High GPU temperatures ? Why?

[karmazyn1]

MSI Gtx 1080 gaming x. GPU temp 74-75 degrees. For a game about surviving in sub zero temperatures GPU is heating like a generator. Please patch it. Vsync is on.lol. game looks sweet but 75 degrees
C'mon dudes. It should bot heat more than 69-70.

[karmazyn1]

Originally posted by Leo3ABP:

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

Wow somebody just poured water of cold bucket over my head. There must be something wrong here. I cant see how games like DOOM, Crysis, Fallout 4, GTA run 8-10 degrees cooler than this. I will try to limit frames using nvidia inspector to 60 fps and report the results. I think that the same happened to me with Divinity 2. I had fps uncapped and GPU was heating to 74 degrees too. Divinity has fps limiter so after capping it to 60 using ingame menu game runs 66-67 degrees. Frostpunk does not have fps limiter option but one would think that Vsync on would solve it as game would be forced to display 60 fps only, no? But clearly game displays 61-62 so maybe vsync does not work as it should as more fps is pushed to GPU. Thats why frame limiter ingame option or patch would help. After all, not everyone needa to know what nvidia inspector is.

As I said already, first a foremost stop watching data you unable to properly interpret that will - solve all your worries.
Modern GPUs are designed for a very high temps with most (at least NVidia) have their working limits up to 92 degrees and turning off at 94. And beofre you start mumbling something about "oh but higher temps damage your gpu over time" no they are not unless you intentionally run your card on critical levels for weeks, months and years.
Stop reading that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on sites like tomshardware where most of the people have no idea what they talking about and just repeat same nonsense that somebody else said in the past. Because I see way too much people who would read couple of articles on those sites, suddenly think themself tech savvy, install a bunch of monitoring and tweaking software and start create problems where there has been none.
Clearly considering the "issue" you describing, you are one of those people

So in other words - your GPU is fine no matter whether it runs on 71, 75 or 80 degrees. So uninstall your nvidia inspector and forget it exists untill you actually learn more about PCs, and not from a random anonimous dudes on the internet forum, because currently you doing yourself more harm than good.


Secondly, the way game looks on your screen has little to do with how it utilizes your PC resourses. The are many older games and many games that look like something form 2001 that will load your gpu to full load. It has to do with coding and not how the game actually looks on your screen, how new it is or what graphical features it has.

Well you are very presomptious. I built my own PC and I know enough and believe that this temperature is due to the poor optimazation and is too high. Yes it will not damage by GPU, like you said, it is designed to withstand these temperatures but it does not answer why this game runs so hot. There is nothing there to push it so much.

[karmazyn1]

Originally posted by fp070:

Oh God, so it's not just me? I was quite terrified when I saw my GTX 1080 reach 80 degrees after less than an hour. Before somebody says that it's normal- I'm on water cooling and it never went above 65-66 after hours of stress (100% usage). It's first game reaching so high values.

You are not alone. The thing I dont think its normal. Are there any other GTX owners who could report their temperatures here?

[Jacknm2]

Currently My 980ti sits at 66°C and after length of playing I have seen it hit 70°C but no higher than that.

The Game does max out GPU usage at 95 - 100% pretty much all the time as well as populating my Vram completely (6GB).

But the room i have my PC in has high ambient temps and poor airflow so I compensated by using an AIO Water cooler and 6 Fans total on my case, 10 if you count the PSU and GPU fans. I've also got a custom Fan curve on both the GPU and Case/Radiator fans

[Leo3ABP]

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

Originally posted by Leo3ABP:

As I said already, first a foremost stop watching data you unable to properly interpret that will - solve all your worries.
Modern GPUs are designed for a very high temps with most (at least NVidia) have their working limits up to 92 degrees and turning off at 94. And beofre you start mumbling something about "oh but higher temps damage your gpu over time" no they are not unless you intentionally run your card on critical levels for weeks, months and years.
Stop reading that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on sites like tomshardware where most of the people have no idea what they talking about and just repeat same nonsense that somebody else said in the past. Because I see way too much people who would read couple of articles on those sites, suddenly think themself tech savvy, install a bunch of monitoring and tweaking software and start create problems where there has been none.
Clearly considering the "issue" you describing, you are one of those people

So in other words - your GPU is fine no matter whether it runs on 71, 75 or 80 degrees. So uninstall your nvidia inspector and forget it exists untill you actually learn more about PCs, and not from a random anonimous dudes on the internet forum, because currently you doing yourself more harm than good.


Secondly, the way game looks on your screen has little to do with how it utilizes your PC resourses. The are many older games and many games that look like something form 2001 that will load your gpu to full load. It has to do with coding and not how the game actually looks on your screen, how new it is or what graphical features it has.

Well you are very presomptious. I built my own PC and I know enough and believe that this temperature is due to the poor optimazation and is too high. Yes it will not damage by GPU, like you said, it is designed to withstand these temperatures but it does not answer why this game runs so hot. There is nothing there to push it so much.

I answered you twice already why the game runs so hot - it has to do with its code just like every other game. Answer might seem obvious and stupid but so is your question. Apart from that only developer will be able to provide you with a further details and they will most likely not except for generic reply that they will look into it because I have yet to see a developer who would discuss its code in depth with some random dude on public gaming forum.

You can try to fiddle with settings or not play at all, it is up to you, but there is literally nothing to stress about, so you only creating additional angst for yourself out of nothing.

There can be multitude of reasons why you get a few degrees higher temps than supposedly your usual (assuming you did collect actual statistic over long periods of time and not just eyeballed NVinspector and decided that you always had less temp that under frostpunk load) and it might be not even related to frostpunk directly (have you done extensive monitoring of other games after playing frostpunk to make sure that their temps stays at your supposed 72 degrees konstant?). It can be anything from thermal paste to an ambient heat to slight impedance change in some elements or even AC frequency issues supplied by your local powerstation, especially considering that you have a very small increase in temps.
Again, there is literally nothing to worry about so you only create a problem out of nothing really


This discussion reminds me one I had some time ago with a guy claiming that he can clearly see and feel the difference between 140 and 128 FPS and because game is so "unoptimized" it makes it unplayable to him. Ultimately had to give up on that idiot because no matter of arguments and scientific data provided could sway him.
So I think I will probably retract myself from this thread because prettymuch anything reasonable that could be said on the "issue" already has been said. Hope you will find solution for your "problem".
Good luck and have a nice day.

[karmazyn1]

Originally posted by Leo3ABP:

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

Well you are very presomptious. I built my own PC and I know enough and believe that this temperature is due to the poor optimazation and is too high. Yes it will not damage by GPU, like you said, it is designed to withstand these temperatures but it does not answer why this game runs so hot. There is nothing there to push it so much.

I answered you twice already why the game runs so hot - it has to do with its code just like every other game. Answer might seem obvious and stupid but so is your question. Apart from that only developer will be able to provide you with a further details and they will most likely not except for generic reply that they will look into it because I have yet to see a developer who would discuss its code in depth with some random dude on public gaming forum.

You can try to fiddle with settings or not play at all, it is up to you, but there is literally nothing to stress about, so you only creating additional angst for yourself out of nothing.

There can be multitude of reasons why you get a few degrees higher temps than supposedly your usual (assuming you did collect actual statistic over long periods of time and not just eyeballed NVinspector and decided that you always had less temp that under frostpunk load) and it might be not even related to frostpunk directly (have you done extensive monitoring of other games after playing frostpunk to make sure that their temps stays at your supposed 72 degrees konstant?). It can be anything from thermal paste to an ambient heat to slight impedance change in some elements or even AC frequency issues supplied by your local powerstation, especially considering that you have a very small increase in temps.
Again, there is literally nothing to worry about so you only create a problem out of nothing really

Thank you. that's reassuring. I will continue playing this game of course. It is such a great game.

[Martian]

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

Originally posted by Arc:

That's not high and that's in its entirety caused by your cooling system (or lack there of if you think it's overheating).

If you want to see how much your GPU heats up under full load then start burn-in test in Furmark.

I dont know. Ambient temperarure is low, around 18 degrees now. I like fresh air. Case has 4 fans. GPU heats up to 71 degrees in all other games at ultra. I just cant justify 75 for a game like thia lol. Yeah it is pretty and I am digging it but 75 cmon.

Sorry but this sounds like a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I mean 18C - no way you would have 75C, only in case with no ventilation. So just do something about your cooling setup.

And please explain why are you demanding that devs fix your cooling setup - like really?

In other news - my 1080 is OCed and happily sits at 60C max in long gaming session, ambient is ~26C. It's a custom loop system w. two rads.

http://i.imgur.com/0w0c2Ss.jpg

[karmazyn1]

Originally posted by Martan:

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

I dont know. Ambient temperarure is low, around 18 degrees now. I like fresh air. Case has 4 fans. GPU heats up to 71 degrees in all other games at ultra. I just cant justify 75 for a game like thia lol. Yeah it is pretty and I am digging it but 75 cmon.

Sorry but this sounds like a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I mean 18C - no way you would have 75C, only in case with no ventilation. So just do something about your cooling setup.

And please explain why are you demanding that devs fix your cooling setup - like really?

In other news - my 1080 is OCed and happily sits at 60C max in long gaming session, ambient is ~26C.

http://i.imgur.com/0w0c2Ss.jpg

Hmmmm I dont know man. Like I said I dont have this problem with any other game. I will definitly have to figure it out. Fps limiter in game could be added by the developers into the settings. I have front intake fan, side intake fan. Top exhaust fan and one at the rear. Case is Zalaman z9. It is a good case and well ventiliated.

[Jacknm2]

Originally posted by Martan:

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

I dont know. Ambient temperarure is low, around 18 degrees now. I like fresh air. Case has 4 fans. GPU heats up to 71 degrees in all other games at ultra. I just cant justify 75 for a game like thia lol. Yeah it is pretty and I am digging it but 75 cmon.

Sorry but this sounds like a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I mean 18C - no way you would have 75C, only in case with no ventilation. So just do something about your cooling setup.

And please explain why are you demanding that devs fix your cooling setup - like really?

In other news - my 1080 is OCed and happily sits at 60C max in long gaming session, ambient is ~26C.

http://i.imgur.com/0w0c2Ss.jpg

I havce to concur with this to some degree, My 980 is overclocked sitting at 1417Mhz (doesnt really compare to Pascal) and I've been playing for 4 hours so far and I'm still sitting at 66°C. My Ambient is similar 24°C but the room isnt well ventilated - cant open windows etc...

If your ambient is higher its somewhat understandable to get higher temps but it would tropical lol.

All I can say is run any game with V-sync or Gsync stuff off and watch your GPU usage go straight up to 100% and monitor your temps from there. Actually run a benchmark / stress test. My GPU isnt currently hovering between 96 - 99% and I see this 66° temp all the time But I set up custom fan curves.

[Jacknm2]

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

Originally posted by Martan:

Sorry but this sounds like a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I mean 18C - no way you would have 75C, only in case with no ventilation. So just do something about your cooling setup.

And please explain why are you demanding that devs fix your cooling setup - like really?

In other news - my 1080 is OCed and happily sits at 60C max in long gaming session, ambient is ~26C.

http://i.imgur.com/0w0c2Ss.jpg

Hmmmm I dont know man. Like I said I dont have this problem with any other game. I will definitly have to figure it out. Fps limiter in game could be added by the developers into the settings. I have front intake fan, side intake fan. Top exhaust fan and one at the rear. Case is Zalaman z9. It is a good case and well ventiliated.

There is, its called V-sync. You can also use Nvidia Inspector to put in a Frame limiter yourself.

In contrast I've got 3 intake fans at the front, 2 Exhaust through a Radiator at the top, a Rear exhaust just on the case then I've got a PSU Fan thats an intake from underneath the case and 3 fans on the GPU 2 Pull 1 push.

[Martian]

But then something must be wrong - either your statements are not true or you have some serious HW problem. There is no way when air coming to case which is ventilated and is around ~20C it will heat up your GPU more in this particular game. Sorry.

[karmazyn1]

Originally posted by Jacknm2:

Originally posted by karmazyn1:

Hmmmm I dont know man. Like I said I dont have this problem with any other game. I will definitly have to figure it out. Fps limiter in game could be added by the developers into the settings. I have front intake fan, side intake fan. Top exhaust fan and one at the rear. Case is Zalaman z9. It is a good case and well ventiliated.

There is, its called V-sync. You can also use Nvidia Inspector to put in a Frame limiter yourself.

I am intending to do this tonight and will post results.

[karmazyn1]

Originally posted by Martan:

But then something must be wrong - either your statements are not true or you have some serious HW problem. There is no way when air coming to case which is ventilated and is around ~20C it will heat up your GPU more in this particular game. Sorry.

I am telling the truth. Why would I lie about something like this.lol. this is not me bro.

[Sorrow]

If you are not comfortable of particulare game pushing your gpu to the limit you shoud always customise MSI afterburner to your liking.
I simply cranked my fan curve 30% higher then stock settings and i got like 8-10C difference in any game.
It wont go over 78 even on the most horrible early access unoptimized games.
Without it it can even crush it on 83C (but on extremely rare cases,we are talking of highly unoptimized games.... so fan curve is a MUST have)
A little louder and a little cooler.

So yeah,your temps are normal without Afterburner custom setup.
Speaking from experiance because i have asus 1070.
Remember even something like super mario coud crush your gpu if the optimization is almost to non existent.

[karmazyn1]

Ok bros. Quick update. Temperature does not exceed 66 degrees now. I updated MSI Afterburber fan curve. It is better now. Fans work at 75% and game does not heat more than 66 degrees. I can concentrate on my city without the need to constantly check temperatures readout.

[Leo3ABP]

way to kill your graphic card cooling. Good job!