Warm homes quest broken?

[Ruin]

ALL of my homes are at least liveable, yet I keep failing this damn'd quest... Is it currently broken, or what?

[Medium Difficulty]

Are you keeping them liveable? The second part of that quest is to keep them at that temp for at least 2 days.

[Musashi The Red Mist.]

Don't bother imo. The Goal eclipses side quests.

[ElPrezCBF]

It isn't broken. There are 2 parts in this quest. The first is to meet the required number of homes heated to livable. It's easier to warm more homes with less steam hubs by dedicating a sector to housing instead of spreading out housing all over the place or simply all around the generator. This would allow you to heat as many homes as possible with fewer steam hubs.

Once you've met the first objective, the second is to keep them heated for the next 2 days. You have to pay attention to the weather as the temperature may drop during this period, which means homes that were previously counted as "livable" may no longer be so after the temp falls. If that's your situation, you'll have to plan heating upgrade research ahead of time and increase your generator power if steam hubs aren't enough. Bear in mind that the generator needs some time to reach its higher tier power after you activate it, so you can't wait till the last minute to do so.

[Ruin]

That's the thing, all my homes were liveable, or better... I had centralised them around the main furnace, and a couple steam hubs to ensure they were as warm as possible...

Doesn't matter... I'm starting to regret buying the game as a whole... Starting to not be what I was hoping for...

[Metal_Masher]

I had this quest as well I competed it by doing the 2 steps both Hanith and twel70 said, going start over the game as I made a few mistakes in other events so I'm going start fresh with the knowledge gained in the first play through.

[ElPrezCBF]

Originally posted by Ruin:

That's the thing, all my homes were liveable, or better... I had centralised them around the main furnace, and a couple steam hubs to ensure they were as warm as possible...

Doesn't matter... I'm starting to regret buying the game as a whole... Starting to not be what I was hoping for...

Steam hubs don't guarantee adequate warmth after the temp drops below a certain level. I think you need to upgrade them. Basically, you need to have adequate heating power on hand to offset any temp drop that would render houses no longer "livable".

[requiemfang]

Originally posted by twel70:

Originally posted by Ruin:

That's the thing, all my homes were liveable, or better... I had centralised them around the main furnace, and a couple steam hubs to ensure they were as warm as possible...

Doesn't matter... I'm starting to regret buying the game as a whole... Starting to not be what I was hoping for...

Steam hubs don't guarantee adequate warmth after the temp drops below a certain level. I think you need to upgrade them. Basically, you need to have adequate heating power on hand to offset any temp drop that would render houses no longer "livable".

Steam hubs give off the same level of heat the generator gives off. If it's only set on level 1 the hubs give off the same, turn on lvl 2-4 and heat lvls for hubs match them. The hubs are basically extensions of the generator's heat generating areas which is why they need to be connected via roads/paths since the pipes are built in them.

https://frostpunk.gamepedia.com/Generator
https://frostpunk.gamepedia.com/Steam_Hub

the generator link there even states the heat levels of the generator are linked to steam hubs and thus give off the same heat levels it does, as well as the fuel usage.

[ElPrezCBF]

Originally posted by requiemfang:

Originally posted by twel70:

Steam hubs don't guarantee adequate warmth after the temp drops below a certain level. I think you need to upgrade them. Basically, you need to have adequate heating power on hand to offset any temp drop that would render houses no longer "livable".

Steam hubs give off the same level of heat the generator gives off. If it's only set on level 1 the hubs give off the same, turn on lvl 2-4 and heat lvls for hubs match them. The hubs are basically extensions of the generator's heat generating areas which is why they need to be connected via roads/paths since the pipes are built in them.

https://frostpunk.gamepedia.com/Generator
https://frostpunk.gamepedia.com/Steam_Hub

the generator link there even states the heat levels of the generator are linked to steam hubs and thus give off the same heat levels it does, as well as the fuel usage.

I am quite certain the hub heat level stacks on top of the generator heat level even if both correspond to each other. Which means that if the temp falls below a certain level, say cold modifier is -6 but the generator plus hub heat modifier is +4 (+2 plus +2) for example, the housing temp modifier would be the net of these or -2. I don't have all the exact modifier numbers including the effect of housing level and insulation tech modifiers but that's how I understand it works. In other words, no, hubs do not guarantee adequate heating if temp falls below a certain level, unless you upgrade for those other modifiers as well.

[erneiz]

No, steam hubs don't stack with each other nor with the generator.

[ElPrezCBF]

Originally posted by erneiz:

No, steam hubs don't stack with each other nor with the generator.

Ah it gets clearer now. Steam hubs act as proxy generators but unless the generator heat level modifier plus other heat modifiers offset the temp drop, previously liveable housing will no longer be so. So the effect as I mentioned is still the same.

[Ruin]

I'm actually referring to the best map visibility... All homes were liveable or better, but the quest would repeatedly time out...

[ElPrezCBF]

Originally posted by Ruin:

I'm actually referring to the best map visibility... All homes were liveable or better, but the quest would repeatedly time out...

Huh? You will fail the first part of the quest if you do not heat the required number before time runs out. The second part is just waiting for the 2 days to pass. If you fail the first part, you obviously won't be able to do the second.

[gumesonkamp]

I have from time to time did heat up the homes but failed because the temperature dropped so I overheat just before if temperature falls if not then back to normal. I try my best to heat up the houses or upgrade before they whine. oh yeah, once I upgraded tent to a bulkhouse it said I failed! #&$*@&

[Zwentibold]

temperatures may drop... check the forecast, if required build a steam bulb (or whatever it's called).
Upgrading lodging means better isolation, not better heathing. It shouldn't fail the objective as far as I know, but while upgrading, people have no lodging...

Newbie in the game so, maybe a more experienced player could solve this issue...

Plus if uprading your generator (wich affect bulbs) it takes some time to power it up..

[Claus]

Ok. This quest works with any house that is below leveable temperature. It don't count if the house is already in leveable condition. Beir in mind that this quest has 2 goals. The 1st is to get it to leveable condition the other is to maintain leveable condidion for about 2 days. (weather can drop and the quest fails).