Please, klei. Don't Do this. (NOT LIGHTHEARTED, Maybe 18+)

[Abbakadaba!]

i have loved klei from first sight. the company was creative, didn't do anything shady, and had fun games. but it's all over, as they sold 80% of their company to Tencent. if you don't understand why it's bad, watch this:
https://youtu.be/QK6o-8dtvJI There.
Basically, they sold their company to people who kill the minority of people. this is not ok klei, and its starting to get bad. i have almost instantly thought of never playing again, witch is the worst idea of my life. the company was all good until they supported a company that copied games, supported killing the minority, and not to mention, bought out the majority of games. klei, i just want to let you know, you are basically selling 80% of your company to EA. this is horrible and we must stop it and make our voices heard. Please, if you are reading this, Copy and paste this over the forums, this can not happen or klei will possibly get canceled. another thing with this is that the Terms of Service of games is being violated, klei is also selling out many emails, and this cannot happen. PLEASE. i am asking you. don't play klei games, keep copy and pasting, and don't let this slide. We MUST have our voices heard. i know other companies, like steam, and many more buy out games, but still. it is not worth it to have klei sell 80% of their company to Tencent. who owns many other games, and supports killing the minority. i know this may not be warm and cudly, but we MUST make our voices heard. please, steam players, devs, dst fanatics, Stop playing. this is not ok. while kleis game is going to get ruined, we must at least make a little bit of pervention.
There is even downsides for people who won't give the game up, even after this.
Game servers and IP's may be shut down.
updates may be slowed.
Privacy might be impossible
The game may live longer, but it all may go to chaos.
People being killed is not ok in the slightest.
i encourage you all to copy and paste, stop playing the game, and don't do it. give a bad review, it may be a good game, but what tencent is doing is inexcusable. the worse rating we give it, the less people will buy the game. go onto servers and spread the word. grief servers that don't listen. i don't care if i go overboard, but this shouldn't last. klei, i am asking you. don't do this. i know i may get reported for doing this, but if you are about to do that, don't. this game is getting corrupted and we cant let that happen.
i say we copy and paste, give bad reviews about tencent, grief servers to send a message, and stop this. if you still want to play, for some reason, i encourage you all to make a dedicated server to describe it.

[Visualvengeance]

I played this game and loved it, but this is not cool, this is a slap on the face to everyone supporting Klei. I 100% agree with this thread/video, alternatives are the key. I heard stardew valley and terraria are quite good games and not owned by Winnie the Pooh.

[Abbakadaba!]

yeah, i 100% agree with you. im going to make a group for this crap

[Silent Guy]

Yeah it hurts a lot, but there are many other indie studios with great games, i just get interested in factorio since is mainly about building and expand your base

[Visualvengeance]

Little wood seems like a neat game too and ahh yes factorio classic indie tittle.

It hurts to look for alternatives for a game I've been enjoying for a long time, but honestly it's a small price to pay to say no to Winnie the Pooh and his dicktatorship.

[Abbakadaba!]

do any of you guys play terraria i want to start a new playthrough since dst is no more, and i just want to put dst behind me.

[KirubyPitocatto]

You could play offline, there is no need to stop playing, you would need to stop playing with the DLC characters tho

[Ozzey_Lee]

One of the comments on the video discussing with the uploader makes a great point similar to the one I made. In short supporting KLEI is doing significantly less harm then say paying taxes or having a facebook account.

If you give KLEI $20 how much could really be paid to Tencent so that the deal would be worthwhile for KLEI?

The point is you are barely supporting Tencent in this deal so removing your support just to say you did something is almost like walking in your home covered in mud but taking off your shoes. Just like the rest of us you are covered in mud and unless you stop paying taxes, buying from any corporation that buys from China, Don't buy pretty much anything at Walmart or any other store...

To put it simple all you are all doing is making a big deal out of the smallest source of the problem.

[Visualvengeance]

Originally posted by Ozzey_Lee:

One of the comments on the video discussing with the uploader makes a great point similar to the one I made. In short supporting KLEI is doing significantly less harm then say paying taxes or having a facebook account.

If you give KLEI $20 how much could really be paid to Tencent so that the deal would be worthwhile for KLEI?

The point is you are barely supporting Tencent in this deal so removing your support just to say you did something is almost like walking in your home covered in mud but taking off your shoes. Just like the rest of us you are covered in mud and unless you stop paying taxes, buying from any corporation that buys from China, Don't buy pretty much anything at Walmart or any other store...

To put it simple all you are all doing is making a big deal out of the smallest source of the problem.

Your analogy is flawed, when you buy something from Walmart or anywhere else really, cause yes I do realize a lot of things get shipped from there, especially tech you're not actively supporting the cpp cause in most cases the things you buy from Walmart can't really collect your data and spy on you and cause you harm. Cause yes, tencent is known for pushing out malware to its users via the third party companies they own.

[Ozzey_Lee]

Originally posted by Visualvengeance:

Originally posted by Ozzey_Lee:

One of the comments on the video discussing with the uploader makes a great point similar to the one I made. In short supporting KLEI is doing significantly less harm then say paying taxes or having a facebook account.

If you give KLEI $20 how much could really be paid to Tencent so that the deal would be worthwhile for KLEI?

The point is you are barely supporting Tencent in this deal so removing your support just to say you did something is almost like walking in your home covered in mud but taking off your shoes. Just like the rest of us you are covered in mud and unless you stop paying taxes, buying from any corporation that buys from China, Don't buy pretty much anything at Walmart or any other store...

To put it simple all you are all doing is making a big deal out of the smallest source of the problem.

Your analogy is flawed, when you buy something from Walmart or anywhere else really, cause yes I do realize a lot of things get shipped from there, especially tech you're not actively supporting the cpp cause in most cases the things you buy from Walmart can't really collect your data and spy on you and cause you harm. Cause yes, tencent is known for pushing out malware to its users via the third party companies they own.

Not actively supporting but yes you are sending money that way. Is it the money that is the problem or the information? In the case of information that best bet would be to run the game through software to check, or trust that steam wouldn't allow a game to host on it's servers with the ability to do that. Most games that have stuff like that in it if not all have to use a third party site such as Ubisoft games who make you download the game from them.

So far we don't download KLEI games from KLEI servers but steam servers so no spyware would be in it.

In case of money most of the money for supporting KLEI goes to them and instead of tackling this issue a much more effective solution is to prevent other governments from sending money to them which likely wont happen.

As long as your government is sending China money you are pretty much forced to support it and choosing to use the money you would support KLEI with to instead send it to another company and have that company use your money to support China is no better, not to mention the taxes for the transaction going to China too.

There's no way to not support the money moving there unless you don't buy anything which is pretty much what everyone wants to do to KLEI now but this time on a country wide scale. It's just not practical to boycott a country in the same way it is to boycott a company.

[Echsrick]

bla bla bla boycot klei bla bla bla humans overreacting again bla bla bla players will hurt it more if they are goiin to be stupid like this and not klei or tencent or LITERALY ANY DEV its the player here that will destroy the game if they dont stop doin nonsense here and bla bla bla tell me im wrong and i souport what ever nonse like spywhare and what not like welcome to the internet if your that new to not know about that then its no sourprise for me for humans overreacting again

[Vyuri]

I agree.

[Visualvengeance]

Originally posted by Ozzey_Lee:

Originally posted by Visualvengeance:

Your analogy is flawed, when you buy something from Walmart or anywhere else really, cause yes I do realize a lot of things get shipped from there, especially tech you're not actively supporting the cpp cause in most cases the things you buy from Walmart can't really collect your data and spy on you and cause you harm. Cause yes, tencent is known for pushing out malware to its users via the third party companies they own.

Not actively supporting but yes you are sending money that way. Is it the money that is the problem or the information? In the case of information that best bet would be to run the game through software to check, or trust that steam wouldn't allow a game to host on it's servers with the ability to do that. Most games that have stuff like that in it if not all have to use a third party site such as Ubisoft games who make you download the game from them.

So far we don't download KLEI games from KLEI servers but steam servers so no spyware would be in it.

In case of money most of the money for supporting KLEI goes to them and instead of tackling this issue a much more effective solution is to prevent other governments from sending money to them which likely wont happen.

As long as your government is sending China money you are pretty much forced to support it and choosing to use the money you would support KLEI with to instead send it to another company and have that company use your money to support China is no better, not to mention the taxes for the transaction going to China too.

There's no way to not support the money moving there unless you don't buy anything which is pretty much what everyone wants to do to KLEI now but this time on a country wide scale. It's just not practical to boycott a country in the same way it is to boycott a company.

Run the game trough software to check for what exactly? If you have such magical software then governments around the world would bag you for its sauce, but things are not that simple now are they?

Steam doesn't care, Valve let's you put any executable on their store at this point. So if you rely on Valve to come in and check things you're mistaken my friend. Given the fact if and that's a big if tencent decudes to keep klei's catalog on steam, for all we know in an year or two from now all of their games might become epic store exclusive, it has happened in the past to other devs and it will sure happen again and at that point all you said about magic software will become even more irrelevant, if it's not irrelevant enough at this point.

You and I can't do anything with and how our governments spend our money and I think that topic falls out from the scale of this conversation, I decide to not support a company like tencent with not even ten cents, pun intended and thus I decided to never support Klei again.

[Visualvengeance]

Originally posted by Dr.Medic:

bla bla bla boycot klei bla bla bla humans overreacting again bla bla bla players will hurt it more if they are goiin to be stupid like this and not klei or tencent or LITERALY ANY DEV its the player here that will destroy the game if they dont stop doin nonsense here and bla bla bla tell me im wrong and i souport what ever nonse like spywhare and what not like welcome to the internet if your that new to not know about that then its no sourprise for me for humans overreacting again

Ok boomer

[Ozzey_Lee]

@Visualvengeance

There are hundreds of free programs to deal with Malware and the market is ever growing, the best free program I found was Malware bytes and that was within minutes of reading your reply. There are likely hundreds of paid programs that will do even better because they want your money and support. It is in fact that easy. There's even a site you can run links through to detect if the site has anything up with it.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ I just found this and tested it.

And the link for Malwarebytes just incase anyone wanted it although I don't personally use it.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/premium/?utm_source=subreddit&utm_medium=MB_sidebar

Why everyone doesn't do it is because it takes time so we just wait until it impacts performance and sort through everything all at once.

Check games before you buy them if you believe valve allows spyware into the game, the reviews likely will reflect that it is plain spyware. If you can find a steam hosted game that is embedded with spyware I would be very impressed because the only games I know of to be able to do that are launcher games where you download from the site directly.

If they become Epic exclusive I still have their single player games installed on my PC so I will just play it from there with no updates without conflict.

There are tons of programs but no one looks for them or acknowledges them. If spyware was as strong as people make it out to be we all would have it on our computers by this point.

[Visualvengeance]

Originally posted by Ozzey_Lee:

@Visualvengeance

There are hundreds of free programs to deal with Malware and the market is ever growing, the best free program I found was Malware bytes and that was within minutes of reading your reply. There are likely hundreds of paid programs that will do even better because they want your money and support. It is in fact that easy. There's even a site you can run links through to detect if the site has anything up with it.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/ I just found this and tested it.

And the link for Malwarebytes just incase anyone wanted it although I don't personally use it.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/premium/?utm_source=subreddit&utm_medium=MB_sidebar

Why everyone doesn't do it is because it takes time so we just wait until it impacts performance and sort through everything all at once.

Check games before you buy them if you believe valve allows spyware into the game, the reviews likely will reflect that it is plain spyware. If you can find a steam hosted game that is embedded with spyware I would be very impressed because the only games I know of to be able to do that are launcher games where you download from the site directly.

If they become Epic exclusive I still have their single player games installed on my PC so I will just play it from there with no updates without conflict.

There are tons of programs but no one looks for them or acknowledges them. If spyware was as strong as people make it out to be we all would have it on our computers by this point.

You're right there are hundreds of ''anti-malware'' programs out there and none of them are effective and as you said the paid ones just want your money and give you a false sense of security, as a matter of fact the program you recommend just got infected this week by SolarWinds, interesting articles out there I recommend them to you and others who like to give themselves a false sense of security. Reading up on malwarebytes it itself is spyware, collecting a huge amount of unnecessary stuff from your device.

People stop falling for these anti malware/adware/spyware programs, they're ineffective and in most cases just bloatware, just be smart and you won't need any of it.

https://youtu.be/osqF50XhJEg

Virus total the website is really nice however, I use it myself on a daily basis.

My friend if you wait until performance is affected at that point you're screwed and by figuring things out you mean reinstalling windows like normies then all the power to you.

As I said don't rely on Valve to gate keep their digital storefront, at this point even if they wanted to it would be really hard if not impossible to ''check'' every game released on Steam.

Yes asked me to name a known spyware, sadly I don't have the time to look specifically for spyware but I recommend the following games to you:

Abstractism - cryptocurrency miner and alien hunt there D another cryptocurrency miner. Three are just a few examples of malware which can make their way onto steam. Also steam lets devs bundle their games with external launchers.

I'll do the same, I'll buy the original don't starve on gog and back it up and at least I'll have that and I'll recommend everyone to do the same.