Wormwood

[tools guy-kun]

What makes them so great at farming?

I’m looking at videos and posts and all this stuff, and the only advantages I can see them have that makes Wormwood different is the fact that he can bloom which auto talks to all plants when walking by, plant directly into the ground (Wild crops) and see what a plant really needs to be happy.

Any player can put on a one man band to make all plants happy easily

Anyone can use a garden hat to talk to plants, although it does require exploring the ruins first which I understand why Wormwood is advantageous in this regard

Wild crops don’t seem to grow into large crops, so they’d still need to use dug up farmland.

I think I’m missing something to Wormwood. What makes them the best farmer out of everyone else? It seems like whatever Wormwood can do, everyone else can do but Wormwood is just a little bit better.

[Echsrick]

wormwood does not need a hoe to plant seeds into the farmland, he alsol talks faster to plants and does not need gardeener hat to examine the plants better of there needs, one man band alsol takes a while to even make then starting blooming

[tools guy-kun]

Originally posted by Dr.Medic (Echsrick):

wormwood does not need a hoe to plant seeds into the farmland, he alsol talks faster to plants and does not need gardeener hat to examine the plants better of there needs, one man band alsol takes a while to even make then starting blooming

but he doesn't have any underlying boosts to their crop output or crop growth speed, does he?

I'm asking these questions to better understand the character since I'm just now starting a playthrough with him for the first time. knowledge is power.

[Echsrick]

no of course he dont make plants magicaly grow faster, and you still got to keep the plants happy for them to bring more result

[duck]

Wormwood's farming capabilities generally just make them better at farming than a survivor with no setup. people thinks this makes them better than everyone else at farming, but it actually just makes farming easier.

Originally posted by tools guy-kun:

Originally posted by Dr.Medic (Echsrick):

wormwood does not need a hoe to plant seeds into the farmland, he also talks faster to plants and does not need gardeener hat to examine the plants better of there needs, one man band also takes a while to even make then starting blooming

but he doesn't have any underlying boosts to their crop output or crop growth speed, does he?

I'm asking these questions to better understand the character since I'm just now starting a play through with him for the first time. knowledge is power.

No wormwood sadly doesn't have any underlying boosts to crop output or growth speed :(

tips for your play-through: try to start magic early for easy darkswords due to wormwoods living logs (chop some trees to get the fuel), you can dig up then replant a sapling for +5 sanity each time, and make sure to set up a bramble trap field as soon as you have time, and bramble husks are an amazing armor and utility item (make sure to use them when picking cactus or running in your bramble field, try to get a ton of bee boxes because honey poultices are your best friend.

I hope you find wormwood as fun as i do! :)

[tools guy-kun]

Originally posted by Dr.Medic (Echsrick):

no of course he dont make plants magicaly grow faster, and you still got to keep the plants happy for them to bring more result

well if you consider the fact he can rub poop on himself to regain health, make a formula that can enhance his speed and other attributes for a limited time, and even make living logs infinitely as long as they have the health to cover it, I hope you can forgive me for thinking they could "magically" grow crops faster since everything I listed here seems a little bit like magic, if you ask me.

thank you for your help.

Originally posted by DownloadADuck:

Wormwood's farming capabilities generally just make them better at farming than a survivor with no setup. people thinks this makes them better than everyone else at farming, but it actually just makes farming easier.

yeah, that's kind of the vibe I'm getting. I picked them up in hopes they would simply be the best farmer, but I'm not noticing anything all that special about them that makes farming better enough to truly pick them up for the sake of farming.

I know he has his special crafts and bloom state and all, don't get me wrong all of such is fantastic. personally, I love farming in games where it feels fun to do so while being truly beneficial for everyone involved, which is why I have mixed emotions at best of Worm's farming capabilities.

they definitely make it noticeably easier, but if I can pull off similar results as someone else who might have an easier time with other aspects in general, such as fighting and exploration, then I feel like my purpose is somewhat dampened. but that won't stop me from trying out the character and their crafts!

Originally posted by DownloadADuck:

tips for your play-through: try to start magic early for easy darkswords due to wormwoods living logs (chop some trees to get the fuel), you can dig up then replant a sapling for +5 sanity each time, and make sure to set up a bramble trap field as soon as you have time, and bramble husks are an amazing armor and utility item (make sure to use them when picking cactus or running in your bramble field, try to get a ton of bee boxes because honey poultices are your best friend.

I hope you find wormwood as fun as i do! :)

when you say chop trees for fuel, you mean go insane and kill the creepy crawlies that try to touch your butt right? unless there's another purpose you're referring to, then I'd like to know.

I am definitely in the process of finding bee hives and spider dens for silk. definitely gonna get that set up when I can. thank you for the bonus tips, friend. ^^

[duck]

Originally posted by DownloadADuck:

tips for your play-through: try to start magic early for easy darkswords due to wormwoods living logs (chop some trees to get the fuel), you can dig up then replant a sapling for +5 sanity each time, and make sure to set up a bramble trap field as soon as you have time, and bramble husks are an amazing armor and utility item (make sure to use them when picking cactus or running in your bramble field, try to get a ton of bee boxes because honey poultices are your best friend.

I hope you find wormwood as fun as i do! :)

when you say chop trees for fuel, you mean go insane and kill the creepy crawlies that try to touch your butt right? unless there's another purpose you're referring to, then I'd like to know.

Yes i do mean kill the creepy crawlies

Originally posted by bob644016:

I dont really see a good reason to play wormwood. Some nice armor, easier farming, easier living logs, and a 25% speed boost once in a while in exchange for having to either needing a wortox or collect manure, rot, and nitre to heal? I dont find it a good trade-off.
The bramble husk is nice, but the bramble trap isnt as good imo.
The living logs, while convenient sometimes, arent that hard to get. Once i got 3 treeguards before day 10 (as maxwell, and igot at least 240 logs).
The farming is fine i guess, but as wormwood, you benefit the least from it, as you get no healing from them, unless you for some reason decide to rot the crops.
And the 25% speed boost, while sometimes convenient, is mostly just random, as you get it by fertilizing, and you usually just fertilize for health, not for the speed.
And the health isnt even that good. Unless you make the compost wrap, the other fertilizer only gives 2-4 health (although compost may do more as i havent played wormwood much). Some of these opinions may just be because i have only played wormwood 3 times, but that time has led me to believe wormwood is not that good of a character.

I enjoy playing wormwood mostly because i dont really have to do anything but get bee boxes for living logs, and the super easy sanity management. honey poultices are your best friend when playing wormwood, you probably shoudnt go out of your way to get manure or rot (though rot tends to accumulate over time in a world so its kinda just free heals when traveling) and wormwood's gain from farming, while worse than other survivors, is not the most prominent part of the character, even though most make it out to be.

[tools guy-kun]

Originally posted by bob644016:

I dont really see a good reason to play wormwood. Some nice armor, easier farming, easier living logs, and a 25% speed boost once in a while in exchange for having to either needing a wortox or collect manure, rot, and nitre to heal? I dont find it a good trade-off.
The bramble husk is nice, but the bramble trap isnt as good imo.
The living logs, while convenient sometimes, arent that hard to get. Once i got 3 treeguards before day 10 (as maxwell, and igot at least 240 logs).
The farming is fine i guess, but as wormwood, you benefit the least from it, as you get no healing from them, unless you for some reason decide to rot the crops.
And the 25% speed boost, while sometimes convenient, is mostly just random, as you get it by fertilizing, and you usually just fertilize for health, not for the speed.
And the health isnt even that good. Unless you make the compost wrap, the other fertilizer only gives 2-4 health (although compost may do more as i havent played wormwood much). Some of these opinions may just be because i have only played wormwood 3 times, but that time has led me to believe wormwood is not that good of a character.

in this game, it's not about playing the best character. while your points about wormwood may be valid in some cases, it doesn't take away the beauty of simply playing the character you actually enjoy playing, and some people really dig wormwood's style.

and about the tree guards, not everyone is that lucky, nor is that type of luck common unless you're spending a good majority of your days chopping down forests, which is extremely easy to do as Maxwell right now.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Most of the time spent farming is doing the very long hoe animation then the somewhat lengthy plant animation. Wormwood instead has a single fast plant animation that skips both of those.

He also automatically tends to plants, has plants live for longer when he plants them, and can plant without farmland which is incredibly powerful.

[Thomas Devlin]

He's not objectively better at farming than any other character, it's just that his abilities make it a bit more convenient. Any character can use shell bells to mimic blooming Wormwood, but sometimes those can be a bit of a hassle, so if you'd rather have it built into your character than Wormwood is handy for that. And being able to place seeds directly into farmland doesn't make them grow any better, but it does save a lot of time

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Thomas Devlin:

He's not objectively better at farming than any other character, it's just that his abilities make it a bit more convenient. Any character can use shell bells to mimic blooming Wormwood, but sometimes those can be a bit of a hassle, so if you'd rather have it built into your character than Wormwood is handy for that. And being able to place seeds directly into farmland doesn't make them grow any better, but it does save a lot of time

Are Maxwell and Woodie not any better at chopping down trees than the rest of the roster because, while they do it way faster, they don't actually give you more logs per tree?

[tools guy-kun]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by Thomas Devlin:

He's not objectively better at farming than any other character, it's just that his abilities make it a bit more convenient. Any character can use shell bells to mimic blooming Wormwood, but sometimes those can be a bit of a hassle, so if you'd rather have it built into your character than Wormwood is handy for that. And being able to place seeds directly into farmland doesn't make them grow any better, but it does save a lot of time

Are Maxwell and Woodie not any better at chopping down trees than the rest of the roster because, while they do it way faster, they don't actually give you more logs per tree?

explain how your point makes sense here, just so I can see where you're coming from.

because it sort of looks out of place right now with what they said.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by tools guy-kun:

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Are Maxwell and Woodie not any better at chopping down trees than the rest of the roster because, while they do it way faster, they don't actually give you more logs per tree?

explain how your point makes sense here, just so I can see where you're coming from.

because it sort of looks out of place right now with what they said.

They said that Wormwood being by far the fastest farmer doesn't make him better at farming because he "doesn't grow any better", only "sav[ing] a lot of time"..?

[tools guy-kun]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by tools guy-kun:

explain how your point makes sense here, just so I can see where you're coming from.

because it sort of looks out of place right now with what they said.

They said that Wormwood being by far the fastest farmer doesn't make him better at farming because he "doesn't grow any better", only "sav[ing] a lot of time"..?

I re-read it a few times, I think I get the gist now.

I was just trying to look for the exact words you felt they said and couldn't find them, hence why it took me a bit.

I think they were focusing on the yield that comes out of the harvests rather than the entirety of the process. while the harvest being the same can somewhat dampen the credibility of one's services, saving time is exceptionally crucial, especially in a game like this, so yeah if anyone can get the job done much faster than anyone else, I'd still consider them better at said job.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by tools guy-kun:

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

They said that Wormwood being by far the fastest farmer doesn't make him better at farming because he "doesn't grow any better", only "sav[ing] a lot of time"..?

I re-read it a few times, I think I get the gist now.

I was just trying to look for the exact words you felt they said and couldn't find them, hence why it took me a bit.

I think they were focusing on the yield that comes out of the harvests rather than the entirety of the process. while the harvest being the same can somewhat dampen the credibility of one's services, saving time is exceptionally crucial, especially in a game like this, so yeah if anyone can get the job done much faster than anyone else, I'd still consider them better at said job.

They are focusing on the yields, but that's a silly thing because not one character affects yields for anything in the entire game. The closest there is to a character affecting yields is Wormwood being able to plant outside of tilled farmland, since that allows you to get more crops at a time than you otherwise would be able to. But you're not getting any more crops from each seed, just able to plant way more seeds.