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Prophet_01 Aug 9, 2018 @ 8:32am
Why can't we treat ill prisoners?
I don't want my inmates to die in prison. I can't rly see a good reason why they shouldn't see a doctor. Prisons are certainly not a nice thing to have, but I want them to restrict people, not kill them, duh.

I'm definitely ok with locking people up to not have them go on a deathmarch to London, but I'd rather release the sick ones instead of seeing them dead. If they continue to cause trouble afterwards, fine.
I actually just reloaded an older safe file and released all prsioners; for some reason that only caused discontent, but they aren't londoners anymore. So at least there's a workaround for now.

Isn't this the kind of moral dilemma that the game usually rubs in your face? : P
Last edited by Prophet_01; Aug 9, 2018 @ 8:44am
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cowabunga Aug 9, 2018 @ 2:53pm 
Exactly! Have to wait 3 days and if they're seriously ill..KAPUT!
Does disabling the Prison work?
cowabunga Aug 9, 2018 @ 4:11pm 
Wouldn't that let out all of them?
stevasaur Aug 9, 2018 @ 4:26pm 
IIRC, if the prison gets disabled for any reason while there's prisoners inside it, you'll get a "prisoners on the streets" event which increases Discontent. Had this happen when I accidentally disconnected the street while I was re-jiggering the city layout.
cowabunga Aug 9, 2018 @ 4:29pm 
ok
Prophet_01 Aug 9, 2018 @ 11:20pm 
If you release the whole bunch like that, it increases discontent a lot. They also keep their prisoner classification and can't be assigned to jobs. So you need to reopen the prison and lock them up again for the entire duration of their punishment. A heavy price to safe one person.
Alcator Aug 10, 2018 @ 12:46am 
You will have to go on Twitter and tweet this to the developers. They don't seem to care what goes on in Steam forums.
MoreLenore Sep 3, 2018 @ 9:08am 
I know this is an old thread but I had this same concern and I've been thinking more about it.

I think it is a great realistic addition to the game that you cannot heal prisoners unless they are released, which raises discontent significantly. If you have the ability to sacrifice the discontent levels then you can save the life of a prisoner. It's about how well you prepare and play the game on an emotional/moral level to be able to make that sacrifice and tough choice to save a life even though they're a criminal. It touches on the real life death penalty debate. Some players who support it will let them die in prison. Others may see the sacrifice worthwhile.

A suggestion for the devs, though, who I do think read into the steam forums:
Create the ability to select an individual prisoner and opt to treat them in a medical facility. While that might increase discontent to a degree, and I don't think that it should be more than 10-15% increase in overall discontent for each prisoner the player chooses to release to be treated. That way if the player is diligent about treating prisoners, if done well, as each prisoner gets sick they can be treated with minimal effect on, say, the Londoners gaining followers. Sure it's one more thing to micromanage but I would really like that opportunity to treat a sick prisoner instead of having the only option as to shut down the prison enirely.

Ultimately I agree with the levels of discontent associated with closing the prison. I just wish there were additional options to treat sick prisoners.
cowabunga Sep 3, 2018 @ 1:27pm 
Not all of the prisoners are on death row. They should have a medical facility in prisons to deal with it if the devs wish to. BTW I found it better to use the Religous Belief system but that's my preference.
GlassDeviant Sep 3, 2018 @ 9:55pm 
Originally posted by More Lenore:
old thread

It's less than a month old. Don't be worried about necroing threads that are barely out of diapers.

On-topic, not being able to heal prisoners or at least keep them alive, though ill, amkes no sense. There are employees in the prison, why aren't they treating the sick? This doesn't happen in real prisons, not even Guantanamo Bay, unless they are in really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ little third rate countries run by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
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Date Posted: Aug 9, 2018 @ 8:32am
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