How do you get to the Tractor Bay?

[Touch Me I'm Sick]

I think it's all I've got left in the game, but I can't figure it out. I figured you get there by teleporter, but disabling one of them doesn't seem to do much. A spacewalk seems like a terrible idea, and I can't find anywhere to get outside anyway. And I've flown around everywhere nearby on the surface map.

I'm sure I'm missing something painfully obvious.

[rujuro]

The way teleport works is a teleporter connects with the nearest other teleporter, so you can pick up and move the first teleporter closer to the tractor bay, or you can disable one of the teleports you have access to and the remaining one will connect tithe bay let me know if that doesn't work

[Touch Me I'm Sick]

Yeah that's what I tried, pretty much.

I stripped the pads as I went through, and used them/their ability for the rest of the game, then came back afterwards to try to 100%. I ended up using the pads as my flying machines (seems like most people used the turtles) for most of the game, so they've seen a fair amount of action.

Now with one TP disabled (one "teleport other" in my inventory) and the other TP set to it's default state, as far as I know, and even placed in the teleporter bay area (which I'm assuming shouldn't make any difference) they still won't connect to the one in the Tractor Bay.

Should this be possible after completing the game? The only thing I've done to the Tractor Bay is zoom in on the sign to see the words "Tractor Bay", I don't think I've disturbed anything in there otherwise.

So basically, if I disable one of the teleporters in any way, the remaining one will not connect to anything else. Seems like I've broken sometthing?

Fantastic game BTW - most creative experience since Antichamber. You guys have done a fantastic job, can't wait for the e5 demo.

[Touch Me I'm Sick]

PS - I have stared at the tractor bay for close to an hour trying to figure this out. Have you implemented the uncertainty principle so the teleport location has decohered to the point of being unusable?

That would be very clever, but I would hope for an achievement involving a definitely dead cat.

[rujuro]

hmm, this is very odd scotty. We may want to take a look at your save file, there is no reason you should not be able to access the bay, unless you already got there and removed the teleport ability, in which case you should be able to access the crack there. Do you only have 2 teleport other abilities and 2 teleport pads available to you on the map? Thanks, this is pretty baffling.

[G:ÀÆËÐß×Øãçêîðñ÷]

Whoah, that sounds like a bug!
If that situation is still the case, would you be willing to share your save file?
on PC, it is located at
C:\Users\<user>\AppData\LocalLow\Question\The Magic Circle\<steamnumber>

[Touch Me I'm Sick]

Odd indeed, sounds like it should be pretty easy to get there.

See if I've done anything silly:

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=771DBA6A7184559C!4589&authkey=!AHAAIuZDEBG5u_w&ithint=folder%2czip

Thanks for being so active in the Steam forums, it's a nice change!

[G:ÀÆËÐß×Øãçêîðñ÷]

Hmmm... it says your zip is invalid.
is scottywat.zip the file?
I see nothing else there

[mreed2]

I suspect that I know what the problem is:

If (on a clean start) you use the first teleporter, then ***immediately*** realize that "Hey, I bet if I summon the first teleporter to me, strip off the "Teleport Other" function, then this teleporter will go somewhere else" you never acually discover the crack that is being referred to, and you can't get back to the area.

Yes, this happened to me -- I can obviously get to the teleport bay, and I can get to the end point of the original teleport chain, but I can't get to whatever sits in the middle. Thankfully, there doesn't seem to be anything particuarlly vital in that middle area, as I had no difficutly completing the game.

I'm not sure if this would be considered a bug or a case of user error, frankly. :)

[rujuro]

ah, if this is the case then I may know the problem, I will investigate and we will address it for the next update if I find it. Thanks for the pointer. Yeah, the abilitiy in there is tractor beam, which is incredibly useful for certain solultions, but all have alternatives.

[G:ÀÆËÐß×Øãçêîðñ÷]

Originally posted by mreed2:

I suspect that I know what the problem is:

If (on a clean start) you use the first teleporter, then ***immediately*** realize that "Hey, I bet if I summon the first teleporter to me, strip off the "Teleport Other" function, then this teleporter will go somewhere else" you never acually discover the crack that is being referred to, and you can't get back to the area.

Yes, this happened to me -- I can obviously get to the teleport bay, and I can get to the end point of the original teleport chain, but I can't get to whatever sits in the middle. Thankfully, there doesn't seem to be anything particuarlly vital in that middle area, as I had no difficutly completing the game.

I'm not sure if this would be considered a bug or a case of user error, frankly. :)

OOOOHHHHHhhhhh!!!!!
Yeah, we definitely do not want the player to get to a game state that can't be recovered from.

[rujuro]

well, I could see a way this could potentially happen, but you would have had to have reached the tractor bay teleporter at least once in order to strip the teleport out of it without triggering the crack. Which I think would be possible, but if so, you should be able to access 3 teleporters on the map.

In any case, looking at your save file would still be really useful if we can get it. Thanks

[Jabokoe]

You can actually fly into the mountain where the 'space box' is with the tractor bay. There is an accidental seam in the rocks near a lava stream.
Also it is possible to glitch through the wall into the tractor bay (only on its far side, side farthes from teleporter and the other bay) But flying in there is hard because if you fly a bit too low you hit the bottom kill collider.

[Touch Me I'm Sick]

Haha whoops, it was almost 4am and I was pretty drunk sorry.

It's a .7z not a .zip, I've renamed it now.

[Touch Me I'm Sick]

In any case, I'm pretty certain I've not been inside the Tractor Bay.

Even if I had been in there to ninja the 'teleport other' ability and forgotten, that would have required an edit so I should be able to summon the third pad, right?

[rujuro]

exactly, that is why this is so baffling.