What a scam

[Guru]

Devs just took the dead tarkov clone they made and are reselling it scummy devs

[TTV_CoveredStorm217]

Honestly my first impression of this game was kind of bad. Cuz games like this are just not for me but after playing it a lot more with my friend who really likes games like this I honestly had so much fun and I hope this game lives on

[SusBedStain]

I PREORDERED worse games in the past (looking at you DUKE NUK'EM FOREVER on xbox). I tried the Deadzone demo this month with a friend, 4 standard victories, 2 challenging victories, 13 failed runs. Barely above 50% success rate, still had lots of fun for a DEMO. What others do with their money should not be your concern. If you have a hyper fixation on internet forums and treat strangers like they are beneath you and must follow your imperative main character syndrome. Things must really be bad in real life to get angry with entertainment media such as video games. Please seek professional help. I certainly did when gaming/anger/stress took over my life. Moderation is key and so should be your emotions. You wont live to see 50 if you keep balding over gaming topics or companies.. that self inflicting stress/anger stacks with your other problems in life.

We appreciate your opinion but do not NEED to apply it. We are adults (mostly) and do whatever we want with our earned money. I do not see myself playing this in 5 months. But the potential of $ per hour spent in total is beyond 100 hours with what I have experienced. Even at a 50$ buy in, thats less than 1$ per hour of entertainment. Thats roughly a month of game time (per 3-4 hour session DAILY before bed/work). By the end of that month, I move on to another game in my library.

[Kitkat]

Originally posted by Yak-Yo!:

Originally posted by Blast Hardcheese:

So you're a bot or just an absolute child right? Yeah what a tough ride it's been. Seeing at least TWO WHOLE VIDEOGAMES come out and fail. Considering Deadzone was F2P and Tribes 3 died before I even had a chance to buy it, I think I'm in the clear bud. Bear your tiny cross elsewhere.

Nobody tell him lmao

Wasnt here for either tribes or The other Deadzone, however developers have had issues with greed in the past and still get ♥♥♥♥ tons of money. take EA and Activision for example, nothing you do as an induvidual will change "shills" and people who enjoy the game and dont care about cost (lookin at you Rust and Bodycam)
If the Devs can push down greed and not turn this into another "bodycam" fiasco, then I am all for this game releasing.
I did some research on these Devs tendencies and to quote a Reddit post(yea ik its Reddit)

"The developers have a lengthy history of putting out Early Access games (Prophecy, Starsiege Raiders, Starsiege Deadzone and now Tribe 3), barely advertising them and discontinuing/abandoning them within 1-6 months release to focus on a new game, and so the circle repeats."
what i take away from this brief explanation is that the team is extremely ambitious in an overall destructive way, they did do a better decision by advertising it this time, but I do think if greed is overly present, it should die until they learn.

Amazing Dev team, sound design needs a bit of work but its a demo so eh.
(yes its a corporate message its a formal message from a dev so it kinda has to be in some regards)

[A Bunny]

Aw, man.

I didn't realize this was Hi-Res. I was reserved but moderately excited to see how this developed. Nevermind.

[Mountain Months]

anything hirez/prophecy is a HARD pass

[EricR]

Originally posted by Doppleganger:

Think Animal and WooHoo2You both raise some pretty fair points. As the developer we shared a response to a similar thread, sharing below since it's probably helpful here too:

"""
It's true that both TRIBES and Starsiege Deadzone struggled in the past, we wanted both games to succeed but unfortunately just couldn't retain enough players to keep supporting them at the level players want and keep the studio running financially. Multiplayer games are just really hard to make work, especially right now.

That is exactly why Deadzone Rogue will be a single player game (ideally with co-op as well) that has an up front cost to buy it. It will not be a free to play game where skins are the main thing being sold. We've also announced in the past that the full game of Deadzone: Rogue will be available for free to all players who made any paid purchase in Starsiege: Deadzone through Steam.

The demo for Deadzone Rogue will also stay free so players can try for themselves to see what the game is like. The game is not designed to have tons of live service updates (unless it's a total rocket), and it won't have major server costs to keep it running.

I'd also say, you can always give the demo a shot and see if you like it or not. If you play the game, it's pretty clear it's not a Tarkov clone. It's definitely set in the same world as Starsiege Deadzone, with a similar combat feel and aesthetic, but with a lot more rogue lite elements and PvE focus. We've been pretty up front about all that from the start, and think it makes sense to focus on what players liked in the past, but put a twist to make it fresh.

All the best, and sorry you had a bad experience with our past games. We're trying to do our best with this one to deliver a great experience, and unlike multiplayer queue times and match balancing are not an issue, so that should be a lot less dependent on how many people are online than in past games where that became a major challenge.
"""

Like this studio is used to do... you're manipulating the information right there.

The "Tarkov clone" is simple... anyone that plays Starsiege: Deadzone knows what he means, and should you.
Starsiege: Deadzone was an EXTRACTION SHOOTER, at least when I played it the first time before the devs changes it to a Battle Royale in a matter of a week or 2.

There was no issue with the game neither.. it's all the devs and the CEO that killed the game to stop the supporters to cry and non-stop claiming to have been scammed and wanted MASSIVELY being refunded.
The CEO Erez already said in the Discord chat that he was only interested into the Numbers. Main reason the game struggled so so bad.

Instead, they recycled Deadzone into ROGUE. Making it FREE FOR Deadzone's supporters to slightly accommodate them for having been scammed with Deadzone...
Otherwise it wouldn't be free for them if they had not been scammed... still they are scammed cause this game is so far from what Deadzone was and could have been.

Edit:

Originally posted by A Bunny:

Aw, man.

I didn't realize this was Hi-Res. I was reserved but moderately excited to see how this developed. Nevermind.

Originally posted by Mountain Months:

anything hirez/prophecy is a HARD pass

This isn't a "real" name...
Better use the real one, so he can't change it as easily.
Erez Goren

[WooHoo2You]

Originally posted by EricR:

Like this studio is used to do... you're manipulating the information right there.

The "Tarkov clone" is simple... anyone that plays Starsiege: Deadzone knows what he means, and should you.
Starsiege: Deadzone was an EXTRACTION SHOOTER, at least when I played it the first time before the devs changes it to a Battle Royale in a matter of a week or 2.

There was no issue with the game neither.. it's all the devs and the CEO that killed the game to stop the supporters to cry and non-stop claiming to have been scammed and wanted MASSIVELY being refunded.
The CEO Erez already said in the Discord chat that he was only interested into the Numbers. Main reason the game struggled so so bad.

Instead, they recycled Deadzone into ROGUE. Making it FREE FOR Deadzone's supporters to slightly accommodate them for having been scammed with Deadzone...
Otherwise it wouldn't be free for them if they had not been scammed... still they are scammed cause this game is so far from what Deadzone was and could have been.

Edit:

Don't buy Early Access games if you don't want to get "scammed." There is a huge disclaimer on every Early Access game on Steam for that exact reason....Because a vast majority of them never see v1.0 release. They are at best a gamble. Especially with any game that requires a large active user base... Double Gamble.

It's not rocket science and all the warning labels were literally there. You just chose to ignore them and 'invest' in an unhatched egg anyway....

Since so many missed it, from the top of Starsiege Deadzone Steam page "Note: Games in Early Access are not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development."

[EricR]

Originally posted by WooHoo2You:

Originally posted by EricR:

Like this studio is used to do... you're manipulating the information right there.

The "Tarkov clone" is simple... anyone that plays Starsiege: Deadzone knows what he means, and should you.
Starsiege: Deadzone was an EXTRACTION SHOOTER, at least when I played it the first time before the devs changes it to a Battle Royale in a matter of a week or 2.

There was no issue with the game neither.. it's all the devs and the CEO that killed the game to stop the supporters to cry and non-stop claiming to have been scammed and wanted MASSIVELY being refunded.
The CEO Erez already said in the Discord chat that he was only interested into the Numbers. Main reason the game struggled so so bad.

Instead, they recycled Deadzone into ROGUE. Making it FREE FOR Deadzone's supporters to slightly accommodate them for having been scammed with Deadzone...
Otherwise it wouldn't be free for them if they had not been scammed... still they are scammed cause this game is so far from what Deadzone was and could have been.

Edit:

Don't buy Early Access games if you don't want to get "scammed." There is a huge disclaimer on every Early Access game on Steam for that exact reason....Because a vast majority of them never see v1.0 release. They are at best a gamble. Especially with any game that requires a large active user base... Double Gamble.

It's not rocket science and all the warning labels were literally there. You just chose to ignore them and 'invest' in an unhatched egg anyway....

Since so many missed it, from the top of Starsiege Deadzone Steam page "Note: Games in Early Access are not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development."

Are you a lawyer ? Trying to defend them ? Do you know what they even did with Deadzone ? Let me answer for you...
No Yes No

[WooHoo2You]

Originally posted by EricR:

Originally posted by WooHoo2You:

Don't buy Early Access games if you don't want to get "scammed." There is a huge disclaimer on every Early Access game on Steam for that exact reason....Because a vast majority of them never see v1.0 release. They are at best a gamble. Especially with any game that requires a large active user base... Double Gamble.

It's not rocket science and all the warning labels were literally there. You just chose to ignore them and 'invest' in an unhatched egg anyway....

Since so many missed it, from the top of Starsiege Deadzone Steam page "Note: Games in Early Access are not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development."

Are you a lawyer ? Trying to defend them ? Do you know what they even did with Deadzone ? Let me answer for you...
No Yes No

Am I a lawyer? No.

Did I claim to be a lawyer? No

Can I read and comprehend simple English as ever so plainly laid out in the early access warning label? Yes.

Does that ability require one be a lawyer? No.

Do I know what they even did with Deadzone? Yes....they stopped development and support of an early access game which by its online only nature was a huge risk even if it was sold as a full v1.0 game.

And no, I'm not defending anyone, I am simply pointing out that you made a bad bet, a bet turned out poorly, and only you are to blame. This demo is FREE and NOT a scam.

I too have bought E.A. games that shut down, never updated further, ones that changed so drastically it might not even be considered the same game, and even titles that took several American presidential terms to make it to v1.00 status.

Did I cry? Did I scream? Did I blame anyone but myself?

Let me answer for you....
No No No

....kids these days ;)

[indirect]

Originally posted by Guru:

Devs just took the dead tarkov clone they made and are reselling it scummy devs

... what?

[Legion]

Ah, yes, Tarkov, The "original" extractor game.

[WooHoo2You]

Originally posted by Con(troll) Artist:

Ah, yes, Tarkov, The "original" extractor game.

Reminds me of this youtube video I saw the other day (basically) claiming Daniel Tosh invented the TV clip show and all other clip shows were shameless copies of Tosh.0.

I don't even think America's Funniest Home Videos was the OG clip show and that predated Tosh.0 by decades.

Claiming Starsiege is "Tarkov clone" is just as poorly thought out of an argument. Heck, not sure we can name a single game in 2025 that isn't somehow a derivative of something else.

[0 viewers streamer at TTV]

last two kids are coping crazy.

[Legion]

Originally posted by 0 viewers streamer at TTV:

last two kids are coping crazy.

You could say that if you lacked the education to know what words mean.

[WooHoo2You]

Originally posted by 0 viewers streamer at TTV:

last two kids are coping crazy.

Coping for what? Seriously, we aren't the ones complaining or screaming about something that happened years ago on a completely different game in the comments section of a demo for a game that isn't even for sale. That's a "coping" mechanism.

I guess that is cheaper than therapy or prescriptions.....tell us, is it working for ya?