Dragonfly drops are really disappointing and terrible.

[OmarTheInsomniac]

I just managed to kill dragonfly for the first time ever yesterday (I play solo) and considering how difficult and challenging this fight is I was expecting to receive alot of really good resources/armor or great item blueprints only to recieve ONE scale, a few gems and a useless larvae egg. That's it? That's seriously ALL I get for all the many resources, time and effort I spent into preparing for the fight so I can actually be able to beat dragonfly in the first place, only to get barely anything useful? I already had the scale furnace blueprint from klaus and it's a pretty mediocre, if not useless, structure as it's literally nothing more than a slightly better firepit. A single scale is barely enough to make ONE scaled chest OR scale armor. If I wanted to make 4 scaled chests or scale armor, I would have to kill it FOUR SEPERATE TIMES so I can get enough. That is embarrassingly low. The number of gems you get for killing it is also laughably low. I got more gems literally from just pulling up 2 sunken chests in the ocean. That just leaves the larvae egg, which, outside of using it to get the dragonfly broodling pet, is completely useless for anything actually practical or helpful. What's the point? As it stands, these drops are simply not enough of a reward to compensate for the frankly stupid amount of resources and effort required to kill dragonfly. They either need to improve its drops significantly or make it significantly weaker.

Edit: Boy this thread of me venting over dragonfly sure spiralled out control, didn't it? I'll admit i was a bit angry when i made this post and just wanted to vent so i didn't exactly start this thread in a positive spirit but i never expected it would spiral into something this nasty and toxic. I guess that's just how the internet is sometimes. Also did those 2 people who were arguing really get banned from the forum? It says so next to their name. Either way i feel bad about how this thread turned out. I wish i didn't make it now.

[6teaNEIN?]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

A cheese strategy doesn't necessarily equals "not intended" those would be exploits.
Don't confuse the two.

it is you that is confused.

so, to you, panflute is cheese? lmao that is hilariously stupid. I suppose then, you also consider ice staff in crab king fight as cheese? or nightmare amulet in fuelweaver? you really have no clue what cheese is.

Originally posted by Alucard †:

You should ask yourself that question since you need the Panflute to beat her ;) and you are extremely hesitant and defensive when asked try to do it without.

you assume that I need it, and ignore where I said otherwise. you continue to put words in my mouth, and then try to present them as a counterpoint. it really is pitiful, and I'm sorry that you have no leg to stand on.

Originally posted by Alucard †:

You insult me yet here you are despite all my explanation still clinging to your argument that Dragonfly is the "easiest" when there are several raid bosses that are much easier and don't require much "working smart" or using panflute.

it's not my fault you find dragonfly hard. git gud

you are literally the only one in this thread (besides OP, who is still "new") claiming that she is hard.

as I said, you are nothing more than a contrarian. hope you got the attention you wanted, I'm done now. there is no point debating anything with someone who doesn't even know what cheese really is, let alone all of your other fallacies

[Alucard †]

Good that you're done you have nothing constructive to contribute except insults and "no u" trolling.

You just can't admit you were wrong about Dragonfly being the "easiest" of all raid bosses and ignoring everything i say about other raid bosses being much easier than Dragonfly with or without panflute.

Heck even Rando admitted that Twins are easier than Dragonfly..

Originally posted by Pʂყƈԋσ Pυϝϝʂ:

it's not my fault you find dragonfly hard. git gud

You're the one who can't fight bosses without Panflute and think Klaus , Twins and Ancient Guardian are harder than Dragonfly

Originally posted by Pʂყƈԋσ Pυϝϝʂ:

Originally posted by Alucard †:

A cheese strategy doesn't necessarily equals "not intended" those would be exploits.
Don't confuse the two.

it is you that is confused.

so, to you, panflute is cheese? lmao that is hilariously stupid. I suppose then, you also consider ice staff in crab king fight as cheese? or nightmare amulet in fuelweaver? you really have no clue what cheese is.

Yes Panflute is.

Cheese in gaming is strategy that gives you maximum advantage over challenge (or lets you skip it altogether) and requires minimal skill or effort from the player.

It doesn't automatically mean exploits or cheats but also using ingame mechanics, skills or items that are unbalanced..

Panflute falls into this category. As it trivializes Dragonfly and several other bosses. It de-enrages Dragonfly , separates the Twins (wich are still easier to fight without panflute than Dfly) , "deactivates" Bee Queens minions.

It's an OP item that is used to cheese several bosses that are highly susceptible to it.
Do you need it written in crayon to understand? Geez..

[6teaNEIN?]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Good that you're done you have nothing constructive to contribute except insults and "no u" trolling.

You just can't admit you were wrong about Dragonfly being the "easiest" of all raid bosses and ignoring everything i say about other raid bosses being much easier than Dragonfly with or without panflute.

Heck even Rando admitted that Twins are easier than Dragonfly..

Originally posted by Pʂყƈԋσ Pυϝϝʂ:

it's not my fault you find dragonfly hard. git gud

You're the one who can't fight bosses without Panflute and think Klaus , Twins and Ancient Guardian are harder than Dragonfly :awkward:

Originally posted by Pʂყƈԋσ Pυϝϝʂ:

it is you that is confused.

so, to you, panflute is cheese? lmao that is hilariously stupid. I suppose then, you also consider ice staff in crab king fight as cheese? or nightmare amulet in fuelweaver? you really have no clue what cheese is.

Yes Panflute is.

Cheese in gaming is strategy that gives you maximum advantage over challenge (or lets you skip it altogether) and requires minimal skill or effort from the player.

It doesn't automatically mean exploits or cheats but also using ingame mechanics, skills or items that are unbalanced..

Panflute falls into this category. As it trivializes Dragonfly and several other bosses. It de-enrages Dragonfly , separates the Twins (wich are still easier to fight without panflute than Dfly) , "deactivates" Bee Queens minions.

It's an OP item that is used to cheese several bosses that are highly susceptible to it.
Do you need it written in crayon to understand? Geez..

wow, this level of delusion is kinda scary

[Niwoh]

Ok most of this dumb argument is subjective to a degree, but how in the F is "cheeseless" bee queen ever easier than "cheeseless" dfly?
Anyways, no reason not to use the pan flute, especially if you can kill klaus already anyways, then they're infinite even if you don't deconstruct (but why wouldn't you?).

[OmarTheInsomniac]

Originally posted by Failzz:

Ok most of this dumb argument is subjective to a degree, but how in the F is "cheeseless" bee queen ever easier than "cheeseless" dfly?
Anyways, no reason not to use the pan flute, especially if you can kill klaus already anyways, then they're infinite even if you don't deconstruct (but why wouldn't you?).

My actual complaint and point i was making in my post wasn't even about dragonfly's difficulty or if it's harder than other raid bosses, it was about the rewards you get relative to the difficulty and resource/time cost of killing dragonfly. Bee queen certainly could be harder, but it's drops are still very good relative to the difficulty if not great. You get 7 royal jelly, which will allow you to make 21 jelly beans, one of the best healing items in the game and one that can potentially be very powerful in combat situations against bosses, especially if used with certain character combinations such as woodie's weremoose, which becomes effectively invincible due to his high damage reduction and preexisting passive health regeneration. The blueprint for bundling wrap, one of the best items in the game as it not only can potentially increase your inventory space and amount of items you can carry significantly, but it completely stops food from rotting, thus making it that food can last forever. An incredible ability to say the least. Finally you get the bee queen crown which is not only a good armor on it's own, but has a unique ability which makes going insane impossible and thus makes fights against bosses with high amounts of health and/or high insanity auras much easier. And should you find it useless, you could simply deconstruct it for even more royal jelly. Compare that to the rewards from dragonfly, a boss with a higher amount of health, significantly more dmg output and the ability to spawn enemies as well. Doesn't take a genius to see the disparity between the difficulty and the drops, especially when compared to other bosses of a similar nature like bee queen.

[Salsasouls]

Originally posted by - EMPTY -:

Lack of what matters is the journey not the income issue

the journey sucks tho lol

[Salsasouls]

gotta agree, bosses shouldnt have to be cheesed to be worth the resource cost

[OmarTheInsomniac]

Originally posted by Salsasouls:

Originally posted by - EMPTY -:

Lack of what matters is the journey not the income issue

the journey sucks tho lol

Literally said the exact same thing too lol.

[OmarTheInsomniac]

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[corsariumnes]

I do agree that compared to other bosses, DF has an average difficulty/reward ratio. To my eyes the gems and the furnace are the most notable things it gives, I really wish the scaled armor would be worth the scales though

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by corsariumnes:

I do agree that compared to other bosses, DF has an average difficulty/reward ratio. To my eyes the gems and the furnace are the most notable things it gives, I really wish the scaled armor would be worth the scales though

The armor is good, dupe the scales.

[Fern]

ok but have you seen toadstool's drops though?

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by POND BONKER:

ok but have you seen toadstool's drops though?

You mean the best looking hats in the game? He has great drops.

[UNBREAKABLE]

dragonfly is like toddler toys compared to other bosses

[Edgelie]

I say its most helpful for ruins and the ruins themselves make the scales easily obtainable also making the panflute reusable-ish by deconstructing it then remaking it to regain durability and I just used a panflute, wall & beefalo and a bunch of blue caps to beat it so try beefalo & change your life forever - beefalo association member