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NikAkulov Apr 28, 2018 @ 9:40am
Can you cancel laws?
Title. For example, if i enable child labor early game, in the late game can i cancel it and replace with child shelters?
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Azov Apr 28, 2018 @ 9:48am 
You can't, but I think it should be implemented cause that would make sense. This law is not as big as some others so it would make sense it could be changed. They could update it so some decisions could be changed once per game or every few days, not all of them though.
Bzm Apr 28, 2018 @ 10:02am 
As stated before, you can cancel/repeal any laws.

I believe the main reason behind that is that the game is designed to force you to make hard decisions and live with the concequences, just like in a real life/death scenario. In real life you can't cut Bob's leg off and then decide later on to reverse that. The game is also designed to get harder and harder as time goes by. So changing the laws would be contrary to all of that.

As for the specific child labor law,, that is very easy. Just don't use them as part of your labor force afterwards if you don't want to. They will stay at home and not get hurt at work.
Ant Ra Apr 28, 2018 @ 10:12am 
In real life laws change every legislative period, generation, dictators/kings span of life.

Suspension of laws if not longer needed should be implemented. of course child labour can be easily avoided to not put them into factories as example. But it would give a better game feeling - the flow of situation.
Last edited by Ant Ra; Apr 28, 2018 @ 10:13am
Bzm Apr 28, 2018 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by Nopel:
In real life laws change every legislative period, generation, dictators/kings span of life.

Suspension of laws if not longer needed should be implemented. of course child labour can be easily avoided to not put them into factories as example. But it would give a better game feeling - the flow of situation.

You seemed to have missed the whole point of the game.

This isn't some ordinary sim game where you are trying to build up your city and simply make it bigger. You are trying to survive what is basically the end of the world. You are doing what is needed to survive. Making people happy is not at the top of the list (it is up there, but making sure people don't die from hunger/lack of heat is higher).

The game isn't suppose to give you a good feeling when implementing the laws. You are doing what is needed, not always what is right. Make the decison then move on. Because you don't have much time to prepare before the end is here.

If they do add it to the game, I think it would only be fitting if it were added to the "endless mode". For once you have finished the scenario, then it isn't really isn't fitting with the original setting of the game.
Dueling law was the biggest mistake I allowed in my city.
My city was stable. I only allowed Dueling law because I had all other laws enabled. Now I'm loosing citizens when everything else in the city is near perfect and I'm worshipped as a god. Lol.
In case you couldn't tell, I'm playing on easy mode. XD But I'm still wishing I could remove dueling law somehow.
Bomoo Jan 7, 2021 @ 8:32pm 
Just like in real life, you can't EVER change laws once they're enacted. EVER under any circumstances.
Amanoob105 Jan 8, 2021 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Folie Nephilim of Madness:
Dueling law was the biggest mistake I allowed in my city.
My city was stable. I only allowed Dueling law because I had all other laws enabled. Now I'm loosing citizens when everything else in the city is near perfect and I'm worshipped as a god. Lol.
In case you couldn't tell, I'm playing on easy mode. XD But I'm still wishing I could remove dueling law somehow.
Guessing you didn't take the snowpit law. If you had then all those bodies would be more than welcome.
Free fertilizer.
General Idea Jan 8, 2021 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Folie Nephilim of Madness:
Dueling law was the biggest mistake I allowed in my city.
My city was stable. I only allowed Dueling law because I had all other laws enabled. Now I'm loosing citizens when everything else in the city is near perfect and I'm worshipped as a god. Lol.
In case you couldn't tell, I'm playing on easy mode. XD But I'm still wishing I could remove dueling law somehow.
You are not obliged to take any law. You can choose to play without any. I wouldn't recommend doing so, but it is an option for added difficulty if you so wish. Probably more appropriate for playing on easy level without laws.
Ikazuchi Jan 8, 2021 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Folie Nephilim of Madness:
Dueling law was the biggest mistake I allowed in my city.
My city was stable. I only allowed Dueling law because I had all other laws enabled. Now I'm loosing citizens when everything else in the city is near perfect and I'm worshipped as a god. Lol.
In case you couldn't tell, I'm playing on easy mode. XD But I'm still wishing I could remove dueling law somehow.

Yeah it is something that is only "as is" due to game balance.
Else it would be a better idea to put kids to work first and later change it to shelters.
It would be realistic, but not balanced.
Which kind of breaks the game for me.
Preacher Jun 20, 2021 @ 12:57pm 
This is a really dumb mechanic. Why wouldn't we be able to decide to change laws? Yeah yeah, "makes you think about hard decisions" but laws aren't written in stone as cutting someone's legs off.
General Idea Jun 20, 2021 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Preacher:
This is a really dumb mechanic. Why wouldn't we be able to decide to change laws? Yeah yeah, "makes you think about hard decisions" but laws aren't written in stone as cutting someone's legs off.
You make your decisions and either rejoice or suffer the consequences of your actions. When you choose a law it is locked in place and there's no going back. That door has closed behind you.
Ikazuchi Jun 21, 2021 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by Preacher:
This is a really dumb mechanic. Why wouldn't we be able to decide to change laws? Yeah yeah, "makes you think about hard decisions" but laws aren't written in stone as cutting someone's legs off.

True,
but many many games sacrifice realism on the altar of game balance.
For if you had total freedom the challenge would be gone.
Amanoob105 Jun 21, 2021 @ 10:25pm 
Originally posted by Ikazuchi:
Originally posted by Preacher:
This is a really dumb mechanic. Why wouldn't we be able to decide to change laws? Yeah yeah, "makes you think about hard decisions" but laws aren't written in stone as cutting someone's legs off.

True,
but many many games sacrifice realism on the altar of game balance.
For if you had total freedom the challenge would be gone.
Basically this^.
xMarekSvk Sep 21, 2022 @ 1:24am 
when you bring cancel law ? it make sense in this game
Amanoob105 Sep 21, 2022 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by xMarekSvk:
when you bring cancel law ? it make sense in this game
If by "you", you mean the devs then, never. This game is no longer being worked on and nothing new is going to be added to it.
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