gunpowder dealt poop damage

[Jinnie]

So can someone clarify it for me, gunpowder damage scales with distance and it has a very small explosion radius?

Just I dropped 14 gunpowder under deerclops nose, it dealt 160 damage total I then shat myself and died.

[Katitoff]

Gunpowder DOES have a very small explosion radius.
No idea about any dmg dropoff.

[Retrolicious]

Gunpowder got nerfed few years ago so singleplayer people can't instantly kill raid bosses like bee queen or dragonfly with 1 stack of doom.

Read here:
https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Gunpowder

Originally posted by DST Wikipedia:

Giants and bosses from A New Reign gain resistance to explosive damage after receiving it for the first time. This resistance starts to fade after a few seconds, and completely fades after a total of 10 seconds after the initial explosion, meaning consecutive Gunpowder explosions that are less than 10 seconds apart deal less damage. The first explosion and any explosions that are more than 10 seconds apart still deal full damage, however.

Regardless of the nerf a stack of 14 gunpowder should certainly do more than 160 damage only, since FIRST gunpowder explosion already deals 200!
I think this is user error, you didn't sleep boss / and didn't put gunpowder as close as possible to boss location.

Gunpowder is high tech and is known for need "training" to learn its usage. It is a fiddely weapon this is why most people never use it cause "complicated" or "reasons". Most times its much easier to bumrush kill deerclops as wigfrid with battlespear + battle helmet + firepit against freeze.

If you want more tips this video might explain when to kite and when not to kite deerclops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-LokjPOWM

In case you wanna learn how to really use gunpowder search steamguides about correct usage with sleep / freeze strategy.

GL next time

[Jinnie]

Originally posted by 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈:

Gunpowder got nerfed few years ago so singleplayer people can't instantly kill raid bosses like bee queen or dragonfly with 1 stack of doom.

Read here:
https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Gunpowder

Originally posted by DST Wikipedia:

Giants and bosses from A New Reign gain resistance to explosive damage after receiving it for the first time. This resistance starts to fade after a few seconds, and completely fades after a total of 10 seconds after the initial explosion, meaning consecutive Gunpowder explosions that are less than 10 seconds apart deal less damage. The first explosion and any explosions that are more than 10 seconds apart still deal full damage, however.

Regardless of the nerf a stack of 14 gunpowder should certainly do more than 160 damage only, since FIRST gunpowder explosion already deals 200!
I think this is user error, you didn't sleep boss / and didn't put gunpowder as close as possible to boss location.

Gunpowder is high tech and is known for need "training" to learn its usage. It is a fiddely weapon this is why most people never use it cause "complicated" or "reasons". Most times its much easier to bumrush kill deerclops as wigfrid with battlespear + battle helmet + firepit against freeze.

If you want more tips this video might explain when to kite and when not to kite deerclops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-LokjPOWM

In case you wanna learn how to really use gunpowder search steamguides about correct usage with sleep / freeze strategy.

GL next time

Ty for the info and I figured that I put it way too far.

About the nerf though, I wonder does it count a stack of gunpowder as one explosion, or each gunpowder in a stack is considered a separate explosion?

Just if it actually counts each unit of gunpowder as a separate explosion it kind of makes it way less viable.

[Retrolicious]

Originally posted by the cat:

Originally posted by 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈:

Gunpowder got nerfed few years ago so singleplayer people can't instantly kill raid bosses like bee queen or dragonfly with 1 stack of doom.

Read here:
https://dontstarve.fandom.com/wiki/Gunpowder



Regardless of the nerf a stack of 14 gunpowder should certainly do more than 160 damage only, since FIRST gunpowder explosion already deals 200!
I think this is user error, you didn't sleep boss / and didn't put gunpowder as close as possible to boss location.

Gunpowder is high tech and is known for need "training" to learn its usage. It is a fiddely weapon this is why most people never use it cause "complicated" or "reasons". Most times its much easier to bumrush kill deerclops as wigfrid with battlespear + battle helmet + firepit against freeze.

If you want more tips this video might explain when to kite and when not to kite deerclops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-LokjPOWM

In case you wanna learn how to really use gunpowder search steamguides about correct usage with sleep / freeze strategy.

GL next time

Ty for the info and I figured that I put it way too far.

About the nerf though, I wonder does it count a stack of gunpowder as one explosion, or each gunpowder in a stack is considered a separate explosion?

Just if it actually counts each unit of gunpowder as a separate explosion it kind of makes it way less viable.

As a personal rule of thumb using gunpowder for lesser giants like Deerclops, Goose, Treeguard, Spider queen is a waste (unless you play very weak melee characters like wes or maxwell). Because getting a boost of 200 damage is not very significant and killing the boss on accident (because lesser giants have very low health) with gunpowder actually fries all drop (deerclops eye burns to ashes) and nullifies the approach.

To avoid the damage nerf you have to split up stacks and time your explosion with consecutive 10 second delays. So the damage resistance got a cool off.

Gunpowder might be especially good to fast kill antlion, since it drops rocks (which hopefully don't burn to ashes and it is an easy training target, since it never moves and can't dodge the explosion!

Gunpowder makes alot of sense when you are training with correct usage and want to "soften" up raid bosses like dragonfly, bee queen or toadstool though. But most people don't tinker alot with the gunpowder, since it needs some mastery to gain max benefit.

Just make a test server, turn on god mode, spawn in several different giant bosses and test / tinker gunpowder all day. After that trial you should get a feel when and how to use gunpowder correctly. There is no "easy" fool proof one button way on using it and one hit wonder kill to beat any boss. Bosses are there to be a challenge and require more than 1 minute to kill / fight off usually.

Again search steam guides / google any gunpowder guides.

GL

[Jinnie]

Originally posted by 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈:

As a personal rule of thumb using gunpowder for lesser giants like Deerclops, Goose, Treeguard, Spider queen is a waste (unless you play very weak melee characters like wes or maxwell). Because getting a boost of 200 damage is not very significant and killing the boss on accident (because lesser giants have very low health) with gunpowder actually fries all drop (deerclops eye burns to ashes) and nullifies the approach.

To avoid the damage nerf you have to split up stacks and time your explosion with consecutive 10 second delays. So the damage resistance got a cool off.

Gunpowder might be especially good to fast kill antlion, since it drops rocks (which hopefully don't burn to ashes and it is an easy training target, since it never moves and can't dodge the explosion!

Gunpowder makes alot of sense when you are training with correct usage and want to "soften" up raid bosses like dragonfly, bee queen or toadstool though. But most people don't tinker alot with the gunpowder, since it needs some mastery to gain max benefit.

Just make a test server, turn on god mode, spawn in several different giant bosses and test / tinker gunpowder all day. After that trial you should get a feel when and how to use gunpowder correctly. There is no "easy" fool proof one button way on using it and one hit wonder kill to beat any boss. Bosses are there to be a challenge and require more than 1 minute to kill / fight off usually.

Again search steam guides / google any gunpowder guides.

GL

I tested a bit and it seems that each gunpowder stack counts as one explosion, so you might (?) be able to deal 8k damage a pop, I'll test it a bit more, actually roaming about and trying stuff with no consequences is refreshing as I never did that in the past.

And as for gunpowder usage, I wanted to do it how I once did it in original don't starve, which is pop some gunpowder and finish off the giant safely, and I thought it was a nice idea since this time I was playing as Wendy.

Oh well, for now I'll try to switch to Wilson and learn the basics better.

[Retrolicious]

Originally posted by the cat:

Originally posted by 󰀀 Redhead 󰀈:

As a personal rule of thumb using gunpowder for lesser giants like Deerclops, Goose, Treeguard, Spider queen is a waste (unless you play very weak melee characters like wes or maxwell). Because getting a boost of 200 damage is not very significant and killing the boss on accident (because lesser giants have very low health) with gunpowder actually fries all drop (deerclops eye burns to ashes) and nullifies the approach.

To avoid the damage nerf you have to split up stacks and time your explosion with consecutive 10 second delays. So the damage resistance got a cool off.

Gunpowder might be especially good to fast kill antlion, since it drops rocks (which hopefully don't burn to ashes and it is an easy training target, since it never moves and can't dodge the explosion!

Gunpowder makes alot of sense when you are training with correct usage and want to "soften" up raid bosses like dragonfly, bee queen or toadstool though. But most people don't tinker alot with the gunpowder, since it needs some mastery to gain max benefit.

Just make a test server, turn on god mode, spawn in several different giant bosses and test / tinker gunpowder all day. After that trial you should get a feel when and how to use gunpowder correctly. There is no "easy" fool proof one button way on using it and one hit wonder kill to beat any boss. Bosses are there to be a challenge and require more than 1 minute to kill / fight off usually.

Again search steam guides / google any gunpowder guides.

GL

I tested a bit and it seems that each gunpowder stack counts as one explosion, so you might (?) be able to deal 8k damage a pop, I'll test it a bit more, actually roaming about and trying stuff with no consequences is refreshing as I never did that in the past.

And as for gunpowder usage, I wanted to do it how I once did it in original don't starve, which is pop some gunpowder and finish off the giant safely, and I thought it was a nice idea since this time I was playing as Wendy.

Oh well, for now I'll try to switch to Wilson and learn the basics better.

Using gunpowder as maxwell, wendy or wes is actually very smart, since wes & wendy melee dps is very low cause of the modifier & maxwell life is very low and might be dangerous to fight in melee with low armor.
But explosions can't be buffed nor nerfed in damage.

Anyway in general it is fun to tinker about with new raid bosses or such on a test server, learn them in your own pace, and once you feel ready you can speedrun / challenge them in a true 1 life death server file. Yeah just try get a stack of 40 gunpowder, download the boss HP mod:
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And see how much total damage it does it has to do less than 40 x 200 = 8000 , because of the recent cooldown nerf. Cause with 8k most bosses in DST would die surely. Since even Bearger only has 6k max health, but the nerf balances this out. To be sure you can always just use 10 gunpowder per any giant, to soften them up and finish them off with a hambat.

Keep on tinkering and training, the more you use gunpowder in all cray situation the more mastery you can especially with timing, sleeping , freezing and even setting up explosions with fire staff.

It is a fun topic to test for sure :D

I think with that recent nerf the gunpowder got maybe more realistic and you have to think more like a demolition man with fuse timer etc in case you like to roleplay abit xD