What are the difference between lancer/warrior and priest/mystic?

[Rokoshy]

They're different classes that have the same job. So, what's the difference between them?
Does race matter? Is a Castanic healer, a better healer than a Human?
Can another class tank/heal/support?

[Zer0]

The difference is their playstyle:

Lancer is the pure "block tank" that can take hits. Warrior is a DPSer that can "dodge" tank, doesn't block.

Priest is the pure healing class.

Mystic is the support "buffing" class and has only one direct heal skill if I remember and drops motes for hp and mp regen for others to pick up, plus they have pets.

Berserker will be getting a patch in the future that will make them able to block tank as well.

Doesn't matter which class, pick whatever you like.

[Xiwang]

race doesn't matter, racials are worthless, maybe elin, popori or castanic because their small hit box are good for pvp, but in pve is totally meaningless, in the end are all the same, choose whatever you want, it will be ok.

lancer absorption tank, warrior evasion tank, the warrior can be dps too, the lancer only can be tank.

the priest is the most powerful healer, but the mystic can do more than heal, if you need kill 1 boss fast use mystic, if you need carry your teammates priest.

[Rokoshy]

Originally posted by Zer0:

Doesn't matter which class, pick whatever you like.

Thanks, I will.
Just wanted to make sure what does each class do before making my decision.
I couldn't care less about "this is the best tank". I play what I like the most.

Originally posted by Zeiferl:

race doesn't matter, racials are worthless, maybe elin, popori or castanic because their small hit box are good for pvp, but in pve is totally meaningless, in the end are all the same, choose whatever you want, it will be ok.

lancer absorption tank, warrior evasion tank, the warrior can be dps too, the lancer only can be tank.

the priest is the most powerful healer, but the mystic can do more than heal, if you need kill 1 boss fast use mystic, if you need carry your teammates priest.

Nice, thanks man.

[Gralzeim]

Warriors do actually get a block (Cross Parry), but it has a cooldown, while the Lancer's block does not. But the Warrior has better avoidance capability, a Warrior can more easily avoid an unblockable boss attack than a Lancer. It's a tradeoff.

[Wolf Echo]

Originally posted by HeimdallW32:

Warriors do actually get a block (Cross Parry), but it has a cooldown, while the Lancer's block does not. But the Warrior has better avoidance capability, a Warrior can more easily avoid an unblockable boss attack than a Lancer. It's a tradeoff.

Apparently the CD on Cross Parry is going away (according to what's happening on KTERA). They're trying to make tanking on a Warrior more appealing so that there's less a demand for tanks in general.

And according to several people, a Warrior who tanks and dodges is an idiot, which makes no sense since the class is designed to avoid instead of take hits.

[Gralzeim]

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

Originally posted by HeimdallW32:

Warriors do actually get a block (Cross Parry), but it has a cooldown, while the Lancer's block does not. But the Warrior has better avoidance capability, a Warrior can more easily avoid an unblockable boss attack than a Lancer. It's a tradeoff.

Apparently the CD on Cross Parry is going away (according to what's happening on KTERA). They're trying to make tanking on a Warrior more appealing so that there's less a demand for tanks in general.

And according to several people, a Warrior who tanks and dodges is an idiot, which makes no sense since the class is designed to avoid instead of take hits.

Would depend on how you dodge. If you roll through the boss, turning them to face the party, then yes, that's bad. Also you'd want to save your i-frames (abilities that make you temporarily invulnerable, such as the dodge roll) for the really big attacks, not everything.

So, yeah, if you're just rolling all over the place trying to dodge every single attack, then that makes things harder for the party because the boss might have a frontal attack that hits a DPS then, also you won't be generating as much aggro if you're doing that. Defensive stance reduces the damage a Warrior takes, so it's okay if you take some normal boss attacks. You'd save your block and i-frames for the big attacks. Like how a Lancer would save their block for big attacks (both Lancer and Warrior blocks consume Resolve, a resource that regenerates over time when not blocking).

The warrior's dodges would be especially handy if the boss uses an unblockable attack. So if a boss has one, you would want to make sure it's off cooldown for when that occurs. Some high level bosses have "dodge or die" types of attacks from what I understand.

[Rokoshy]

Originally posted by HeimdallW32:

Warriors do actually get a block (Cross Parry), but it has a cooldown, while the Lancer's block does not. But the Warrior has better avoidance capability, a Warrior can more easily avoid an unblockable boss attack than a Lancer. It's a tradeoff.

What about the "Berseker will be able to block" thing?

[Zer0]

Originally posted by Rokoshy:

Originally posted by HeimdallW32:

Warriors do actually get a block (Cross Parry), but it has a cooldown, while the Lancer's block does not. But the Warrior has better avoidance capability, a Warrior can more easily avoid an unblockable boss attack than a Lancer. It's a tradeoff.

What about the "Berseker will be able to block" thing?

They already can block but a future patch will give them threat generating skills as well as remove the global cooldown for block.

[Wolf Echo]

Originally posted by Zer0:

Originally posted by Rokoshy:

What about the "Berseker will be able to block" thing?

They already can block but a future patch will give them threat generating skills as well as remove the global cooldown for block.

The only downside will be that Zerks still won't be able to queue as Defense (tank), that's why the Warrior is getting more in the way of tank-like buffs, since it's the only other class that can queue as a tank.

[Rokoshy]

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

The only downside will be that Zerks still won't be able to queue as Defense (tank)

Then why buff at all? O.o?
"I can tank, but the game won't let me tank, even tho they want me to tank."

[Zer0]

Originally posted by Rokoshy:

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

The only downside will be that Zerks still won't be able to queue as Defense (tank)

Then why buff at all? O.o?
"I can tank, but the game won't let me tank, even tho they want me to tank."

You can't QUEUE as a tank but nothing stopping you from making your own parties.

[Wolf Echo]

Originally posted by Rokoshy:

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

The only downside will be that Zerks still won't be able to queue as Defense (tank)

Then why buff at all? O.o?
"I can tank, but the game won't let me tank, even tho they want me to tank."

Because Zerks were never designed as tanks, people just started using them like tanks because they could block like Lancers. Zerk skills are all about charged hits, so they attack slow, meaning a half-decent Warrior can out DPS them over time.

[Rokoshy]

Originally posted by Zer0:

You can't QUEUE as a tank but nothing stopping you from making your own parties.

That being said, nothing can stop me from tanking with a Gunner.
The problem is to find a party willing to let you tank.

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

Zerk skills are all about charged hits, so they attack slow, meaning a half-decent Warrior can out DPS them over time.

Why make a Zerk at all then? Warriors can tank better, deal more damage and queue as a tank.

[Wolf Echo]

Originally posted by Rokoshy:

Originally posted by Zer0:

You can't QUEUE as a tank but nothing stopping you from making your own parties.

That being said, nothing can stop me from tanking with a Gunner.
The problem is to find a party willing to let you tank.

The only part about a Gunner that can be compared to a tank is the fact that it uses Metal armor. Other than that, no, a Gunner trying to take is just insane. You don't have the aggro draw OR the DPS potential of the Zerk or Warrior (early game, it might appear that way, but it levels out as you go higher).

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

Zerk skills are all about charged hits, so they attack slow, meaning a half-decent Warrior can out DPS them over time.

Why make a Zerk at all then? Warriors can tank better, deal more damage and queue as a tank.

Because like Broshan said, a good Zerk can decimate anything in their path. And even if there's a Lancer or Warrior tanking in the party, the Zerk being able to tank, even partly, helps as if either of the tank classes loses aggro the Zerk can jump in and block, or just slam a heavy hit on the boss to draw in aggro. Just because Zerks can't queue as a tank doesn't mean they're useless. I said a Warrior could out DPS them *over time*, but the Zerk also has a lot of skills that can stagger and stun.

[Rokoshy]

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

The only part about a Gunner that can be compared to a tank is the fact that it uses Metal armor. Other than that, no, a Gunner trying to take is just insane. You don't have the aggro draw OR the DPS potential of the Zerk or Warrior (early game, it might appear that way, but it levels out as you go higher).

I see.

Originally posted by Rogue Dagger:

Because like Broshan said, a good Zerk can decimate anything in their path. And even if there's a Lancer or Warrior tanking in the party, the Zerk being able to tank, even partly, helps as if either of the tank classes loses aggro the Zerk can jump in and block, or just slam a heavy hit on the boss to draw in aggro. Just because Zerks can't queue as a tank doesn't mean they're useless. I said a Warrior could out DPS them *over time*, but the Zerk also has a lot of skills that can stagger and stun.

Hum, thanks.
I started the game 2 weeks ago, so I'm not that knowledgeable about it yet.
Thanks.