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I'm kind of confused about the propaganda center
Aside from the propaganda bulletin and agitators, how exactly does the propaganda center work? Do they just call people by phone or talk to them in person (Assuming they leave the building while they're working or people go there while they are working).

I know it's not a big deal, but i'm wondering since people go to the temple but only the engineers go to the propaganda center and if you don't give them wood or sign the agitator law, they seemingly don't do anything.

Thanks in advance:COH3UK::SE4Fortitude::SE5Reaper::WH3_clasp::Spirit:
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The Queen Salis Jul 30, 2024 @ 4:51am 
oh they will drive a poet to su---de just for being too gloomy for morale, all behind your back. so it seems they mostly focus on limiting speech and information

What they do is at every point make sure your fragile population only hears the most convenient truth to keep them motivated and working away.
I imagine they design and put up posters, Maybe they have those letter-block boards where you can type messages by rearranging letters so it's reusable.
asarokk Jul 30, 2024 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by The Queen Salis:
oh they will drive a poet to su---de just for being too gloomy for morale, all behind your back. so it seems they mostly focus on limiting speech and information

What they do is at every point make sure your fragile population only hears the most convenient truth to keep them motivated and working away.
I imagine they design and put up posters, Maybe they have those letter-block boards where you can type messages by rearranging letters so it's reusable.

It's stated they deliver a news bulletin straight to every household to ensure that everyone will get the message that they are protecting the city by maintaining order. If it's just a bulletin board, people could just walk past it without reading what's on it.
Centurion Zen Jul 30, 2024 @ 9:21am 
Yeah, but how in terms of methods? Are they finding their own wood to print paper newspapers & giving them a little extra let's them make more flyers to backup the newspapers & posters? Or is that just a gameplay mechanic and that's what's happening at all times?
asarokk Jul 30, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Centurion Zen:
Yeah, but how in terms of methods? Are they finding their own wood to print paper newspapers & giving them a little extra let's them make more flyers to backup the newspapers & posters? Or is that just a gameplay mechanic and that's what's happening at all times?

No. Like almost any other building the Propaganda Centre's working hours is a typical 10 hour shift. Its function is to gather intel on people's mood and inform you of potential protests.

Delivering news bulletin's is one of their duties but for the building, it's an ability. Which means it's not constantly functioning. One you use manually. This ability has a cooldown of 2 days and the price is 10 units of wood.

The events of Frostpunk occur in an alternative timeline sometime after the late 1880s and since their technology heavily relies on steam, I imagine the Propaganda Center uses a steam powered rotary printing press to print their news bulletin on paper.

Edit: Then once it's hot of the press, they only need to deliver it to each house. Thankfully, the price doesn't increase no matter how many houses you've built.
Last edited by asarokk; Jul 30, 2024 @ 11:31am
asarokk Jul 30, 2024 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by asarokk:
Originally posted by Centurion Zen:
Yeah, but how in terms of methods? Are they finding their own wood to print paper newspapers & giving them a little extra let's them make more flyers to backup the newspapers & posters? Or is that just a gameplay mechanic and that's what's happening at all times?

No. Like almost any other building the Propaganda Centre's working hours is a typical 10 hour shift. Its function is to gather intel on people's mood and inform you of potential protests.

Delivering news bulletin's is one of their duties but for the building, it's an ability. Which means it's not constantly functioning. One you use manually. This ability has a cooldown of 2 days and the price is 10 units of wood.

The events of Frostpunk occur in an alternative timeline sometime after the late 1880s and since their technology heavily relies on steam, I imagine the Propaganda Center uses a steam powered version of Charles Mahon's printing press to print their news bulletin on paper.

Edit: Then once it's hot of the press, they only need to deliver it to each house. Thankfully, the price doesn't increase no matter how many houses you've built.
The Queen Salis Jul 30, 2024 @ 3:36pm 
Right, one of their most important functions is actually invigilation of the population to inform you what the pain points are
Centurion Zen Jul 31, 2024 @ 7:37pm 
Originally posted by asarokk:
Originally posted by Centurion Zen:
Yeah, but how in terms of methods? Are they finding their own wood to print paper newspapers & giving them a little extra let's them make more flyers to backup the newspapers & posters? Or is that just a gameplay mechanic and that's what's happening at all times?

No. Like almost any other building the Propaganda Centre's working hours is a typical 10 hour shift. Its function is to gather intel on people's mood and inform you of potential protests.

Delivering news bulletin's is one of their duties but for the building, it's an ability. Which means it's not constantly functioning. One you use manually. This ability has a cooldown of 2 days and the price is 10 units of wood.

The events of Frostpunk occur in an alternative timeline sometime after the late 1880s and since their technology heavily relies on steam, I imagine the Propaganda Center uses a steam powered rotary printing press to print their news bulletin on paper.

Edit: Then once it's hot of the press, they only need to deliver it to each house. Thankfully, the price doesn't increase no matter how many houses you've built.

Small correction; the center works twenty four hours with day and night shifts.

But that second part is what i'm trying to get at, there seems to be a disconnect between gameplay and reality - it wouldn't make sense for the building to consume wood to keep hope up so that is contained in a ability (gameplay wise), even though It look and sounds like it's printing flyers 24/7 (which is what I understand reading everything about it on the wiki and playing with it).

And judging from the audio to building makes when you click on it (https://youtu.be/mF2rstckWWA), that thing about the steam powered rotary printing press is likely.:COH3UK::SE4Fortitude:
CloudSeeker Aug 3, 2024 @ 2:00pm 
Well. You already have good examples of how a propagana center works. Just look to mainstream media and you see nothing but lies and propaganda. News is not there for you to learn what is going on. It is curated opinions in order to make you think in a certain way. News outlets are gatekeepers on infomration, and they think they have the right to tell you what to think.

News have never really been unbiased. It has always been skewed towards one side or another. The closest you might get is after WW2 in the USA up to around the 60's or so. Back then laws forced media outlets to give airtime to both political sides, at least to a degree.
If you were CNN and very left wing. You may be forced to give around 10-20% airtime to the right wing in your broadcasting.
The way broadcasters solved this was by simply having 100% unbiased news that never really questioned any side, but brought up all arguments from both sides.
However because of McCarthyism, these broadcasters started to feel guilty. Like they were involved in all of it. They thought so because they never challenged Joseph McCarthy but allowed him to present his case. Ever since then, news have never been unbiased. It is curated speech trying to inform you what you should think based on the morality of news editor. And because of how successful the USA is, the rest of the western world adopt the same style as the US does.

These people want to prevent a new Second Red Scare by controlling your opinions by simply refusing to give you the facts and information you need to make an informed decision. This is why modern news is propagnda. They all lie to you by withholding information they don't think you need. If I read the news in my country (not from the US), all I can read is how much of a pure demon Trump is. How everyone loves Kamala Harris. That Isreal are all evil, and ofc that we shouldn't coddle Isreal as much as we do. I have yet in my life seen a single news outlet having a single pro-Isreal article, but I see pro-Palestine and Hamas articles almost every single day.

If you want to know how a propaganda center works. Just look to your own local news paper. It works just like they do.
Centurion Zen Aug 3, 2024 @ 8:24pm 
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
Well. You already have good examples of how a propagana center works. Just look to mainstream media and you see nothing but lies and propaganda. News is not there for you to learn what is going on. It is curated opinions in order to make you think in a certain way. News outlets are gatekeepers on infomration, and they think they have the right to tell you what to think.

News have never really been unbiased. It has always been skewed towards one side or another. The closest you might get is after WW2 in the USA up to around the 60's or so. Back then laws forced media outlets to give airtime to both political sides, at least to a degree.
If you were CNN and very left wing. You may be forced to give around 10-20% airtime to the right wing in your broadcasting.
The way broadcasters solved this was by simply having 100% unbiased news that never really questioned any side, but brought up all arguments from both sides.
However because of McCarthyism, these broadcasters started to feel guilty. Like they were involved in all of it. They thought so because they never challenged Joseph McCarthy but allowed him to present his case. Ever since then, news have never been unbiased. It is curated speech trying to inform you what you should think based on the morality of news editor. And because of how successful the USA is, the rest of the western world adopt the same style as the US does.

These people want to prevent a new Second Red Scare by controlling your opinions by simply refusing to give you the facts and information you need to make an informed decision. This is why modern news is propagnda. They all lie to you by withholding information they don't think you need. If I read the news in my country (not from the US), all I can read is how much of a pure demon Trump is. How everyone loves Kamala Harris. That Isreal are all evil, and ofc that we shouldn't coddle Isreal as much as we do. I have yet in my life seen a single news outlet having a single pro-Isreal article, but I see pro-Palestine and Hamas articles almost every single day.

If you want to know how a propaganda center works. Just look to your own local news paper. It works just like they do.


That's not... bro, I'm asking if they use paper or not. The idea that the propaganda center is giving people hope by putting a spin on everything while not outright lying is likely but I'm talking about the logistics and the materials. And I'm not talking about real life right now.:orwell_shout:
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Date Posted: Jul 29, 2024 @ 8:59pm
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