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Velez0777 Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:26am
Standard measurements/Farenhight?
I've been watching alot of gameplay over youtube and live streamers. But i have not knoticed any use of the Standard system of weights and measurements. Currently i've only seen the Metric system being used.

Will the release of this game include temperature in farenhight?
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Skirlasvoud Nov 21, 2017 @ 6:26am 
The grand majority of the of the developed, industrial world (which is where this game hopes to find its customers) uses the metric system, with degrees celcius.
ALL of the world's scientists and military personel use kilometers and degrees celcius.

Poland also uses metric and degrees celcius, which is where the development studio is located.

There's no indication yet, nor any reason I can see, why the devs would feel the desire to include Fahrenheit as the measure of temperature.


That said, I don't think it'd be very hard to implement for those stuck in the past...
Last edited by Skirlasvoud; Nov 21, 2017 @ 6:28am
ゲ-で Nov 21, 2017 @ 11:53am 
Never get why the heck USA uses such an odd and stupid sistem, with oz, stupid fahrenheit, miles, inches, m.d.y and so on...
But back to game, Celsius looks cool, since almost everyone knows 0 is a freezing point, and from what I saw temerature in this game drops and rises only by 10c, so -10c looks cool, -20c looks cool... but 14f doesn't looks cool, it looks like an arbitrary number and -4f neither looks cool - another arbitrary number. And again zero in celcius is very important number for almost any living creature, but in fahrenheit it's not a zero it's freaking 32 - da ♥♥♥♥ is that number, another random thing? In fahrenheit water freezing point means nothing, why the heck any living creature would use a system with "random" freezing and boiling points for freshwater?
I don't say game shouldn't use F for US, but what I'm saying F doesn't look as stylish as Celsius with its clear and solid numbers.
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Richon Nov 21, 2017 @ 12:55pm 
However, the game is set in the 1880s, at which time, if memory serves, the British still used the Imperial system. Since in the game you play as 19th century British survivors, wouldn't it be more authentic to use Imperial units?
ゲ-で Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Richon:
However, the game is set in the 1880s, at which time, if memory serves, the British still used the Imperial system. Since in the game you play as 19th century British survivors, wouldn't it be more authentic to use Imperial units?
Make the game british english only would be authentic too, but not everyone knows english, and nobody, except US, uses fahrenheit. The whole world shouldn't have to learn a "new" useless scale, only because of US and "authentic"
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Richon Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:03pm 
As for Farenheit, it isn't random as some in this discussion have suggested, but rather is calibrated to multiple factor points, namely:
- the freezing point of brine (0 F)
- the freezing point of water (32 F)
- the internal temperature of the human body (96 F*)

The calibrations were designed to allow for easy incremental measurement of temperature. So the freezing point of water being at 32 is anything but random. It is deliberate, calculated, and absolutely sensible.

While the Celsius scale may be simpler to work with in some respects, its simplicity also makes it deficient at precise measurements. Farenheit is far and away the more precise scale.

*Modern science has, of course, developed a more precise measurement of the human internal body temp than was available to Mr. Farenheit in the 18th century.
Richon Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by G-d has left the building:
Originally posted by Richon:
However, the game is set in the 1880s, at which time, if memory serves, the British still used the Imperial system. Since in the game you play as 19th century British survivors, wouldn't it be more authentic to use Imperial units?
Make the game british english only would be authentic too, but not everyone knows english, and nobody, except US, uses fahrenheit. The whole world shouldn't have to learn a "new" useless scale, only because of US and "authentic"
Calm down. Why does Farenheit offend you so?
ゲ-で Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by Richon:
As for Farenheit, it isn't random as some in this discussion have suggested, but rather is calibrated to multiple factor points, namely:
- the freezing point of brine (0 F)
- the freezing point of water (32 F)
- the internal temperature of the human body (96 F*)

The calibrations were designed to allow for easy incremental measurement of temperature. So the freezing point of water being at 32 is anything but random. It is deliberate, calculated, and absolutely sensible.

While the Celsius scale may be simpler to work with in some respects, its simplicity also makes it deficient at precise measurements. Farenheit is far and away the more precise scale.

*Modern science has, of course, developed a more precise measurement of the human internal body temp than was available to Mr. Farenheit in the 18th century.
Both Fahrenheit and Kelvin are good for chemistry and staff like this, but not for everyday purposes.
ゲ-で Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Richon:
Originally posted by G-d has left the building:
Make the game british english only would be authentic too, but not everyone knows english, and nobody, except US, uses fahrenheit. The whole world shouldn't have to learn a "new" useless scale, only because of US and "authentic"
Calm down. Why does Farenheit offend you so?
It doesn't.
Fahrenheit once touched me, when I was a kid... in you know...
Richon Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:07pm 
Originally posted by G-d has left the building:
Originally posted by Richon:
As for Farenheit, it isn't random as some in this discussion have suggested, but rather is calibrated to multiple factor points, namely:
- the freezing point of brine (0 F)
- the freezing point of water (32 F)
- the internal temperature of the human body (96 F*)

The calibrations were designed to allow for easy incremental measurement of temperature. So the freezing point of water being at 32 is anything but random. It is deliberate, calculated, and absolutely sensible.

While the Celsius scale may be simpler to work with in some respects, its simplicity also makes it deficient at precise measurements. Farenheit is far and away the more precise scale.

*Modern science has, of course, developed a more precise measurement of the human internal body temp than was available to Mr. Farenheit in the 18th century.
Both Fahrenheit and Kelvin are good for chemistry and staff like this, but not for everyday purposes.
So it isn't useless? Thank you. As for everyday, speaking as someone who deals in F every day, it's perfectly suitable to everyday usage. The reason you don't think so is because you're not used to it. But the same works in reverse. For me, C makes no sense in every day usage. You tell me it's 23 degrees outside? What does that even mean? To me, that sounds very chilly.
ゲ-で Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by Richon:
Originally posted by G-d has left the building:
Both Fahrenheit and Kelvin are good for chemistry and staff like this, but not for everyday purposes.
So it isn't useless? Thank you. As for everyday, speaking as someone who deals in F every day, it's perfectly suitable to everyday usage. The reason you don't think so is because you're not used to it. But the same works in reverse. For me, C makes no sense in every day usage. You tell me it's 23 degrees outside? What does that even mean? To me, that sounds very chilly.
Okay for u zero is a melting point of brine, are you made of brine? How often do you need to boil a pot of brine? How many creatures around you made of brine? I've never been to US, but if the main liquid of your body is brine - it makes point. Fahrenheit is fine for everyday things for brine-based creatures. For us - water-based creatures 0 is a very important point - below it water freezes and it changes everything for us and around us. And the boiling point is also important since we use it for many things. I know - boiling point in C depends on air pressure but it mostly stays the same, unless you're high in mountains or in depths of an ocean
Btw 23 is fine a little bit hot for me, but fine.
On the other hand if your sky drops snow made of brine - it makes making pickles much more easier.
Last edited by ゲ-で; Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:19pm
Richon Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by G-d has left the building:
Originally posted by Richon:
So it isn't useless? Thank you. As for everyday, speaking as someone who deals in F every day, it's perfectly suitable to everyday usage. The reason you don't think so is because you're not used to it. But the same works in reverse. For me, C makes no sense in every day usage. You tell me it's 23 degrees outside? What does that even mean? To me, that sounds very chilly.
Okay for u zero is a melting point of brine, are you made of brine? How often do you need to boil a pot of brine? How many creatures around you made of brine? I've never been to US, but if the main liquid of your body is brine - it makes point. Fahrenheit is fine for everyday things for brine-based creatures. For us - water-based creatures 0 is a very important point - below it water freezes and it changes everything for us and around us. And the boiling point is also important since we use it for many things. I know - boiling point in C depends on air pressure but it mostly stays the same, unless you're high in mountains or in depths of an ocean
Btw 23 is fine a little bit hot for me, but fine.
On the other hand if your sky drops snow made of brine - it makes making pickles much more easier.
Way to completely miss the point of what I was saying. Have a nice day.
ゲ-で Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:27pm 
Originally posted by Richon:
Originally posted by G-d has left the building:
Okay for u zero is a melting point of brine, are you made of brine? How often do you need to boil a pot of brine? How many creatures around you made of brine? I've never been to US, but if the main liquid of your body is brine - it makes point. Fahrenheit is fine for everyday things for brine-based creatures. For us - water-based creatures 0 is a very important point - below it water freezes and it changes everything for us and around us. And the boiling point is also important since we use it for many things. I know - boiling point in C depends on air pressure but it mostly stays the same, unless you're high in mountains or in depths of an ocean
Btw 23 is fine a little bit hot for me, but fine.
On the other hand if your sky drops snow made of brine - it makes making pickles much more easier.
Way to completely miss the point of what I was saying. Have a nice day.
Point is - you can eat your soup with fork coz everyone around does it and you were taught to do so, but a spoon could make it much more easier. Because spoon was made to eat liquid food. And you're the guy with a fork, when the others took spoons for lunch.
Have a good night.
Last edited by ゲ-で; Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:29pm
morriskend Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by Skirlasvoud:
The grand majority of the of the developed, industrial world (which is where this game hopes to find its customers) uses the metric system, with degrees celcius.
ALL of the world's scientists and military personel use kilometers and degrees celcius.

Poland also uses metric and degrees celcius, which is where the development studio is located.

There's no indication yet, nor any reason I can see, why the devs would feel the desire to include Fahrenheit as the measure of temperature.


That said, I don't think it'd be very hard to implement for those stuck in the past...


Well, there are two types of countries those that use Celcius and those that went to the moon 50 years ago.
Velez0777 Nov 21, 2017 @ 1:52pm 
Im not asking that the game be changed because of one country. Im just asking is it possible to add this option into the game for US customers. Multi-launguage support has already been confimed, why not measurements too? I'm not sure adding Kelvin would do much because of its larger numbers.
magoo Nov 21, 2017 @ 9:20pm 
I couldnt find it specifically saying celsius or fahrenheit in any of the screenshots. I just see a number of degrees. Since the developer is based in Poland I would aswome it would be in celsius. ethier way it goes celsius and fahrenheit isnt that hard to figure out, its like saying 24 hour time should never be used because the majority uses 12 hour time.
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