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Nadhras Jul 4, 2019 @ 2:20pm
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Being called Sir
Hello!
I understand this might not be the best place to mention this, but I couldn't think of any other place anyway! I'm not hear to start a war, but just to share my experience.

This is the first game I've ever felt bothered about automatically being a man. The game calls you Sir constantly, and I just got banished (lol!) from my first attempt at the last scenario and was a "him" by the townsfolk as I walked out of the city.

I dont know man, I've just never thought about this before in games and now suddenly I feel bothered? Maybe it's because the game sets you up as just a "leader"; not a person with a personality, body or anything, you don't properly speak to people with dialoge to form your person, nothing... so you don't really have an assigned gender like you would in an RPG for example where I have never felt bothered before.

I guess one could argue it's set in history where there's no chance for a woman to rule, but if so maybe you could let this dude to have a name just to seperate the "Sir" from me, the player.

I just feel disassociated when playing, is all.

Anybody else with a similar experience?
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LittleBlueDuneBuggy Jul 15, 2019 @ 9:00pm 
Originally posted by Rana Aurora:
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh so that's why I always hear men whining so much and calling it "SJW pandering" whenever a video game has a female main character. Because they are NOT bothered. Silly me. I thought it was because they were VERY BOTHERED INDEED.

You don't have to be "bothered" to recognize and call out SJW pandering. It's not the female main character that's the problem in those cases. It's game devs caving to whatever the latest "politically correct trend" is.

But hey - keep finding problems where none exist, and I'll be here to help you through each "crisis".
Originally posted by Rana Aurora:
If the game had started off saying something like "you are John Johnson, the Captain of Winterhome" then referred to me as a man all the time, would have been no big deal. I never would have even thought about it. But as far as I experienced it, I started as just "The Captain" and allowed myself to imagine it was myself. But then eventually my villagers start calling me a "He" and it was kind of jarring. Don't they even know who I am? I went to all this trouble and they think I'm some other guy?

I can see where that would suck. In this case, it would have been better to warn you right off the bat, or just leave gender completely out of the picture.
Rana Aurora Jul 15, 2019 @ 9:03pm 
Originally posted by LittleBlueDuneBuggy:
Originally posted by Rana Aurora:
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh so that's why I always hear men whining so much and calling it "SJW pandering" whenever a video game has a female main character. Because they are NOT bothered. Silly me. I thought it was because they were VERY BOTHERED INDEED.

You don't have to be "bothered" to recognize and call out SJW pandering. It's not the female main character that's the problem in those cases. It's game devs caving to whatever the latest "politically correct trend" is.

But hey - keep finding problems where none exist, and I'll be here to help you through each "crisis".

Basically you're saying that when men criticize something, they're doing it from a place of macho logic. When women criticize something, like a faceless, identity-less "The Captain" having a male gender when it could just as easily have also had a female gender, they are doing it emotionally.

When you criticize something, you're not "bothered" you're just pointing out a flaw. When I criticize something, I'm hysterical and having a crisis!

Nope, definitely no misogyny there. :)
Originally posted by Rana Aurora:
Originally posted by LittleBlueDuneBuggy:

You don't have to be "bothered" to recognize and call out SJW pandering. It's not the female main character that's the problem in those cases. It's game devs caving to whatever the latest "politically correct trend" is.

But hey - keep finding problems where none exist, and I'll be here to help you through each "crisis".

Basically you're saying that when men criticize something, they're doing it from a place of macho logic. When women criticize something, like a faceless, identity-less "The Captain" having a male gender when it could just as easily have also had a female gender, they are doing it emotionally.

When you criticize something, you're not "bothered" you're just pointing out a flaw. When I criticize something, I'm hysterical and having a crisis!

:)

Nailed it.
CW Jul 15, 2019 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by LittleBlueDuneBuggy:
Originally posted by Slye_Fox:
Who?

Some left wing nut job that thinks Open Borders is a good idea.
You forget she needs preferential job treatment too because she is 1/84000 native american.
LittleBlueDuneBuggy Jul 15, 2019 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by CW:
Originally posted by LittleBlueDuneBuggy:

Some left wing nut job that thinks Open Borders is a good idea.
You forget she needs preferential job treatment too because she is 1/84000 native american.

Oh I remember that, lol. That was her!?
The Lich Jul 16, 2019 @ 2:12am 
The setting assumes you are male, because the character you are playing is a male. And people have better things to do than worry about what pronoun you wish people would call you. Leave it to the weirdos to get bothered by pronouns while they are surrounded by starving people, who are dying frost bite and you have to decide if their teetering hope should be brought down one notch lower by having their kids go out and forage for the city too. This is beyond first world problems. This needs a new name. Imaginary World Problems, Happy Place Issues, My Feelings Ville Troubles, Debauchery Town Difficulty, "This is How Rome Fell" City-State Complication, take your pick.
DJ PUNK Jul 16, 2019 @ 5:19am 
this thread is p. good
Originally posted by Crimson Viper:
Happy Place Issues
I think that one is the best for this situation.
why the ♥♥♥♥ is this thread even a thing you're playing as a man that's it who cares, it's the most logical choice for a game that's taking place in a time where almost every person in position of power was a man and where the leader can become the head of a religion or the head of some kind of communist party
SpiffyGonzales Jul 18, 2019 @ 5:12pm 
Woman who are millitary leaders get called sir as well. I dont see the point.
I mean i guess if i was getting called "Ma'am"

Idk, maybe they'll add a "boy or girl" option at the start. Its something small and i suppose it makes sense.
WorldWalker128 Jul 26, 2019 @ 4:45pm 
Well, you're playing as a specific character in this game, which just so happens to be male. I suppose had they said "Ser" instead, which can be used as a rank or in the case of: "Ser London" it means "(you) are from London" which would be fitting enough, I suppose.

As to why it's suddenly NOW bothering you when it never has before, all that means is that SJW culture has finally succeeded in brainwashing you. Happens to alot of people. You're get over it eventually.....or else join their cultural cult and start getting pissy with everyone (especially men if you're also a Feminazi on top of an SJW) that isn't exactly like you and will be easily upset over not getting your way over the most RIDICULOUS of things, kinda like a spoiled-rotten child.

Like I said, you'll probably get over it before it gets that bad. Just be sure to do weekly Sanity Meter checks or it might get worse. (Why does STEAM not have a 'laughing' emoji??)
DJ PUNK Jul 26, 2019 @ 7:27pm 
oh yeah, this thread
Azazel Jul 26, 2019 @ 9:10pm 
Not really. I actually want to feel disassociated when I publicly execute someone or whenever I make the town full of starving people practice cannibalism. Endless on extreme difficulty is not a joke!
Last edited by Azazel; Jul 26, 2019 @ 9:15pm
WISD0MTREE Jul 27, 2019 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by WorldWalker128:
(Why does STEAM not have a 'laughing' emoji??)
No idea, but they have a lot of tree emojis.
:terraria::_tree_::summer2019trees2::summer2019trees::salttree:
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