeon Daddy]

Originally posted by Boxhead:

I wish Nameks had Super Namek
I wish Frieza-Clan had All frieza transformations
I wish Majinn had kid buu and super buu tranformations (Somewhat similiar)
Humans can just stick with kaioken :D

i was actually explaining to a friend earlier, that it makes all kinds of sense that majin specifically can't transform. they are clones of majin buu, but they aren't as powerful. and kid buu was literally pure evil. he was evil incarnate. you can't do that in this game, unfortunately. ;p

[Shark-Senpai]

What do you mean I can't be pure evil? I've helped Vegeta kill the good guys, I've repeatedly shot Gohan with the Special Beam Cannon smiling with glee... You can certainly do pure evil, but pure evil also knows that destroying the universe because messing with time kind of kills the fun in being evil..

[Pigeon Daddy]

Originally posted by PM7-4Shark-Senpai:

What do you mean I can't be pure evil? I've helped Vegeta kill the good guys, I've repeatedly shot Gohan with the Special Beam Cannon smiling with glee... You can certainly do pure evil, but pure evil also knows that destroying the universe because messing with time kind of kills the fun in being evil..

as far as the story goes, you can't be evil lol. unfortunately, a lot of games lock us into being the good guy ;p no matter how much we want to just lay waste to everything. this is one such game. ;p
oh, and kid buu operated oon instinctive evil. he didn't care how it happened, if it made people suffer, he was okay with it.

[Shark-Senpai]

You don't have to be the 'good guy' to do what must be done, and enact heroic actions. Again, upon the basis that smart evil knows that you can't be evil if there's nothing to be evil over.

I can aways tell myself that helping the timelines not be destroyed is a small price to pay.. for being able to repeatedly murder Krillin like its going out of style.

[Tyroki]

Are there any Namekians out there that are going a max Stamina build? How does Kaioken x20 feel to you? I'm guessing Namekian's can make the best use of x20.

[Althran]

I just thing that The super sayan transformations are generally better than Kaioken x20. I wish evey race had its own special moves or transformations.

[Pickle]

Kaioken x1 is best kaioken ! ^^

[Renkuya]

Originally posted by Kalissian:

There's a big difference.

Super Saiyan 2/Super Vegeta 2 : ~5% boost in damage (SSJ = physical, SV = ki), drains ki, unlimited use of ki abilities while transformed.

Kaioken x20 = Large boost in damage (~35%), drains stam, unlimited use of stamina abilities while transformed (evasive abilities, teleports, etc.)

is that legit? ~35% boost to damage is a LOT more than SSJ gets..