Faith or order?

[xnavigator]

Which path is the easiest ? which one do you chose? I chose order but it's almost impossibile to keep up with the londoners

[tzeneth]

Faith is easier if they didn’t make any changes to order since the streamers went over it before release (haven’t done a second run yet). The main faith buildings don’t require people, which mean they don’t need to be warmed.

[Morvandros]

I've played both; neither was easier than the other (that I noticed anyway).
Londeners were easy in both. Faith you convert them; Order I built a prison and managed to capture like 18 of them; 12 wanted to leave, I let them and gave them resources to do it.

[AGAngel]

agreed though faith buildings have better ranges and better abilities in general imo. though they take up more space that doesn't mean much if you plan your construction carefully.

[Fab]

I didn't try Order but faith was stupidly efficient. In the last third of the scenario my Hope was at 100% almost all the time.

[El Guapo]

Only maxed faith so far. Was very easy once I reached the final law which made me a god. Hope was completely removed and thus you only have to deal with discontent which is simple via religious building actions.

[Burggraf]

Order is so much more fun, looks like Nazi camp

[Harris]

Order:

Better city design (going full faith doesn't change much but how the generator looks)
Better production (foremen and agitators > shrines, +60% production with both!)
Better discontent management (patrol and execution give effect immediately)
Two kinds of towers, with Watch Towers to be entirely replaced by Guard Towers as soon as hope turns to obedience
They can struggle with hope at times, but until you've hit new order neighbourhood watch and propaganda helps

Faith:

Better hope management with many religious buidings, hope barely ever an issue
More healthcare and warmth options (though field kitchens require workers and heat themselves and infirmaries > houses of healing)
Most abilities take place only at night and are not instant, this makes planning necessary and makes you vulnerable in a pinch

Overall it feels like Faith is more short term benefits and making mid game easier, and Order is ultimately better late game when you got all necessary research done and houses of healing and kitchens are of not much relevance anymore.

For me, Order > Faith

[Jiro Dragonheart]

Why such extremes, a religious dictatorship or an order based one. I wish there were so other options that would be added at some point. If I had to choose I guess it would be the order one.

[Chashmodai]

Third Reich or Westboro Baptist Church?

It's a tough decision.

[laur_lman]

I like Faith. Better range, good hope, workshop + shrine + engineering apprentices = a whole lot of research speed

[Shirakani]

I went Order... as Faith can kiss my ass. Faith in some nonexistent being that condemned the world to an icy death didn't build the last city on earth keeping mankind alive. Mankind built it with blood, sweat and tears. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.... so if the few step out of line, they get what's coming.

That being said, I didn't sign the New Order law, I got as close as possible without becoming North Korea.

[Chalkstix]

Makes very little difference whether you choose Faith or Order. A lot of the laws have almost the same mechanics (giving buildings with buttons that reduce discontent and increase hope).

[alex.p80]

There isn't much difference, and I'm really surprise you find difficulties with the londoners. You can easily reassorb them even without the more aggressive purpose laws

[Angry Obnoxious Goose]

Originally posted by CyborgJiro:

Why such extremes, a religious dictatorship or an order based one. I wish there were so other options that would be added at some point. If I had to choose I guess it would be the order one.

Maybe because it's a hard choice on what to do in order to keep the people in line and willing to do what is needed for survival.
Alos 'sudden super ice age storm' is sort of a very extreme scenario. You cannot be idealistically altruistic when people complain about it being cold and they don't want to work, etc. etc.
If you allow everyone to just don't go to work every time they complain about it.... Your City will die.
If you've played through the storm you will know that people begin to just go more and more fearful and in the end totally unwilling to go work no matter what, due to their fear and we-are-gonna-die mindset.

[sʜıɴᴏᴠıᴀ]

The best way to fool people is always to Faith