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Faskimy Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:01am
The Ark - No heater without Steam Hub?
Hi,

I'm playing The Ark scenario, and I had an unpleasant surprise when I realized that my four Seedling Arks seemed to loose their heaters when the temperature dropped bellow -60. Why?

One of them had a turned off Steam Hub next to it. I turned it on to see what happens, and all of a sudden, the heater in my Ark building went back on, making now the place "Confortable" which is too high for no reason (loss of coal efficiency). If I shut the Steam Hub down, the Heater in the Ark is shut down as well. It's as if the Heater needed a Steam Hub nearby to work.

Unless I missed something, this game mechanic is not explained anywhere, and I wonder if it's simply a bug. Of course, since all the Arks are built apart from each other, I had to rush build 3 other Steam Hubs. Now, everything is super fine, confortable, but I got a huge coal deficit.

Anyone know if this is normal?
Last edited by Faskimy; Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:02am
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Azov Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:05am 
Could you make a picture? Doesn't sound right. When you press the ark building, hover your mouse on the temperature icon, what contributors does it have? Like -4 weather, +2 heat zone +1 heater +1 building insulation or something like that?

Hatti Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:06am 
It may be possible that your heater isnt enough to made any difference on heat level, but its still on. If you hover over the heat level bar in the UI of the ark you can see whats affecting the heat level.
Faskimy Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:20am 
Sorry, I'm not sure how to post a picture, I tried, but doesn't seem to work.

But basically, with the Steam Hub on :
- 4 Weather
+1 Building Insolation
+2 Heat zone
+2 Heater
Making a total of : Liveable

And without Steam Hub :
-4 Weather
+1 Building insolation
(greyed out) +2 Heater
Making a total of : Freezing

Also, when the Steam Hub is off, the image of the Seedling Ark is blurried out, just like when any other building is lacking workers.
Last edited by Faskimy; Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:21am
Hatti Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:24am 
Your heater alone isnt enough to keep the ark running. So the building is "turned off". No need to use a heater that doesnt do anything.
Last edited by Hatti; Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:24am
Azov Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Faskimy:
Sorry, I'm not sure how to post a picture, I tried, but doesn't seem to work.

But basically, with the Steam Hub on :
- 4 Weather
+1 Building Insolation
+2 Heat zone
+2 Heater
Making a total of : Liveable

And without Steam Hub :
-4 Weather
+1 Building insolation
(greyed out) +2 Heater
Making a total of : Freezing

Also, when the Steam Hub is off, the image of the Seedling Ark is blurried out, just like when any other building is lacking workers.

by those numbers it seems if the heated would be on then you would still be 1 heat level behind the minimal required (chilly I think). So my guess is the game detects that and saves the coal, cause this is a binary yes or no. While for other buildings it matters so it doesn't automatically do that.
kaleraven Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:35am 
Originally posted by Faskimy:
Sorry, I'm not sure how to post a picture, I tried, but doesn't seem to work.

But basically, with the Steam Hub on :
- 4 Weather
+1 Building Insolation
+2 Heat zone
+2 Heater
Making a total of : Liveable

And without Steam Hub :
-4 Weather
+1 Building insolation
(greyed out) +2 Heater
Making a total of : Freezing

Also, when the Steam Hub is off, the image of the Seedling Ark is blurried out, just like when any other building is lacking workers.

You need to have Chilly (which is net 0 temperature). Without the Steam Hub, you are at -1, so the arks would be too cold either way. It appears the buildings 'shut off' when too cold, which is why the heaters don't function, however they shut off because it's already too cold, not because the heaters turned off.
Azov Apr 28, 2018 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by kaleraven:
Originally posted by Faskimy:
Sorry, I'm not sure how to post a picture, I tried, but doesn't seem to work.

But basically, with the Steam Hub on :
- 4 Weather
+1 Building Insolation
+2 Heat zone
+2 Heater
Making a total of : Liveable

And without Steam Hub :
-4 Weather
+1 Building insolation
(greyed out) +2 Heater
Making a total of : Freezing

Also, when the Steam Hub is off, the image of the Seedling Ark is blurried out, just like when any other building is lacking workers.

You need to have Chilly (which is net 0 temperature). Without the Steam Hub, you are at -1, so the arks would be too cold either way. It appears the buildings 'shut off' when too cold, which is why the heaters don't function, however they shut off because it's already too cold, not because the heaters turned off.
That's what I've said
Faskimy Apr 28, 2018 @ 8:53pm 
Yep, that was indeed my problem. Thanks guys for the answer!
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